The "Nakba" Myth

Doctor Evil said:
I do occasionally read Israeli news sources, and still think that your previous post made no sense whatsoever.
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It is not my obligation to educate you. It is in your interest to educate yourself. I can only suggest you do so to the extent that IF]/b] I making it up you can address the invention rather than indulge in a mindless ad hominem post.

I post this solely in hopes of your own best interests,
 
Matt Giwer said:
This was called an Auto-de-Fey in the Spanish inquistion, the one made famous by Mel Brooks and Monty Python.

Yesterday my name was captioned New Blood. As you have seen that is not the same a Fresh Meat.

I direct your attention to the OP and suggest you try to stay on topic.

If you wish to start a discussion on the Shoah that is for you to do.
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Auto-da-fé.

The phrase is used most frequently in English in its alternative Portuguese form auto-da-fé. Auto de fé in medieval Spanish and auto da fé in Portuguese mean "act of faith".

In the popular imagination, "auto-da-fé" has come to refer to burning at the stake for heresy.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_de_fe
 
Matt Giwer said:
Being a newbie I have no idea what that means. Please explain.
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CT should be self-explanatory. Check out the forum topics. Would have taken you less time doing this than typing out the above.

Actually it is the burden of evidence not proof. I have no interest in derailing this thread. I came across it and immediately applied for membership so I could post and did so as soon as possible. As for everything at once I haven't posted a fraction of the material I have learned from impeccably Jewish and Israeli and Zionist sources. Facts and opinion of facts are quite different things.
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No. Its the burden of proof as in "is the obligation of a party on one side of a dispute or issue to provide sufficient evidence in support of their position" Pretty straightfoward.

If you came across this thread, you would easily come across the slew of other threads that specifically deal with this topics in question. So sorry if I don't believe that you have no interest of derailing. Its a simple concept not new to forum posting, which I assume you're aware of.

So I understand that on top of religious scripts not having any historical significance whatsoever, Jewish/Israeli/Zionist (since you've made no distinction) sources are mere opinion.

But I'm sure you can quote the impeccable Nizkor project website?

Also attacking the person rather than the material is the ad hominem attack which I would have assumed was beneath the intelligent if not the dignity of participants here. So why attack me personally instead of addressing what i have posted?
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I can assume you understand the concept of hypocrisy as well, do you not?

Would be nice if you could point out this ad hom rather than harping on about it.

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Palestinians who were driven out by Jewish terrorists. Why do you bring it up?
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This is the issue with this shock-and-awe of multiple derailments in one thread. You can't keep track of them. You brought up compensation when there was none, albeit, when I read back on the post of yours that touched up on this topic. It really doesn't make sense looking back on it.

The UN established the borders. Israel partially insists upon the UN determined line with Lebanon but denies it when everyone including Syria agrees the Sheeba Farms belong to Lebanon.
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You're right. Which was all rejected forthright by the Arab league and the Palestinian leadership at the time. Israel declared its independence and was invaded by 5 arab countries. This voided the partition plan (non-binding UN resolution I might add).

War and the state of belligerency that still exists between Israel and Syria, which thanks to Syria was instigated by Syria prior to any occupation of land. The unofficial annexation of the 5 square mile piece of land called the Sheeba farms should stay in Israel's hand for this reason. Or perhaps would you like to rewrite how the losers of a number of wars perpetuated by them puts them in a position to demand back anything at all?

I merely gave one but far from the only reason the US does not put more pressure on Israel to end the criminals and their squattertowns in occupied territories. Another reason is the braindead, redneck fundies who actually believe there was a biblical Israel, an Israel as described in the bible.
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Brunt aren't 'squattertowns' and do exist on purchased lands. Illegal outposts are routinely broken down by the IDF. Or perhaps would you like to explain how the voided armistice lines long given up by Jordan are somehow de facto borders of another soon to be established country of Palestine (as in first time existence, if this were to be the case).

Not getting baited into a biblical discussion. So another derail averted. You can keep trying though.

What do you want from me? Denial of the obvious?
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Less fiction...
 
Matt Giwer said:
It is not my obligation to educate you. It is in your interest to educate yourself. I can only suggest you do so to the extent that IF]/b] I making it up you can address the invention rather than indulge in a mindless ad hominem post.

I post this solely in hopes of your own best interests,
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To state that a post doesn't make sense is not classified as an ad hom. You've done this in several posts.
 
Is this the same Matt Giwer who used to sign all his posts with a reference to his website "Giwers World - Where All Kikes are Lampshades"?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Is this the same Matt Giwer who used to sign all his posts with a reference to his website "Giwers World - Where All Kikes are Lampshades"?
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Sounds like it. This, from that site:

Jews stole the land. The owners want it back. That is all you need to know about the conflict. That is all there is to know about the conflict.
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Sounds mightily familiar to the stuff on the last few pages.
 
Just gotta love this thread.....Nakba deniers V holcoaust deniers cage match.

more fun than watching WWE :)
 
Holocaust deniers hate Nakba deniers.

Nakba Deniers hate Holocaust deniers.

And the circle of futility...continues.
 
No one denies that the arab nations have been making the palestinians their chew toy for the past 60 years.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
No one denies that the arab nations have been making the palestinians their chew toy for the past 60 years.
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i think some lefists and Arab propagandists might deny this.

they will blame Israel not only for their exile and their inability to return or recieve compensation for their lost property, but they will surely also blame Israel for the Arab world's refusal to grant any of the refugees, even the 3rd generation, citizenship & many other basic rights.

its ALL Israel's fault, even when its really not.
 
Thunder said:
i think some lefists and Arab propagandists might deny this.

they will blame Israel not only for their exile and their inability to return or recieve compensation for their lost property, but they will surely also blame Israel for the Arab world's refusal to grant any of the refugees, even the 3rd generation, citizenship & many other basic rights.

its ALL Israel's fault, even when its really not.
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I wonder what Israel would do if The surrounding arab countries simply drove the palestinians out and then refused to take them, or any of thier decendants back. I guess they would give them all sorts of rights.....and give them citizenship..
 
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