The Freeman Movement and England

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conflating contradictory constructions confers consequent contemplative confusion.

conversely, consequences considered concentratively conceive concomitant contexts.






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Stacey Grove said:
Words such as contract, control, consequence, conformity etc etc are always written with the "con" in italics when John Harris writes a front page article for tpuc website. His followers really do believe that if it starts with "con", it is a con.
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Chili con queso is a delicious liberal media lie!

"Queso" translates roughly to "RFID tags"!
 
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My favorite take on the whole 'Con' issue is that if Pro and Con are opposites, then what is the opposite of Progress?
 
It'd be a bit of a worry if they didn't give consanguinuity due weight, though it might explain a few things.
 
Redtail said:
I'm not quite sure if this is freeman woo or not but it sounds damn close.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97393.0;topicseen

Wheeeee losing your house and gaining jail time!
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Can you copy & paste the relevant snippets? When I click on the link it wants me to log in, and I can't bring myself to register for PrisonPlanet. Although if FOTL woo is beginning to take over there, it might be worth it just to read the legions of AJ followers finding themselves in jail screaming "I DO NOT CONTRACT!" :)
 
LightinDarkness said:
Can you copy & paste the relevant snippets? When I click on the link it wants me to log in, and I can't bring myself to register for PrisonPlanet. Although if FOTL woo is beginning to take over there, it might be worth it just to read the legions of AJ followers finding themselves in jail screaming "I DO NOT CONTRACT!" :)
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Here's the OP...
hydrogenpal said:
Here is how to stop any FORCLOSER from moving on you and your home

Take any court files summons or notice of forcloser documents place a 2 cent stamp on the back bottom right corner sign across it in blue ink. flip it back over and sign your social # without dashes and print your all capital name at the top right corner in gold ink . do this on any and all documents turn them back in to the court. if the judges moves forward they will comment a felony as mail fraud.
Also Ask the judge "are you an administrative judge?" don’t not let them dance around the question. make them say yes or no.
When they say yes then say, " I am the beneficiary are we here to find the trustee?”
No matter what keep on it that you are the beneficiary and the judge if he will not appoint some one else becomes the trustee in which the dept he is to pay.
You created the funds so you are the beneficiary why are they trying to argue anything. Its yours.
Now get a certified copy of your deed of trust from your county recorder take the deed and strike out with one line through any locations one the deed that says “ County ” and just above it or below it TYPE in a lower case “ c ” on the word county in al locations.
Now re-fill it into the miscellanies side on the county recorder Get a copy form them. Send a Copy to the Original lender any new owners of the NOTE or servicer, a copy to court and all the lawyers that are involved. If in doubt send a copy.
These 3 things
1: making the judge say they are administrative judge corners them in jurisdiction so they cant jump around in jurisdictions and laws that would apply.
2: the 2 cent stamp process will stop them in there tracks.
3:Recording the deed with a lower case c and refilling it on misc. side takes it from public side and puts it into the private side. The land was never there’s to loan as it is owned by the state in the public and they fraudulently created a Debt on a piece of paper and tied it to you by a deed. This is fraud and they should Be contacted by The FBI and IRS for criminal charges and tax evasion. Sending every one copies lets them know that the land belongs to you and the have no right or claim on the land as the debt is paid in full based on trust account having been taped.
4: Ask mortgage company for a 1098 form it will say that you are the payer and they are recipient.
NOW order from IRS form 4506T and check box 8 to receive all 1099’s and 1098’s and you will see and have your evidence that they committed fraud by this document.
They “MORTGAGE COMPANY” claimed to the IRS that they are the they are payer and you are the recipient. This is a false claim and fraud and you can report them to the IRS department of criminal investigations through form 3949-A.
File these forms and everything above into the court and watch the whole thing fall apart.
€Blessings, Hydrogenpal€
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And a voice of reason...

nustada said:
I got a better idea.

Pay what you agreed to pay.
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He's quickly rebutted with...

lord edward coke said:
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Do you even know what a Federal reserve note is
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You cannot ' pay ' . You ' discharge the debt '.
look here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=63062.0

and here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=84651.msg517552#msg517552
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Hydrogenpal said:
Afederal reserve NOTE, is a promise to pay
A promise to pay is a debt.
If you pay a debt with a dept you have commited a felony.
So what is really going on there with that. lol
Can they put you in jail. YEP you commited a crime
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The rest of it is pretty much "thanks!" and "right on man" type replies.
 
Yep, its American-Style FOTL woo all right. Anyone trying this would find, as our FOTL woos across the pond in England have seen, that all this will result in is being held in contempt of court and then having the legal action occur anyways (in this case, the home being foreclosed on).

I love how they just make up legal theory as they go along, like by using a "c" instead of a "C" that you somehow mystically place your house deed in this magical legal ream of "the private" versus "the public" (which, as legal concepts, don't actually exist).

Its the same key FOTL concept: if you recite certain magical legal woo phrases and file the correct amount of frivolous documents which have no legal standing, the Powers That Be will simply give up and see that you no longer owe money for your debts.
 
LOL! And another voice of reason...

HYDROGENPAL,

While your methods, which I have read about before, sound reasonable, good luck with getting a judge to answer your silly question! Your likely to get thrown out of court. Why? Because regardless of what YOU believe, the court system believes otherwise, and therefore you can complain all you want while in jail for contempt.

Besides, you might try to use better sentence/paragraph structure so people can actually read what your typing. You'd be amazed at what double-spacing will do for readability!

Ultimately, if a person enters into an agreement, they should follow through, instead of looking for loopholes to shirk their responsibility to pay what they borrowed.

If you can't pay, you should give up the item you can't pay for!

But if a person insists that they got duped, which most have, what they should do is challenge the new servicer who is trying to collect on a mortgage they bought in bulk. It turns out that many of these mortgages that were sold in bundles of notes were never legally transfered ownership of the note, which means they cannot legally collect on that note they purchased. A Jacksonville legal services organization has had several foreclosure cases thrown out because the servicer could not show they legally took ownership of the note.

Your little plan will do nothing but piss off ALOT of officials and cause you more grief that you ever want. I HIGHLY recommend an attorney before anyone tries this.
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Rebutted with....
I appreciate your opinion yet you must understand that as long as it is a court of record the judge will do as you ask as long as you corner them by asking them that question then proceeding. The only way they would find you in contempt is if you had not ask this because they can make up rules laws and jump jurisdictions as they go because you never cornered them on the main issue this has been the missing link for years.
I am not saying to avoid any obligation my friend this process is to help keep people off the streets and out of tent cities.
Then go after them for fraud that’s all.
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And...

sounds like something an attorney looking for work would say.
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LightinDarkness said:
Yep, its American-Style FOTL woo all right. Anyone trying this would find, as our FOTL woos across the pond in England have seen, that all this will result in is being held in contempt of court and then having the legal action occur anyways (in this case, the home being foreclosed on).

I love how they just make up legal theory as they go along, like by using a "c" instead of a "C" that you somehow mystically place your house deed in this magical legal ream of "the private" versus "the public" (which, as legal concepts, don't actually exist).

Its the same key FOTL concept: if you recite certain magical legal woo phrases and file the correct amount of frivolous documents which have no legal standing, the Powers That Be will simply give up and see that you no longer owe money for your debts.
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And the second key concept is if the above fails, it is because you did not recite the magical phrases in EXACTLY the Right Way. If you do it Exactly Right, it will work.
That is what keeps the suckers coming back despite failure after failure.
 
dudalb said:
And the second key concept is if the above fails, it is because you did not recite the magical phrases in EXACTLY the Right Way. If you do it Exactly Right, it will work.
That is what keeps the suckers coming back despite failure after failure.
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Sounds just like casting a spell. You have to get the wording just right or you are in danger.

Problem is the spell isn't real but the danger of losing your car, home or freedom are.

So far I've seen them lose car and freedom surely one of them will hit the Trifecta.
 
tsig said:
Sounds just like casting a spell. You have to get the wording just right or you are in danger.

Problem is the spell isn't real but the danger of losing your car, home or freedom are.

So far I've seen them lose car and freedom surely one of them will hit the Trifecta.
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That's what happens when you try to use d4's in a d20 world. 25% chance of critical failure.
 
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