The Freeman Movement and England

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A recent girlgye post on the David Icke forum talking about her recent "successes" with FOTL woo (bolds are mine):

Yes Kev those have been my experiences. I've gone before two Circuit Judges regarding my Car. First one just clutched the statute legislation folder as though she was clutching a baby I was trying to kidnap. Simply didn't have a clue and they are still 'at it' today by trying to send robbers and kidnappers to my door daily. Though I'm giving 2 days grace and believe me that has totally lightened me up. All the Fee schedules and class action suit are ready to go. I'm here looking up Fed Ex as I missed the post.

In one court case he cited in documentation which he now refuses to give over that I disrupted proceedings by asking whether this was a house of god and given my learned friend some spiritual advice Now obviously that one got through. Then he jailed me on a minor dismeanor that does not warrant a 2 week custodial sentence.

The other Judge said this is not a court of philosopy it is a court of law. This was the best judge and knew what he was doing but we out witted him on his point. He too had to resort to quoting statutes at us. Nice try though. The thing to do is to study it til it is ingrained in your heart not to go in there to outwit them. If you go for the latter they will always outwit you.
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So..shes gone before not one, but two judges on this and it just couldn't possibly be that shes citing fake legal principles which don't exist, its just that the judges are stupid and don't know the law. And they keep sending what I assume is some sort of bailiff ("robbers and kidnappers) to drag her to court. And she thinks she'll be able to "sue them all!" for impounding her car since she as a Free(women?) on the Land is exempt from such nuisances and licenses and registration.

Shes spent no doubt hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in court, in jail, and filing FOTL documents that have no legal merit in order to prove the point that she can drive wherever she wants without obeying the laws on licenses. Yet shes makes fun of us stupid sheep who follow the law and spend a few hours every few years applying for a license and around $75 in assorted fees to drive.

I tell you what, being a Freeman-On-The-Land sure is a lot of work over being a sheeple! Isn't interesting that, although FOTL woo says statutes have no power over Freeman, they continue to be applied to them no matter how many frivolous legal documents they file?
 
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I'm still trying to find the thread where one member read that the EU passed a ruling that something like "Stop and Search" was illegal* and the UK Gov basically said "We'll consider our response but until then we'll carry on doing it" SO this FOTL decided that if you went to court and were found guilty and sentanced all you had to do was say "OK i'll consider your ruling for a while" and until you consented to the judgement you'd be free to go....






* Sorry but i really don't remember what it as.
 
I genuinely feel sorry for the people caught up in this nonsense and also for the judges that have to deal with them. Pity the judges can't force a defendant to undergo psychiatric treatment - some of defendants seem to have become truly delusional and irrational, to such an extent that they are harming themselves.
 
Girlgye is English, isn't she? (OK, she resides in England as far as I can tell. I suppose she wouldn't acknowledge herself as "English".)

She'll be spending pounds. I wonder how many?

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Girlgye is English, isn't she?
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Apparently she is from the Liverpool area. She has had her car taken from her and crushed, and it is believed she had three succesful businesses before she got involved in this stuff. She was sent to Styal prison recently for contempt. It appears she took a recording device into the courtroom.
But if anything her experience has confirmed her belief that the FOTL woo is correct.
 
Girlgye I feel is being used by the numpties on Ickes as anyone else who posts the way she does and abuses ne members would be instantly banned.

I have had two temp bans for far less than the garbage she spews.
I offered £100,000 to anyone who could access my bond and it had more hits in a week than Menards postings had in months and they say their not in it for the money:rolleyes:

Even Menard wouldnt take up my offer even though he sells a package on how to do it:D

JB
 
dudalb said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Freeman movement.

I got a feeling his leaving the Masons was done about one minute before he was kicked out.
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I've actually heard of this guy previously. When I looked into it at the time, from what I can recall he knew he was about to be brought up on a laundry list of charges and his chances of being found innocent through the masonic justice system were 0. He decided to leave before being unceremoniously booted, which seems to happen quite often.

Freemasonry's internal justice system prides itself on due process, so its generally very fair..he just didn't happen to have a defense.
 
I have some "Titles of Nobility" myself in the SCA (A Medieval Reenactment group..and I know other JREFERS are also members) but we don't pretend we have "real" titles.
 
Watch what happens when the FOTLers apply their inability to understand that words have different meanings in different context with words outside the law:

CONdom first bit CON MEANS CON dick head. there is more people alive today than in the past 12000 years and would happen with or with out CONdoms and over half the world dont not wear them so how do you come up with the fact that they prevent any thing! so would you say a CONdom is insurance like the pill smoke and mirrors oh and dont say the nhs why there are so many people around today because that is just silly. step out of the box to see the workings. then say if insurance is nesseary.
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Apparently because "condom" has the word CON in it, it must mean that wearing condoms will not dramatically reduce pregnancy! :D So don't worry guys..just tell your girl next time that its all a CON and throw that CONdom away! They don't prevent a thing!

FOTL woos - first they were legal experts, now experts on medicine. What next?
 
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Apparently because "condom" has the word CON in it, it must mean that wearing condoms will not dramatically reduce pregnancy! :D So don't worry guys..just tell your girl next time that its all a CON and throw that CONdom away! They don't prevent a thing!

FOTL woos - first they were legal experts, now experts on medicine. What next?
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I think, uuummmm,,, "fathers"

Norm
 
LightinDarkness said:
Apparently because "condom" has the word CON in it, it must mean that wearing condoms will not dramatically reduce pregnancy!
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Words such as contract, control, consequence, conformity etc etc are always written with the "con" in italics when John Harris writes a front page article for tpuc website. His followers really do believe that if it starts with "con", it is a con.
 
Stacey Grove said:
Words such as contract, control, consequence, conformity etc etc are always written with the "con" in italics when John Harris writes a front page article for tpuc website. His followers really do believe that if it starts with "con", it is a con.
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So on this one idea, they have a consensus?
 
The connotations of this conceit seem to be confounding them. If only they would concede defeat, but that's not really conceivable.
 
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