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He appears to be dodging that one. He will no doubt find another conspiracy fish to fry. Look out anyone who tells him his cooking is rubbish....
 
Census fun in South Africa

I wasn't sure where to post this, but considering SA is a former colony, I thought it would fit in here.

South Africa has a census coming up, and there is a local bunch/person, the Johan Joubert Community, who are sending out the following mail:
Dear XXX <friend's name removed>


This is an approach that you could try for the upcoming Census. We can't comment on the legal ramifications of doing this and, as always, we suggest that you handle yourself with care, but it's certainly very interesting!
--The JJC
How to Avoid the Census​

  1. Complete, print and sign this letter.
  2. Give it to the Census worker when they arrive. Always be polite. They will probably threaten you if you don't comply.
  3. This approach is called "conditional acceptance." You are agreeing in principle to do what you are told, but first you have a couple of questions that need to be answered. Of course they cannot answer these questions because to do so would be to reveal a betrayal of human rights.
  4. If you wish, send this through to the Census authority first. Give them 7 days to reply and amend this letter accordingly depending on their response.

Dear Census Official,
My name is [first name in lowercase, eg. John] of the family [surname in lowercase, eg. Smith]. I am a living, breathing sentient human being.
My research has led me to conclude that when my birth was registered, a corporate entity was created. This corporate entity is referred to as [write your title and whole name in all uppercase, eg. MR JOHN RONAN SMITH] with account number [insert your ID number] and is distinct from me, the flesh and blood human being.
It is my understanding that my title, full name and ID Number represent a juristic person / corporation, and the record of this account is held at the South African Reserve bank using a master / slave computer software system.
I have also discovered that my birth certificate is evidence of a financial instrument with a very real commercial value. This commercial value predicted by the amount of money I would earn as I grew up. Thus, it provides collateral for the South African government to float loans at interest without my knowledge or direct consent.
If this holds true, then it stands to reason that a primary role of this Census is to re-evaluate my status as chattel property so that the South African Government can literally “sell” me and my fellow citizens to foreign bankers, as the governments of Iceland, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and others did to their own people.
My research indicates that the purpose of the first census in 1904 was to give names to indigenous people so that they could be granted rights by the existing government. However, in order to be granted rights, it makes logical sense that one would first have to be stripped of the natural rights that he or she was born with. After all, you cannot grant rights to someone who already has them by the mere fact that they are alive.
As I believe in full disclosure, I will therefore only take part in the Census if the following questions have been satisfactorily answered.

  1. Do I have a juristic person?
  2. Is there an account in my name linked to my ID number held at the Reserve Bank, or any other government department?
  3. Is there a bond or security registered in my name with a corresponding CUSIP number?
  4. Does the South African government receive loans based the ability of its people (ie. me) to pay it back?
  5. If yes, then:
    1. How does the government calculate the value of its people?
    2. How does the government connect me to the money that they have borrowed on my behalf?
    3. Does this loan include interest? If it does, then where is the interest supposed to come from in order to pay back these loans?
    4. Are any of the loans granted to the South African government created “out of thin air” using a book-keeping entry, or are 100% of all loans made using real, lawful money?
  6. Is the data collected from the Census linked in any way to the granting of loans made by our government?
  7. Is the census a form of contract? If so, please provide me with the terms and conditions of this contract.
  8. Am I a flesh and blood human being born with natural human rights, or am I a slave with no rights whatsoever, except for those which are granted to me by the South African Government?
Please note that I am intelligent enough to know when my questions are being avoided. I will only accept real, valid and direct answers to my questions above.
Once I have received a suitable response, I will happily take part in your Census.
Yours Faithfully,
[first name in lowercase, eg. John] of the family [surname in lowercase, eg. Smith]
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Some comments:

1. I love the way it states "we can't comment on the legal ramifications if this". Doesn't this imply they accept there may be legal ramifications?

2. "...the record of this account is held at the South African Reserve bank using a master / slave computer software system". WTF is that? I suspect they are hinting at a submissive scenario, bringing up slavery as a button to push.

3. I have never heard of ID numbers being linked to the Reserve Bank.

I could go on...

I've been following the FMOTL threads off and on, but I have not yet seen a concise explanation of the FMOTL theory. Can anybody point me to something suitable that I can send to my friend to steer her away from this? The search function is not doing it for me :mad:.

Thanks in advance,

EB.

Edit: NVM, I found a fairly good response here.
 
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EvilBiker said:
2. "...the record of this account is held at the South African Reserve bank using a master / slave computer software system". WTF is that? I suspect they are hinting at a submissive scenario, bringing up slavery as a button to push.
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I suspect they're applying greater significance to certain computer terminology than is warranted. A Server/Client configuration for networked computers is sometimes referred to as a Master/Slave configuration. So of course they leap on this to suggest that these computers are used to keep track of actual slaves.


As for their questions, any bets on whether a series of "No" answers would be accepted as "satisfactorily answered", or "real, valid and direct"?
 
I just discovered that I am part of teh eevil gubmint NWO, one of my hard drives is set to slave...









Could someone from HQ please send me a couple of minions, I have a lot of housework that needs doing.
 
As for their questions, any bets on whether a series of "No" answers would be accepted as "satisfactorily answered", or "real, valid and direct"?
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Another thing I find strange about FOTLers, is there bizarre take on burden of proof, I used to debate with a guy called jackieg on WFS, his take on things goes like this;
jackie makes a wild unsubstantiate claim without a shred of evidence.
He then believes if no one rebuts his claim by providing evidence to the contrary it stands as true?????

So by jackies argument unicorns exist.
as i said, bizarre.
 
jargon buster said:
I used to debate with a guy called jackieg on WFS, his take on things goes like this;
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Here's one of jackieg's posts on Icke's:

If I or anyone else make an unproven assumption and you do not offer evidence rebutting the claim then, the assumption, in absence of evidence to the contrary, is deemed to be admitted.
It stands as accepted fact.
Did you get that?
Or, do you need some help with that?
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So according to jackieg even an assumption that is not rebutted stands as fact.
He is a total fruitcake.
 
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I was thinking it'd be fun to stage an anti FMOTL 'Conference' in London at some point before x-mas. Any takers?
 
Especially said:
My first major thread here. Greetings from London, England !

There are a number of things you might care to know about the UK these days. And they are all quite serious. First is the fact that our government (so-called) are a bunch of hypocrites, paid stooges of the globalist 'New World Order' and that our national sovereignty is only a few months away from being surrendered to the European Union.
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I'll stop you there :D the USA is a far greater "threat" to the UKs Sovereignty.
 
cocana said:
Might be fun to remove the mask if it fits the diary
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You can't miss it :D

I'm already working on a keynote speaker. I've sent Ronald Dworkin an email inviting him to give a presentation on 'Menardian Consentism' & I myself am working on a talk entitled 'Gurus, Moderators & Morons - the anthropology of Freemen'
 
Ooo...can you ask Rawls to come and give a talk on The Veil of Ignoramuses: A Theory of FOTL Justice?
 
Bad Lieutenant said:
I'll stop you there :D the USA is a far greater "threat" to the UKs Sovereignty.
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Those months were two years ago and we have a completely different government, not any better mind you but a different one so a prophet Especially wasn't.
 
Garrison said:
Those months were two years ago and we have a completely different government, not any better mind you but a different one so a prophet Especially wasn't.
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Yes I didn't realise what a mind bogglingly gargantuan thread this was 'til after I posted. Tory government = threat to UK sovereignty from the USA; labour government = threat to UK sovereignty from the EU. Check.
 
I'm prepared to let Yozhik have a stall outside signing autographed dictionaries. I'm sure he'll be a big draw and rake it in.
 
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