The Freeman Movement and England

[jsfisher]

Many of the posts have no content other than a single link.

Fixed if for you.

 

[grndslm]

Why, thank you all...

The sub-forums are fine as they are. The users are coming, slowly but surely.

The information is coming as well. And it's pretty packed, if you ask me, for only being 10 days old.

Just need to get the google crawlies on my webs.

This forum was one of the first that came up when searching for Freemen Forums, or something like that. Go figure.

Love, Peace, & hair Grease.

 

[grndslm]

Here's your link

freemen.freeforums.org

Thanks!!

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ETA: If you have the host's ear you may want to suggest that the definitions section actually include definitions.

freemen.freeforums.org/words-terms-defined-f30.html

Nothing is gained by defining lawful as: " 'Lawful' is what it is all about. 'Lawful' .vs. 'unlawful'. Do not get trapped into discussing 'legal'/'illegal'."

I completely agree! Words & Terms was a very big thread on our old forum, so I figured it deserved a forum of its own, considering Law is nothing more than people using words as power over other people. Very, very important for someone like myself who spent most of school in math & science classes.

Oh, and:

freemen.freeforums.org/pros-cons-of-trademarking-my-name-t83.html

Trademarking doesn't work like that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_trademark_law

So, in the example you use, "Sarah Palin", she might be able to trademark her name, because she's using it to market actual products - books, personal appearances, Shooting expeditions in the Alaskan Wilderness, whatever. You would only be able to do the same if you're using you name in some sort of similar capacity - and intend to keep on doing that.

Yes, trademarking does work like that. How hard is it for you to form a corporation with your legal name??

Perhaps some Smiths and Joneses can't trademark their names, but mine is unique enough that there would be absolutely no issue.

Heck... pick any name that you want. You're not stuck with the one that your parents gave you.

 

[zooterkin]

Total posts 218 • Total topics 106 • Total members 23


Number of sub-fora, excluding admin ones like "Terms of Use": 23.



Just a friendly suggestion: less is more, when you have an average of just over 2 posts/topic, and about 5 topics/forum.

Not to mention one sub-forum per member!

 

[jargon buster]

Is it worth me signing up on your site grndslm?
Are you and your freemen up to the challenge , or will it be another instant ban?

 

[grndslm]

Give it another 10 days, and I'm sure I'll have at least 2x as many users and 4x the posts.

Is it worth me signing up on your site grndslm?
Are you and your freemen up to the challenge , or will it be another instant ban?

I'm currently letting the Mexican keep his "real patriot act" thread where we call the local "authorities" on the zionist jews. I might warn him that I'll delete his thread if he doesn't come back and play.

The Truth is somewhere in the middle, and my middle name is Challenge. So bring it ON!



Our old site had no admin/mods around, so there were a few trolls that we had to run away on our own. I kinda liked that Spirit of brains over brawn, so I'll be keeping that Spirit alive.

 

[jargon buster]

The Truth is somewhere in the middle, and my middle name is Challenge. So bring it ON!

Are you sure now?
Menards WFS couldnt handle it, Ickes couldnt handle it, TPUC couldnt handle it, Freeman Ireland etc,etc
Are you sure you are different from these?

By the way, define "troll"

 

[jargon buster]

H2pogo on Ickes wrote
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059680878&postcount=6

I have been self employed most my life and one time i did register so my partner could continue to get her tax credits i started to get loads of nasty forms and threats..

If you are not registered its like you legally don't exist.
And it true to say you don't contract or have any business with them..

So he feels its OK to contract when he can take from the system but not obligated to contract when the money goes the other way.

No wonder they get the tag "freeloader on the land"

 

[Horatius]

Yes, trademarking does work like that. How hard is it for you to form a corporation with your legal name??

Perhaps some Smiths and Joneses can't trademark their names, but mine is unique enough that there would be absolutely no issue.

Heck... pick any name that you want. You're not stuck with the one that your parents gave you.

It's not enough to "form a corporation", you have to actually be using the name in commerce in order to qualify for trademark protection. It's a fundamental requirement.

What goods or services are you offering under your name?

What goods and services would any Random Freeman be offering under their name?

And how would a cop using your name constitute an infringement of that trademark?

How to Trademark a Name

Anyone whose name also identifies a business or profession should consider trademarking their actual name. If you are considering establishing a trademark for your name, you should first perform a trademark search with LegalZoom or by going to the US Patent and Trademark Office's (USPTO) website at www.uspto.gov, to determine if it is claimed as a mark by someone else. The USPTO reviews trademark applications and determines whether an applicant meets the requirements for federal registration.

The term use in commerce refers to the bona fide use of a trademark or service mark in either interstate or foreign commerce in the ordinary course of trade. The Lanham Act (U.S. trademark law) provides that:
“ a mark shall be deemed to be in "use in commerce" —

(1) on goods when —

(A) it is placed in any manner on the goods or their containers or the displays associated therewith or on the tags or labels affixed thereto, or if the nature of the goods makes such placement impracticable, then on documents associated with the goods or their sale, and
(B) the goods are sold or transported in commerce, and

(2) on services when it is used or displayed in the sale or advertising of services and the services are rendered in commerce, or the services are rendered in more than one State or in the United States and a foreign country and the person rendering the services is engaged in commerce in connection with the services.”[2]

 

[jargon buster]

He may switch to "copyright" now, they normally do when you point out the flaws in the trademark theory.

 

[gtm]

Freemen.Freeforums.org

A Forum for Freemen who understand the "Systems" of Law and Money

In my experience freemen have very little 'understanding' of law & money systems. Nonetheless, it's to your credit that you've taken the trouble to vist the 'wrecking crew' here at the JREF Forum. Most Freemen don't last to long.

 

[Horatius]

He may switch to "copyright" now, they normally do when you point out the flaws in the trademark theory.

Thing is, some of these guys probably could trademark their names, as "Selling crap to stupid people" is (sort of) a legitimate business. The problem arises when they suggest it as a solution for everybody, ignoring the "use in commerce" requirement.

Oh, and then thinking that having a trademark means you can sue anyone who even says your name for "infringement".

http://freemen.freeforums.org/pros-cons-of-trademarking-my-name-t83.html#p145

If a cop asks for my name, I can honestly say, "I own that, I have trademarked it, and I DO NOT give you permission to use my name in anyway"....

That seems like it nips a lot of statutory citations in the bud. Does it not?

Trademark infringement is a violation of the exclusive rights attaching to a trademark without the authorization of the trademark owner or any licensees (provided that such authorization was within the scope of the license). Infringement may occur when one party, the "infringer", uses a trademark which is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark owned by another party, in relation to products or services which are identical or similar to the products or services which the registration covers.

So, what "products or services which are identical or similar to the products or services which the registration covers" is the cop offering in the above example?

Stupid on so many levels.

 

[jargon buster]

Im going to sign up later and upset the applecart.

 

[Horatius]

Im going to sign up later and upset the applecart.

"You just got Jargon Busted(tm)!"

 

[Toke]

Im going to sign up later and upset the applecart.

I wonder how long before you are banned.
Their fantacy world does not welcome injections of reality.

 

[Ladewig]

I completely agree! Words & Terms was a very big thread on our old forum, so I figured it deserved a forum of its own, considering Law is nothing more than people using words as power over other people. Very, very important for someone like myself who spent most of school in math & science classes.

Speaking of lawful and legal, I couldn't find anything on your site about Admiralty Law. Do you have any opinion or information about Admiralty Law in general and about gold-fringed flags in particular?

 

[tsig]

Im going to sign up later and upset the applecart.

You might ask where this came from:

In fact the label "Sovereign" means nothing more than a higher form of slave within the system controlled by the Venetian Slavemasters, with its original latin components being:
solus : alone, only, the only.
vere : truly, really, actually, rightly.
rex regis : king
ignis : (of) fire.
ignarus -(of the) ignorant.


Since it disagrees with this.


late 13c., from O.Fr. soverain, from V.L. *superanus "chief, principal," from L. super "over" (see super-). Spelling influenced by folk-etymology association with reign. Milton spelled it sovran, as though from It. sovrano. Meaning "gold coin worth 22s 6d" first recorded late 15c.; value changed 1817 to 1 pound. As an adj., attested from early 14c.; of remedies or medicines, "potent in a high degree," from late 14c.

 

[jeffwode]

Just joined the forum to say thanks to everybody who contributed to this epic thread. I spent a large part of my weekend reading through it with a mixture of amusement and horror. It really is a whole new world of insanity.

As I don't think it's been mentioned so far, Freeman Mark Bond made a video last week in which he was looking noticeably less cocksure after CID told him to expect a knock on his door due to his FOTL antics appearing on Youtube. That may have now arrived as he has removed all his vids in the last few hours.

Then there is the case of Freeman Ben Lowrey (see 'Ben Lowrey arrested for travelling' and follow-up vids on YT). This hapless dupe appears to have undergone a particularly severe case of brainwashing. In true FOTL fashion, he was arrested - sorry, 'kidnapped' - for a string of motoring offences he didn't consent to while driving on the roads he doesn't consent to paying for. The arrest videos are particularly amusing. The cheerful rozzers immediately spot the flaws in the FOTL philosophy and find Lowrey's claims to not be a UK citizen inconsistent with his Pop Larkin accent. Inevitably, the FOTL threatens to "activate his fee schedule" for wasting his valuable time shortly being clapped in irons.

 

[Ladewig]

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[gtm]

You might ask where this came from:

In fact the label "Sovereign" means nothing more than a higher form of slave within the system controlled by the Venetian Slavemasters, with its original latin components being:
solus : alone, only, the only.
vere : truly, really, actually, rightly.
rex regis : king
ignis : (of) fire.
ignarus -(of the) ignorant.


Since it disagrees with this.


late 13c., from O.Fr. soverain, from V.L. *superanus "chief, principal," from L. super "over" (see super-). Spelling influenced by folk-etymology association with reign. Milton spelled it sovran, as though from It. sovrano. Meaning "gold coin worth 22s 6d" first recorded late 15c.; value changed 1817 to 1 pound. As an adj., attested from early 14c.; of remedies or medicines, "potent in a high degree," from late 14c.

Venetian slave masters? That rings alarm bells & has to be UCADIA. The mainstream FMOTL'ers probably don't know where Venice is (they probably think it's a kind of Pizza)

Just joined the forum to say thanks to everybody who contributed to this epic thread. I spent a large part of my weekend reading through it with a mixture of amusement and horror. It really is a whole new world of insanity.

As I don't think it's been mentioned so far, Freeman Mark Bond made a video last week in which he was looking noticeably less cocksure after CID told him to expect a knock on his door due to his FOTL antics appearing on Youtube. That may have now arrived as he has removed all his vids in the last few hours.

Then there is the case of Freeman Ben Lowrey (see 'Ben Lowrey arrested for travelling' and follow-up vids on YT). This hapless dupe appears to have undergone a particularly severe case of brainwashing. In true FOTL fashion, he was arrested - sorry, 'kidnapped' - for a string of motoring offences he didn't consent to while driving on the roads he doesn't consent to paying for. The arrest videos are particularly amusing. The cheerful rozzers immediately spot the flaws in the FOTL philosophy and find Lowrey's claims to not be a UK citizen inconsistent with his Pop Larkin accent. Inevitably, the FOTL threatens to "activate his fee schedule" for wasting his valuable time shortly being clapped in irons.

Welcome Jeff,

We've followed the Bond case closely. He started a thread about the impending 'feeling of his collar' on the Icke forum. He is thinking about dropping FMOTL.