The Freeman Movement and England

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Never mind the "structure, grammar, and spelling", what about the content?

For a start:


He's talking about a strict liability offence here. Mens rea doesn't come into it.

Ah, but mens rea is rooted in common law, so by their lights, it has to be present - because they are only under common law jurisdiction. They don't recognize strict liability - unlawful, you see?

Except mens rea comes from the actual, real common law tradition, not the made-up FOTL version.

It's all such a jumbled mess.
 
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Its actively encouraged D'rok
Tigereyes (moderator) and her partner deadbeatdad (I kid you not) have their own website
http://www.deadbeatdadsassociation.co.uk/

Its a disgrace

asky/JB


I enjoyed the first paragraph on the page that's supposed to support their position:


What we all need to be made aware of is the fact the world is controlled by banks, there are six major banks, soon to merge into one, they are wanting Great Britain to be destroyed as a country, we are not talking blown up destroyed we are talking human rights eroded away, constitutional rights eroded away, democracy destroyed and freedom of speech to be made a thing of the past, in other words they want to control us. They have also realised that this country is becoming over populated, there is not enough money to keep us all going. To compensate for that they need to reduce the population, in comes Common Purpose with their graduates in the NHS, develop a man- made bug or virus to kill off old people or to kill off people who visit hospitals or are patients in hospitals, in comes MRSA, Bring in Common Purpose graduates in the media, lets start printing stories about hospitals being unclean which is where the MRSA bug comes in, they use this a s a smoke screen for the man made virus.


They don't take half measures on crazy over there.
 
Just seen this gem
http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13407
Hi freedomordeath, sorry just read your post.
I have had 4 parking tickets in total - don't ask me how 'cause I do actually tend to keep well clear of any area that could bring one of those - I just seem to be a magnate...!!
Anyway , 2 discharged successfully -using that templates on FMOTL and just continually insisting and not contracting.
1 has been sold to a debt collectors - they have been discharged - 3 weeks ago, and no sign yet.
the last is a pain in the bum and is at the moment at a head to head with Baliffs. I have sold everything to a friend, so really they're ****ed . I sent them a last request for a bill a couple of weeks ago.
So, clear 50% success, the other 2 pending...
hope this helps,
sam x
By his/her own admission "I have sold everything to a friend, so really they're ****ed.

So for 4 parking tickets they have absolutly nothing left in the world.
And they think the baliffs are ****ed :)

asky/JB

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Just seen this gem
http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13407
Hi freedomordeath, sorry just read your post.
I have had 4 parking tickets in total - don't ask me how 'cause I do actually tend to keep well clear of any area that could bring one of those - I just seem to be a magnate...!!
Anyway , 2 discharged successfully -using that templates on FMOTL and just continually insisting and not contracting.
1 has been sold to a debt collectors - they have been discharged - 3 weeks ago, and no sign yet.
the last is a pain in the bum and is at the moment at a head to head with Baliffs. I have sold everything to a friend, so really they're ****ed . I sent them a last request for a bill a couple of weeks ago.
So, clear 50% success, the other 2 pending...
hope this helps,
sam x
By his/her own admission "I have sold everything to a friend, so really they're ****ed.

So for 4 parking tickets they have absolutly nothing left in the world.
And they think the baliffs are ****ed :)

asky/JB

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Removed breaches of Rule 10. Please read the Membership Agreement and this explanatory note. Do not swear in your posts. This includes using swear words in a disguised form, for example, by replacing certain letters in the word with another letter, character, or image.
I wonder if they really think they're the first to come up with this clever dodge of selling everything they own to a trusted friend.
Gee, I bet no court in the world has ever seen that before. They'll be completely flummoxed. Nope, there's absolutely no chance of he or his friend spending a few nights in jail for contempt of court.
 
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Suspended until the 21st April.
I exposed the Moderator merlincove as a ****wit so he jumped on a post and he banned me.
Alledged abuse of forum

asky/JB

I don't have much of an experience with other FOTL sites, although from what I can tell they all seem to be like this, but the DI forum is not going to be allowing dissenting opinion for to much longer. The resident kooks are rather hysterical at the moment at all the debunking going on and merlincove every few days goes around and "warns" any dissenters for anything she can think of, even if it doesn't actually break a forum rule. Her goal is to simply make up enough small warnings to add up to a ban in hopes that the site owners won't look into it.

It isn't surprising, this is what happens when you give moderation powers to the kool aid drinkers - I'm just surprised its taken this long for merlincove to go after you.
 
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Oh, dear FSM. This thread is very, very sad: http://tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13358&sid=ef0c591feba545a69479876718eaca9f

Over a simple speeding ticket, a poor sap is on the road to losing his license and his car, and someone is advising him to don body armor and go arrest the magistrate.

This will not end well.

That thread is an absolute shining example of FOTL lunacy. In addition to people telling the guy to go arrest the magistrate (who admits to driving way over the speed limit and doing all appropriate FOTL rituals when caught), there is also someone telling him to order the Bank of England to pay the fine for him since they just "create money."

All FOTL ever seems to do is take someone who gets in trouble with the law and leave them in a much, much worse position than if they had simply paid the fine/been respectful to the judge/etc. When you think how much time this guy is wasting filing all these frivolous legal documents that have NO legal merit (Notice of Understanding, etc.) - he would have spent much less time and by simply hiring a real lawyer and getting it reduced in a legitimate fashion.
 
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A poor moron indeed. In reading all this FOTL I'm struck not only by their naive stupidity but a question comes to mind. Despite all the 'magic words and phrases' aren't they really just in rebellion against the established government-at a very low level?

Isn't denying the sway of the government and trying to set up an alternative 'way' just a revolt?
 
Presentation: Reclaiming your Sovereign Citizenship


YouTube Video
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Presentation: Reclaiming your Sovereign Citizenship

Again, I am not watching any more rubbish Youtube videos from someone who hasn't got the junk to stay around and defend them. Reported again as spam -- either make the effort to back up your position or leave.
 
Why do you always feel like I'm talking to you, remirol? This post is for those - and only those - who are interested and care to watch it.

Is it unrelated to the subject of this thread? NO. Is it repeadingly posted? NO.

So how can it be spam Einstein? Again, go to Wiki and educate yourself. The link has been provided before.
 
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Why do you always feel like I'm talking to you, remirol? This post is for those - and only those - who are interested and care to watch it.

Is it unrelated to the subject of this thread? NO. Is it repeadingly posted? NO.

Repeatedly posting Youtube links while making no effort to discuss the contents is spam, even if the links are different. Welcome to reality.

I don't care if you're talking to me -- I'm talking to you. If you don't have the cojones to back up your assertions... which it seems most FOTLers don't, and not surprising since they don't have a leg to stand on... then you can be expected to be treated with the same disregard and disrespect as the man on the sidewalk wearing a sandwich board saying 'The World Will End in 7 Days'. If you are interested in discussing the contents of any links you post, feel free to add text to your posts which include the point you're attempting to make, and we can talk about whether the video supports that point or not. Unfortunately for you, your first two videos didn't support your point at all. Perhaps later ones could, but if you think that spamming links and refusing to discuss the content is a way to get around having to back up your case, you have another think coming. :rolleyes:

If it helps any, just consider my posts to be cautionary advertising for other posters in this thread: "Warning: This person is not capable of discussing the issues involved and is simply trying to spam FOTL links on as many sites as possible."
 
tobjai,
Posting a video link without any comment or explanation will not get you far on this forum.

I may watch it if it is from a poster I know to make sense and give relevant links, you are not one of those.
 
That thread is an absolute shining example of FOTL lunacy. In addition to people telling the guy to go arrest the magistrate (who admits to driving way over the speed limit and doing all appropriate FOTL rituals when caught), there is also someone telling him to order the Bank of England to pay the fine for him since they just "create money."

But, still this particular motorist is convinced that this stuff works.
He has just posted:
For example if I wrote a affidavit to represent the person in this, would that be admerality/blue? or a private side affidavit with no public/person reference would be signed in red?...........

I figure blue means the person and the man, red means the man and black means the dead/ficton?
 
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