The End Of The World

[Ethnikos]

Link please.....I would like to see it.

When you google all those names, you get a J.W. web site.

 

[dafydd]

What happened to the end of the world? Should I cancel my holiday plans for next year?

 

[Marduk]

Oh, c'mon! Gilgamesh! What about the Babylonian Atrahasis Epic? Its older. Gilgamesh, originally discovered on a cuneiform from the library of Ashurbanipal in Nineveh who reigned from 668 - 627 B.C.E. from earlier sources. Now you ask the skeptic to figure out the time and they will put the Bible writing way ahead and Gilgamesh way behind. .

ok lets ask a sceptic
Marduk you're quite knowledgable in these things, whats your opinion

"well. he's doing that ignoring the evidence that doesn't fit his belief, like he did earlier when he refused to acknowledge that hebrew didn't exist in 1500bce
true, the first copy was found in the library of Ashurbanipal, and he did live between 668 - 627 B.C.E, but as with any library, its stock does not post date its existence. The tablets in that case dated to 1300bce, and were signed by the author,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin-liqe-unninni
which is a few hundred years before the existence of judaism, since then older examples have been found pushing the epic back to 2100bce,
So its a bit laughable to claim that a group which didn't exist wrote one earlier. There is a hebrew connection though, the librarians at the library were all semitic slaves who were tasked with translating old tablets into Assyrian and the lingua franca of the day Akkadian, they all signed their work Rabbi and in fact the writing of Genesis is currently dated to this period. Originally written no doubt by learned men who would have signed their work Rabbi, but yanno, who knows where they got their inspiration from
roflmao"

btw johnny, its not the sceptics that are ripping you to pieces here, its the Atheists, try not to get them confused eh.

 

[AdMan]

Johnny has been closely quoting from what I assume is his own site:

http://thedaystar.webs.com/wtbsa/world.html

 

[Ethnikos]

Johnny has been closely quoting from what I assume is his own site:

http://thedaystar.webs.com/wtbsa/world.html

since you already linked to it, yes, that's what I found.

 

[AdMan]

since you already linked to it, yes, that's what I found.

I don't see why there would be a problem linking to it, since he's been quoting from it.

 

[Johnny Marseilles]

Is the J.W.'s an "organized religion"?

Of course.

 

[dafydd]

Of course.

The JW are totally out to lunch but even they do not believe that "magnetism is the effect of the divine ray in manifestation in the same sense that electricity is the manifested effect of the primordial ray of active intelligence"

 

[Ethnikos]

I don't see why there would be a problem linking to it, since he's been quoting from it.

no problem
I just wanted to have the thing I mentioned, tested
that anyone can go straight to it just by googling part of his post

 

[dafydd]

no problem
I just wanted to have the thing I mentioned, tested
that anyone can go straight to it just by googling part of his post

Pass.

 

[Toontown]

Nope nice try though. Gods an alien, the primordial evil is as smart as hell. The co-creator is tough and cunning. The human creation is the smallest fraction.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

 

[Johnny Marseilles]

no problem
I just wanted to have the thing I mentioned, tested
that anyone can go straight to it just by googling part of his post

Psssttt! [whispers] Oh great discoverer of mysteries and god emperor of all wisdom . . . check the credits on Johnny's site and devnull's signature!

 

[dafydd]

Psssttt! [whispers] Oh great discoverer of mysteries and god emperor of all wisdom . . . check the credits on Johnny's site and devnull's signature!

I've already passed on your site. No idea what the rest of your post is supposed to mean. Mystical stuff,I'll bet.

 

[Johnny Marseilles]

I've already passed on your site. No idea what the rest of your post is supposed to mean. Mystical stuff,I'll bet.

I was talking to Ethnikos.

 

[dafydd]

I was talking to Ethnikos.

Send him a private message,this is a public forum.

 

[Ethnikos]

Psssttt! [whispers] Oh great discoverer of mysteries and god emperor of all wisdom . . . check the credits on Johnny's site and devnull's signature!

114 Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life." Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

 

[Johnny Marseilles]

114 Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life." Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

Exodus 18:4 - and the name of the other was Eliezer, "because," to quote him, "the God of my father is my helper in that he delivered me from Pharaoh’s sword."

Deuteronomy 33:7 - And this was Judah’s [blessing], as he went on to say: "Hear, O Jehovah, the voice of Judah, And may you bring him to his people. His arms have contended for what is his; And may you prove yourself a helper from his adversaries."

Hosea 13:9 - It will certainly bring you to ruin, O Israel, because it was against me, against your helper.

Psalm 33:20 - Our very soul has been in expectation of Jehovah. Our helper and our shield he is.

 

[dafydd]

I've noticed you like to stick your head in conversations to say absolutely nothing or some brief negative comment as if the weight of your opinion matters one wit. Is, uh, is that how you raked up over 12,000 posts?

Lots of nothing.

You would know all about nothing. It's whit,by the way. I ask questions which woos never answer or instead make comments like the one above. They call my behaviour not entering into a discussion.

 

[PGH]

Exodus 18:4 - and the name of the other was Eliezer, "because," to quote him, "the God of my father is my helper in that he delivered me from Pharaoh’s sword."

Deuteronomy 33:7 - And this was Judah’s [blessing], as he went on to say: "Hear, O Jehovah, the voice of Judah, And may you bring him to his people. His arms have contended for what is his; And may you prove yourself a helper from his adversaries."

Hosea 13:9 - It will certainly bring you to ruin, O Israel, because it was against me, against your helper.

Psalm 33:20 - Our very soul has been in expectation of Jehovah. Our helper and our shield he is.

Nice quotes. Here's another from the same book:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.



You can keep your book. I want no part of it. And I'm sure not going to accept it as evidence of anything but primitive mythology.

 

[Spindrift]

Psssttt! [whispers] Oh great discoverer of mysteries and god emperor of all wisdom . . . check the credits on Johnny's site and devnull's signature!

Johnny we hardly knew ye.


Oops, looks like we did know ye.

Johnny Marseilles has been banned as a sockpuppet of a previously banned member.