The Electric Comet theory

[Haig]

This belongs with my previous post.

As NASA investigate the electric asteroid bringing them closer to an understanding of the electric comet it may also lead on to an understanding of this ... Taming the Fierce Energy of the Vacuum

To quote Nikola Tesla, who made practical generators and motors possible with his discovery of the rotating magnetic field: "Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality."

Understand, a good model is essential to technology. But if the model is inadequate, then it should either be corrected or a new model should be substituted that is adequate.

But our electrical power engineers and most of the scientific community have developed a mindset where the closed current loop circuit, Lorentz symmetrical regauging, and COP<1.0 electrical circuits are considered as iron laws of nature. They are not such at all, but merely the self-limited and self-enforced contrivances of human beings.

 

[Dancing David]

Well DeiRenDopa and the rest of you who posted comments on the Thunderbolts video of The Electric Comet theory

NASA look to be moving to the electric nature of the environment around asteroids. Not a large step to consider electric comets ... is it?

New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids


Plasma Simulation of the Solar Wind and a Near-Earth Asteroid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n8l62QJcBQ

Uh huh and where is any evidence that there is enough charge/current to make a comet glow?

Zero, zilch, nada, niente, absent and unaccounted or.

 

[Dancing David]

This belongs with my previous post.

As NASA investigate the electric asteroid bringing them closer to an understanding of the electric comet it may also lead on to an understanding of this ... Taming the Fierce Energy of the Vacuum

Data, evidence seriously lacking, so evidence of charge differential and current sufficient to make an asteroid glow like a comet?

 

[Dancing David]

I would simply dispute that as a fact ...

The Modern Vacuum: Empty Space Has Unlimited EM Energy
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/bearden_fn.htm

spirit of Maat, ah yes the greatest resources for highly sourced and informative data. Where are the measurements?

Where is the actual data?

A page of footnotes, evidence of a charge sufficient to make an asteroid glow like a comet?

Lacking...

But there is this!

[Next month, we will publish Part II of Tom Bearden's article, in which he turns his focus to the fascinating subject of the interaction of mind power with the energy of the "active vacuum."]

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I tried interacting my mind power with the active vacuum and it went horribly wrong. Now I'm a penguin.

 

[Haig]

Uh huh and where is any evidence that there is enough charge/current to make a comet glow?

Zero, zilch, nada, niente, absent and unaccounted or.

So DD, are you saying NASA are wrong in this electric asteroid model? Please explain how they are wrong!

The solar wind is an electrically conducting gas called plasma where matter has been torn apart into electrons, which are relatively light, and positively charged ions, which are thousands of times more massive. While areas in sunlight can charge positive, areas in shadow get a strong negative charge when electrons in the solar wind rush in ahead of heavier ions to fill voids created as the solar wind flows by.

The surface of Earth is shielded from the direct effects of this activity by our planet's magnetic field, but airless objects without strong repelling magnetic fields, like small asteroids, have no protection from electrical activity in space.

New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

So DD, are you saying NASA are wrong in this electric asteroid model? Please explain how they are wrong!

New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids

No, people are telling you that you are powering a nuclear aircraft carrier with a battery made from lemon and two nails. Both are electricity does not make them the same

 

[Haig]

I tried interacting my mind power with the active vacuum and it went horribly wrong. Now I'm a penguin.

OK mr penguin, are you saying NASA is wrong too? Or are you just here for the fish

Electric comets interacting with our Electric sun is what this thread is about.

These amazing videos support that theory imo.

Sunspot's Rolling Plasma and Shocks Snapped In Incredible Detail | Video

The Big Bear Solar Observatory has delivered high definition views of a sunspot. The data will be used to unravel mysteries presented by these dark and concentrated magnetic fields.

Earth's Largest Solar Telescope Takes Awesome, High-Def Images of Sun (Video)
http://www.space.com/26343-largest-solar-telescope-sun-video.html

No force on the surface of a star is capable of holding these powerful structures together, but the method by which sunspots remain stable is still unknown.

Birkland currents at work

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

NASA isn't wrong, you're misusing their statements.

 

[Haig]

NASA isn't wrong, you're misusing their statements.

The two quotes I used from NASA were these :-

New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids

understanding the electrical environment around an asteroid could help identify locations where astronauts can safely make first contact with the object," said co-author William Farrell of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. "If an astronaut is tethered to a spacecraft that is in sunlight and positively charged, and touches a negatively charged asteroid surface in shadow, there could be an unexpected current flow between the two systems upon contact. We simply can't speculate on the nature of that current without this model."

The solar wind is an electrically conducting gas called plasma where matter has been torn apart into electrons, which are relatively light, and positively charged ions, which are thousands of times more massive. While areas in sunlight can charge positive, areas in shadow get a strong negative charge when electrons in the solar wind rush in ahead of heavier ions to fill voids created as the solar wind flows by.

The surface of Earth is shielded from the direct effects of this activity by our planet's magnetic field, but airless objects without strong repelling magnetic fields, like small asteroids, have no protection from electrical activity in space.

NASA said what they said ... how am I misusing them???

I used them because they talk about current flow; The solar wind is an electrically conducting gas called plasma and electrical activity in space

Make NO mistake this IS a step towards the Electric Universe theory by NASA

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I'm still looking for numbers that prove you are NOT powering an aircraft carrier with a lemon and two nails.

 

[Haig]

I'm still looking for numbers that prove you are NOT powering an aircraft carrier with a lemon and two nails.

Ask NASA They are the ones with the numbers you trust ... right!

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

So you don't have numbers either way then? Thanks for your heartfelt confession.

 

[Haig]

So you don't have numbers either way then?

I don't, but others on the PC/EU side do.

Here's a start for you

S0 News June 26, 2014 | Electric Asteroids, Major US/Can Storm Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--OCvgzpuIk&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ

 

[ben m]

NASA said what they said ... how am I misusing them???

I used them because they talk about current flow; The solar wind is an electrically conducting gas called plasma and electrical activity in space

Make NO mistake this IS a step towards the Electric Universe theory by NASA

No, NASA is talking about the mainstream theory of plasma, electric and magnetic fields, and the solar wind. This is the mainstream theory is the one that disproves Electric Universe theory, remember?

See the tiny "current flow" NASA is talking about? Do you remember all of the mainstream calculations that have been presented, on this board, by many people including me, of how an object in orbit may charge up a little? Do you remember that those calculations disprove Don-Scott-style EU/PC arguments? NASA is talking about the mainstream version of these sparks (they're tiny) not the EC daydream version.

See the "solar wind" NASA is talking about? Do you remember how the existence, charge neutrality, and energy spectrum of this wind are easy mainstream arguments showing that EU/PC solar models are wrong? NASA is talking about the mainstream solar wind, the wind they've been studying for 60+ years, the wind that EU/PCers have to ignore 99.9% of the time because it's incompatible with EU/PC theory. I know that EU/PCers love to pretend that "mainstream astronomers ignore plasma", and love to pretend that any use of the word "plasma" is a new victory for EU/PC, but it's never been true.

 

[Dancing David]

Ask NASA They are the ones with the numbers you trust ... right!

Haig, I asked you before, so where is the current strong enough to make an asteroid glow liek a comet?

Hmmm

3 V/m is that confirmation of a charge that makes an asteroid glow?

Was it glowing?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Don't forget 'Electric Universe' types pretend that the Mainstream does not include or ignores anything to do with Plasma or Charge.

 

[Reality Check]

NASA look to be moving to the electric nature of the environment around asteroids. Not a large step to consider electric comets ... is it?

Only insanely ignorant people would consider electric comets, Haig since anyone with 2 brain cells knows that 0.6 is less than 3.0 !
Electric comets still do not exist!
These are the facts about comets that you and other EU proponents have been in denial about for many years, e.g. Comets have measured densities that are much less than that of rocks (asteroids)! was posted in 2009 !

The science is an improvement on existing models not anything new as anyone who reads the link can see, Haig. Astronomers have been looking at the plasma environment of asteroids for decades!
New NASA Model Gives Glimpse into the Invisible World of Electric Asteroids

The insanity of thinking that this is related to imaginary electric comets is obvious , e.g.
* Where is the visible coma, Haig?
* Where is the visible tail, Haig?
* Where are the water and other ices, Haig?
* Why is this asteroid still called an asteroid, Haig?
Actually: Where is the comet (electric or otherwise), Haig ?

 

[Reality Check]

I see the mainstream view coming towards the electric universe view.

No, Haig - you see deluded people on the Thunderbolts book advertisement web site speaking from a stance of ignorance and denial.

The science shows that the electric universe is a crank idea that ignores the real universe, e.g. electric comets, the observed laws of physics, etc.

 

[Reality Check]

I would simply dispute that as a fact ...

The Modern Vacuum: Empty Space Has Unlimited EM Energy
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/bearden_fn.htm

A totally fact-less post, Haig !
Just the references for a random, unrelated crank book on the Internet. In this case it is the good old idiocy of free energy from the vacuum.