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The Deluge

Madalch said:
He's suggesting that, if at 300 feet, there is a flood with the waters 22 feet high, then at 6800 feet, there will be no flood.

If you're flooding Colorado at 6800 feet, then the 300-foot elevation parts of the world will be 6500 feet under water.

Unless you're suggesting that the water stacks up on the mountains instead of flowing, so everything has an even 22 feet of water on it.
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Why not, he is talking about magic.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
Why not, he is talking about magic.
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It has to be. It's the only way life could have survived under the crushing atmospheric pressures and hellish temperatures of his "Vapor Canopy" Earth.

Everything is easy to explain with bulls**t!
 
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David Henson said:
Of the present world or the one that existed before the flood?

"Where the mountains of the world now tower to dizzy heights, oceans and plains once, millions of years ago, stretched out in flat monotony. . . . The movements of the continental plates cause the land both to rear up to heights where only the hardiest of animals and plants can survive and, at the other extreme, to plunge and lie in hidden splendor deep beneath the surface of the sea." - The Neck of the Giraffe, by Francis Hitching, 1982, p. 19.
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Again, Francis Hitching is a liar. Hitching claimed to be a member of the Royal Archaeological Institute. This was a lie. He claimed that Stephen J. Gould helped him write the book that you've just reference. This was another lie. Gould said he'd never heard of him. Hitching also implied that Richard Dawkins had endorsed his book. this was yet another lie. Dawkins stated that he had never heard of him before. Hitching's book is rife with pseudo-scientific nonesense and lies. You might want to re-think using him as a reference to support your arguments.

"The average depth of all the seas has been estimated at 3,790 metres (12,430 feet), a figure considerably larger than that of the average elevation of the land above the sea level, which is 840 metres (2,760 feet). If the average depth is multiplied by its respective surface area, the volume of the World Ocean is 11 times the volume of the land above sea level." - The New Encyclopædia Britannica 1987, Vol. 25, p. 124.
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So what? Where is the geological evidence that there was a world-wide flood?
 
David Henson said:
Are you suggesting that at an elevation of 300 ft there has to be a 300 foot wall of water to categorize a flood?

Genesis 1:6-7 / 2 Peter 3:5-6
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It certainly is if Genesis 8:4 is to be believed. Unless, somehow, you're arguing that the "mountains of Ararat" were about as high as a two-storey house. I don't even think the scribes who wrote it were that stupid.

I don't really understand your point. You're arguing for a deluge--a catastrophic global flood--and then minimising its possible impact by telling us that it was only a few metres deep. If the scribes wanted to tell us that there was plenty of low-lying land and no actual mountains--or even moderate highlands--then don't you think they would have written it down?

They seem to be awfully precise about the cubits of this or that, the days passing between this and that, full genealogies, and all sorts of specific times and measurements, but they couldn't figure out what height or depth was when it came to one of the most crucial events in all the Old Testament.

Why is that?
 
Achán hiNidráne said:
It has to be. It's the only way life could have survived under the crushing atmospheric pressures and hellish temperatures of his "Vapor Canopy" Earth.

Everything is easy to explain with bulls**t!
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It's kind of a terrestrial version of Venus unless my understanding is incorrect.

I would definitely call in sick the day our atmosphere contained sufficient water vapour to condense, fall, and raise the oceans 20 feet.
 
stilicho said:
It's kind of a terrestrial version of Venus unless my understanding is incorrect.
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Venus? Venus is only a greenhouse Hell because of the Fall! Before that strumpet Eve gave him the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, it was as perfect as the rest of God Jehovah's creation!

stilicho said:
I would definitely call in sick the day our atmosphere contained sufficient water vapour to condense, fall, and raise the oceans 20 feet.
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Watch, He'll just that "separated the waters" line from Genesis to claim that the waters weren't actual in the Earth's atmosphere, but in High Earth Orbit in space.
 
Cavemonster said:
Most of them.

There is actually a better quality of apologist out there who are actually worth debating, but most people who come here to defend religion are the cranks.
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I've been called an apologist myself because I have no axe to grind with those who choose a belief system for cultural reasons.

I guess I was drawn to this one because the hope clause included at the end of the story conflicts directly with the killing machine of Christian eschatology. I've always figured the tale of Noah was a decent story of man versus nature and deserves a spot in our literary archives.

It must have been horrible in ancient times to be living, farming, fishing, or hunting in an area close enough to seas or rivers to depend on them for food and transportation but always aware that such proximity could spell your death.
 
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