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Ed The Cuomo Scandal.

Ziggurat said:
Third parties see things. None of these scandals was ever truly private. There are always other people complicit in the silence. Always. If you don't know that by now, you aren't paying attention.
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Really? You think what Cuomo did was always in front of others?

LINDSEY BOYLAN, 36, a former state economic development adviser, says the governor kissed her on the lips as she was leaving a one-on-one meeting in his office and suggested playing strip poker on a state plane.
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CHARLOTTE BENNETT, 25, a former Cuomo aide, said the governor asked her about her love life — including whether she ever had sex with older men — and talked about his own, saying that age differences didn’t matter in relationships and he was open to dating women over 22. During a meeting alone in his office, the governor said he was lonely and talked about wanting to hug someone, Bennett said.
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KAREN HINTON, who worked for Cuomo when he was Clinton’s federal housing secretary in the 1990s, said Cuomo gave her an overly long and intimate hug after calling her to his hotel room for a conversation that turned to personal topics on a trip where she was serving as a consultant to the housing agency.
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A MEMBER OF CUOMO’S STAFF alleged that he closed a door, reached under her blouse and fondled her after summoning her to the governor’s mansion in Albany for help with his cellphone, according to the Times Union of Albany.
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https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-sexual-harassment-accusers-e2778d499b5c515a0b2e89194489fc45

The other allegations are largely of making the women feel uncomfortable by him putting his arm around their waist or on their back, or kissing a hand at her desk, or getting called by patronizing names, including “blondie,” “sweetheart” and “honey.” etc. These were done in public and are not overtly sexual harassment.

When Cuomo was more overt, it was done in private. Was there a big 'Dem establishment' cover up? Not that you've shown. Par for the course.
 
Ziggurat said:
Did I say that? No, I didn't.

But if the political powers in Albany had wanted him out, they could have launched an investigation years ago. And then it wouldn't be rumors anymore. But they didn't want him out. They didn't care. They only started to care when WE found out.



If Kavanaugh is your point of comparison, then I know you're just getting desperate.
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There’s an irony disconnect between these two paragraphs given how much covering up has been revealed in the Kavanaugh investigation.
 
kookbreaker said:
“And all Dems must pass a purity test that I assign and will never apply to any Republican ever.”
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Latest hypocrisy is the GOP shedding crocidile tears over the Afghans, but now screming about letting "Muslims" refugees into the country .....
 
mumblethrax said:
Expulsion of congressmen is easier than impeachment. It takes only 2/3 of the members of the relevant body.
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Which would mean only some 70 (R)s would have to vote for Gaetz's expulsion. Only 10 of them were able to put country over party for Jan 6th when their own lives had been in danger, so 70 against one of their own when their butts are safe is a huge stretch.
 
wareyin said:
Which would mean only some 70 (R)s would have to vote for Gaetz's expulsion. Only 10 of them were able to put country over party for Jan 6th when their own lives had been in danger, so 70 against one of their own when their butts are safe is a huge stretch.
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Oh, they won't do it, unless maybe he's criminally convicted and becomes too embarrassing to have around. But the idea that they have no power to do so is incorrect.
 
Ziggurat said:
It doesn't take mind reading skills, only a little knowledge of history and basic human nature. These scandals are all the same. The Catholic Church, Weinstein & Epstein, Matt Lauer, Bill Cosby, and more. These people didn't commit single acts of transgression, they had extensive patterns of misbehavior, with many, many victims. People notice patterns, even if they remain silent.. And that too is a pattern: silence in the face of powerful people misbehaving. But people, including victims, still talk, even if not publicly, and rumors spread. People in the know, know. But they don't say anything, because again, the perpetrators have power. There's nothing about Cuomo that makes him special. Nothing he did would make his actions any more hidden than those of countless other people in power that everyone else in power knew was misbehaving but did nothing about.

If you can't recognize that pattern, you're an idiot. I don't think you're an idiot, but you do seem to be playing dumb.
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You appear to be making two mistakes here. First, you are confusing speculation with definite knowledge. They are obviously not the same things but without evidence, they can be hard to distinguish. Second, you are assuming that organizations are some sort of hive mind where anyone in the group necessarily knows everything anyone else knows. People often only have part of the story at a time, not the whole picture.

It's entirely possible that some people in an organizations may have guessed part of a situation like this, while others have information about different parts, but nobody necessarily has the full story. This is why we have investigations and why it is sometimes surprising how big a problem actually is.

So, unless you have evidence that the "democratic establishment" knew the whole story* (or even just a sufficient amount of it) prior to the investigation, you are, yourself, just making an assumption.

I mean, it isn't like Cuomo admitted on a hot mic that he was a sexual preditor.



* And I'm not saying they didn't know the whole story. The may very well have. I just don't assume I know without evidence.
 
One of the first acts of the newly elevated Governor of New York is to publicly acknowledge that Cuomo lied about covid deaths.

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Gov. Kathy Hochul acknowledges nearly 12,000 more COVID-19 fatalities in NY than publicized by Cuomo administration.
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https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1430545130537295877

It's really curious that the nursing home scandal wasn't the issue that killed Cuomo's career, but rather his gross personal habit of sexually harassing and assaulting women.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
One of the first acts of the newly elevated Governor of New York is to publicly acknowledge that Cuomo lied about covid deaths.



https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1430545130537295877

It's really curious that the nursing home scandal wasn't the issue that killed Cuomo's career, but rather his gross personal habit of sexually harassing and assaulting women.
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Give that man an Emmy!! He really was a great actor.


ETA: Also it was the sexual misconduct not his strong arm tactics against other politicians. Ask Governor Patterson or Ron kim who recently said he threatened him (not physically). I am certain there have been others who accused him but I can't recall at this moment
 
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One of the Reason's Cuomo fell was many New York Democrats, behind closed doors, hated his guts.
You would be amazed how much intraparty politics is based on people just not liking each other.
 
He just had dirt on them too. If he didn't they wouldn't have let him shut down prior investigations into his corruption.
 
Cuomo should be in jail, I agree.



It's sad that Republicans get away with this kind of crime.
 
Stacyhs said:
I do have to wonder, though, if after all this sexual harassment by Cuomo was publicly revealed, if Democrats would still have elected him to the presidency?

Nah, just kidding. I'm not wondering at all.
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Democrats are better at knowing when to abandon the wounded.
 
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