The Cult.

[thaiboxerken]

Forget Logical Deism, A-Theist-Boy, let’s just concentrate on You.

Why? Because there is no truth in LD.

After all, Solipsism is True, and no one else exist besides YOU.

So you freely admit that Logical Deism is false and that we should all adhere to Solipsism?


You see you’re a-theism is much simpler this way. Now you don’t have to account for the entire universe magically appearing.

Yea, instead of magic, we could always say "god did it". Hate to burst your bubble, but "god" is just another magical explanation.

I don't know how the universe originated, or if it ever was in a state of non-existence. There you go, I'm saying I don't know. Can you admit that you don't know either?

Now all you have to account for is YOU magically appearing.

I think most people in this forum have a basic understanding of human reproduction, but if you want to call sex "magic", then go ahead. Maybe your parents never gave you that talk. Maybe you are content with thinking that masturbation is all that your penis is good for.

Yes, but if the force is non-conscious, then how on Earth could you possibly be conscious?

Midichlorians are conscious, all individuals but connected and when they all act together, they are typically called "the force".


I mean … what you are claiming is that “a magic mystery “robot”” built you, and somehow YOU are more complicated and elaborate that the “magic mystery “robot”” itself!

No, that would be the creationist arguement. That some "god" built us for the soul purpose of worshipping it.


Really? How so? Or should I ask, why would Fatalism suddenly and magically make your beliefs and perceptions irrelevant?

Because, if your fate claim is true, it's not really our fault for being atheist. You should be bitching at fate and not us.

How exactly? By telling people their existence is meaningless, there are no ultimate answers, everything fades, and you cease to exist when you die? Based on Nothing but “Wishful Thinking” (i.e. utter, dire Pessimism)??

That's, yet again, is another straw-man. I'm atheist and I'm telling people to make their lives meaningful, go out and get financially successful and help to preserve our world. I'm telling people that we only have one chance, one life, to do as much as we can. God-believers, typically, telll people to stand-by and pray and let god do the work.... and that they have all of eternity to procrastinate.

You need to wake up and smell the coffee coppertop; You are playing Pascal’s wager except you are rooting for the loss!

No, most people here understand that Pascals' Wager is a fallacy. It's a false Dichotomy.

You are nuts my little Graviton – bonkers – insane in the membrane. You are the kind of guy who likes to burn his hand on the hot stove, and you are telling me I am the crazy one for not liking it.

Maybe you should go see your local psychiatrist and explain to him why the rest of us are insane. I ask you to do this for us to show us compassion, go and find help for us. Go to your local shrink and explain the situation, refer him to this forum as evidence and let him know that you are the "Franko" that is the only sane voice in the thread.

 

[Guest]

I very much doubt that JREF is a cult, as cults do not allow interaction with those that disagree with the cult. For example, go to a scientology board and tell them that it's crap and you'll be banned.

This forum, which is moderated by many atheists, has not and does not censor and ban people for believing in a god or even insults against atheists. An atheist cult would have gotten rid of these whacky theists long ago.

Charlatan:
Who told you that the entire JREF forum is a cult?
Who wrote that? Did I , as you wrote? Where is your evidence?

You are just a member of the charlatan's cult.
Or put the evidence that I wrote that the entire JREF forum is a cult. Just do it, charlatan.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Tricky]

That's why I joined the cult. One so seldom gets to meet other solipsists.

LOL. Good point. And when they meet, the conversation goes a lot like this.

Solipsist 1 - I don't know why were bothering to meet. You're just a figment of my imagination.

Solipsist 2 - NO! You're a figment of my imagination!

Solipsist 1 - You are!

Solipsist 2 - You are!

Solipsist 1 - Neener neener!

 

[Guest]

Charlatan thai:

Meet some friends and some quotes of your cult:

LUKE T wrote:
Hal, You Could Have Saved Time....
...by just changing the name of the Religion and Philosophy section to the Bogus or Brilliant section.

It's been pretty bogus for months now....

Wyrd wrote:
We are happy with our cult. Imagine how much happier we would be with it if you and Latinijral took Donkey Show elsewhere.

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=348004#post348004

Just examples of your charlatan's cult.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[thaiboxerken]

You are just a member of the charlatan's cult.
Or put the evidence that I wrote that the entire JREF forum is a cult. Just do it, charlatan.

Thanks,
S&S [/QUOTE]

You are placing everying in the forum that disagrees with your viewpoint in this imaginary cult. This cult doesn't exist, it is merely somethign you built so you can insult people.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Charlatan thai:

Meet some friends and some quotes of your cult:


http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=348004#post348004

Just examples of your charlatan's cult.

Thanks,
S&S

LOL.. So a person using sarcasm is evidence of this cult? Yes, we are all a big cult and we're out there all around you, waiting to take your children and use them as parts for an organic spaceship. Mwahahhahaha.


You are a dumbass.

 

[muscleman]

U guys dislike Franko, LOL...I know why, because he is telling the truth..If theres something atheism is good at, then that is to show the power of denial....LOL, seriously, and I mean seriously, atheism is pure comdey...Ohhh it tickles me when atheists laugh at some christians, it just show how ridiculous theyre understanding are.. Its like making serious comments, but because they didnt get it (too dumb) then they laugh thinking its comedy, and their laughter makes me laugh too....

 

[Guest]

You are just a member of the charlatan's cult.
Or put the evidence that I wrote that the entire JREF forum is a cult. Just do it, charlatan.

Thanks,
S&S

You are placing everying in the forum that disagrees with your viewpoint in this imaginary cult. This cult doesn't exist, it is merely somethign you built so you can insult people. [/QUOTE]

Charlatan thai:

Just post the evidence that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult .

Just do it, charlatan. Your bla bla bla, posts and acussations without evidences , are proofs that you are a charlatan , a member of the charlatan's cult. Until you don't post the evidence , you are just a charlatan. Like the others.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Franko]

thaifoodkenny: (moron)

If you can name one thing that exists but doesn't have any evidence associated with it, feel free to do it. Until you do, I'll stick with my conclusion that there is no god.

There is no evidence for "free will", and unless "free will" exist, then there is DEFINITELY a "God". You can contradict yourself until you are blue in the face for all I care religious fanatic.

 

[Franko]

muscleman:
U guys dislike Franko, LOL...I know why, because he is telling the truth..If theres something atheism is good at, then that is to show the power of denial....LOL, seriously, and I mean seriously, atheism is pure comdey...Ohhh it tickles me when atheists laugh at some christians, it just show how ridiculous theyre understanding are.. Its like making serious comments, but because they didnt get it (too dumb) then they laugh thinking its comedy, and their laughter makes me laugh too....

The most hysterical thing about the A-Theists is that they all think they are the cat's meow. It just cracks me up how blind to reality they really are. A-Theists actually believe that they are more intelligent than the average person (Theist). They're nothing but a bunch of stupid ignorant hypocrites. Personally when someone tells me they are an A-Theist I have the almost the same reaction as when someone tells me they are a Neo-nazi.

Yeah ... a real bunch of geniuses.

Just take a look at that idiot thaifoodkenny if you want an example of the “mighty A-Theist intellect”

 

[thaiboxerken]

There is no evidence for "free will", and unless "free will" exist, then there is DEFINITELY a "God". You can contradict yourself until you are blue in the face for all I care religious fanatic.

So, if one believes in a god, they cannot believe in free will? Or if one doesn't believe in a god, they must believe in free will?

You are making assumptions based on no knowledge or evidence here.

 

[thaiboxerken]

A-Theists actually believe that they are more intelligent than the average person (Theist).

It just happens to be that most scientists in the USA are atheist/agnostic. This doesn't mean that atheists are smarter, but it does show that your assumption that atheists are ignorant and stupid to be false. I don't think that theists are unintelligent or ignorant, it's just that intelligence is void when it comes to their god beliefs.


They're nothing but a bunch of stupid ignorant hypocrites. Personally when someone tells me they are an A-Theist I have the almost the same reaction as when someone tells me they are a Neo-nazi.

That's because you are a bigot.


Yeah ... a real bunch of geniuses.

How much intelligence does it take to be a garbage man?


Just take a look at that idiot thaifoodkenny if you want an example of the “mighty A-Theist intellect”

Hey, if my company wants to pay me the big bucks for being highly intelligent, then I'll keep letting them think that I'm intelligent. I don't know if I would qualify for the high-tech training it takes to pick up garbage.

 

[Blue Monk]

Does it take an atheistic cult to determine that there is no large dark object passing through or even near either tower from videos like this….

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In collecting these videos I have come across many duplications but I can assure you this is a rare shot.



If one could travel back in time for the express purpose of determining if any foreign object was passing through this tower you could not have set up a better viewing angle than this. The video is sharp and clear and it is still only a small part of the mountain of evidence that proves beyond all doubt that there is no large dark object passing through or even near either tower.

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I'll be posting new videos daily.

We could all be members of a Cult and wear funny robes and perform all sort of bizarre rituals but that does not change the fact that Carlo's claim is BS, there is no large dark object passing through or even near either tower and he is just a callous self-serving, self-centered con-man that will do anything to get his name in print.

When you 'holier-than-thou' non-atheists view these videos remember not to focus on the pain and misery represented here, the loss of innocent lives, the countless families affected, the many war dead both recent and soon to come.

No, let's all stay focused on what is really important.

Your pious attempts to put all atheists in their place and Carlo's petty desire to be in print.

Who cares if you have to crawl into bed with a creep like Carlos. You are the righteous ones after all.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Charlatan thai:

Just post the evidence that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult.

You didn't, you are selective in who you will place in your imaginary cult. You pick out those from the forum that disagree with your narrow viewpoints and call them cultists. It's merely an insult tactic, I understand that you really don't think we are in a cult. You only want to ruffle our feathers, I admit that you did, but I'm above that now. Insult all you like, it still doesn't provide anyone evidence of your god.

 

[J3K]

thaiboxerken
I gots a question. It's about the fate or free will thing. I am just curious how you think a little bit of both exists?? That is what I am assuming you believe from what you posted earlier in this thread. I agree with everything else I have read you say, but this one strikes me and I don't understand it. So I am just curious what reasoning you have for believing this. If you don't however, please correct me with what you do believe.

 

[thaiboxerken]

thaiboxerken
I gots a question. It's about the fate or free will thing. I am just curious how you think a little bit of both exists??

It's simple, I neither believe in fate or free will.

When you drop an object, it falls down, that's not fate, that is just gravity.. cause and effect. I believe that this cause and effect also is how our "will" operates, I also believe that there are so many factors that we may as well use a free-will model.

 

[Franko]

thaifoolkenny (ummm, ummm good)
So, if one believes in a god, they cannot believe in free will?

Not if they are interested in being Logically consistent.

Or if one doesn't believe in a god, they must believe in free will?

This is just dawning on you A-Theist? You really are a brainwashed moron.

You are making assumptions based on no knowledge or evidence here.

I love it when idiot A-Theists think before they speak. Reminds me of how wonderful it is that the game has been rigged.

 

[Franko]

thaifoodkenny:

It's simple, I neither believe in fate or free will.

When you drop an object, it falls down, that's not fate, that is just gravity.. cause and effect. I believe that this cause and effect also is how our "will" operates, I also believe that there are so many factors that we may as well use a free-will model.

Translation: thaifoodkenny is an imbecile. And what makes it even funnier is he thinks he is "smart".

 

[Guest]

Charlatan thai:

Just post the evidence that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult.

You didn't, you are selective in who you will place in your imaginary cult.

So , you are a charlatan and a liar. You accused me that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult.

Enjoy your charlatan's cult of pseudo skeptics and true beleivers.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[thaiboxerken]

So , you are a charlatan and a liar. You accused me that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult.


Really? I said you called the forum a cult, meaning anyone that actually admire's Randi's work. There is no cult here, you can't even show evidence of a leader. You can try this red-herring tactic all you want, but you still have no evidence that I'm in a cult.


Enjoy your charlatan's cult of pseudo skeptics and true beleivers.

Thanks,
S&S

Not a pseudo-skeptic, I'm a skeptic and non-believer. I believe in no gods, no fantasy, no mythology or the existence of supernatural and paranormal things. Your insult tactics are a vain attempt to try and shift the skepticism towards the skeptics because you have NO EVIDENCE of your gods or paranormal events.