• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

The Cult.

thaifoodkenny: (lying A-Theist)
Not a pseudo-skeptic, I'm a skeptic and non-believer. I believe in no gods, no fantasy, no mythology or the existence of supernatural and paranormal things. Your insult tactics are a vain attempt to try and shift the skepticism towards the skeptics because you have NO EVIDENCE of your gods or paranormal events.

A bold faced Lie!

Either you believe in a conscious god (like a Theist/Deist), or you believe that you have magic “free willy” powers and you are God (A-Theism).

“free willy” is your “god” A-Theist.

Of course since I know that you happen to be an especially dishonest and dogmatic little moron I am betting you are going to try and pretend that you don’t even believe in your own religion. I bet you will deny that you believe in your magic “free willy” powers.

But without your precious “free willy” then you are being controlled by The Laws of Physics utterly and the Laws of Physics are simply the Hand of God.

Atoms obey TLOP.
You are made of Atoms.
YOU OBEY TLOP!

TLOP (God) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR

In the same way that YOU are more conscious than your CAR, TLOP (God) is more conscious than YOU. To claim otherwise is as insane as claiming that when you go for a ride in your CAR, that CAR is more in control then YOU are.

What is making the decision according to You anyway religious fanatic? There is no YOU according to A-Theism, YOU are just your physical brain, and your brain is simply atoms obeying the same rules that all chemicals obey.

How are YOU making decisions any more than a rock does? Are you claiming that the atoms in your mind are taking a vote or something? Did they elect a little “president atom” or something like that? Do the little atoms have armies and opposing philosophies? Do they ever disagree and have to duke it out inside your mind?
 
Evidently S&S learned a new word today ("charlatan"). [SIZE=-21]Wasn't he the guy in The Ten Commandments?[/SIZE]

Blue Monk -- I would expect it of the twits S&S and latinjral, but please don't post any more pictures of that incident (links would be OK). It is still very distressing to me.
 
"Either you believe in a conscious god (like a Theist/Deist), or you believe that you have magic “free willy” powers and you are God (A-Theism). "

I believe in neither. You are creating a false dichotomy and trying to make everyone succumb to it. There are more possibilities than your choices. How is it that christians believe in a god AND free-will?

"“free willy” is your “god” A-Theist."

Once you have power-of-attorney over my beliefs, I'll let you assign them for me. For now, it is a fact that I believe in neither free-will or a god.

"I bet you will deny that you believe in your magic “free willy” powers."

It's not denial, it is a fact that I don't believe in free-will or gods. Just because it's beyond your tiny little mind to understand more than 2 possibilities doesn't mean that I have to succumb to your dichotomy.

"But without your precious “free willy” then you are being controlled by The Laws of Physics utterly and the Laws of Physics are simply the Hand of God. "

This arguement has been shown to be false so many times that I don't understand why you haven't figured out that it is false yet. Oh, I know why, because you are a fundamentalist, insane, commie-troll!

"What is making the decision according to You anyway religious fanatic?"

A combination of many physical factors. So many physical factors that I may as well use a free-will model.

" There is no YOU according to A-Theism, YOU are just your physical brain, and your brain is simply atoms obeying the same rules that all chemicals obey. "

Not just the brain, but the sum and perception of all my experiences as well.
 
Franko:
Of course since I know that you happen to be an especially dishonest and dogmatic little moron I am betting you are going to try and pretend that you don’t even believe in your own religion. I bet you will deny that you believe in your magic “free willy” powers.

thaifoodkenny:
I believe in neither. You are creating a false dichotomy and trying to make everyone succumb to it. There are more possibilities than your choices.

No there aren’t. If there were other “choices” you would have listed them.

How is it that christians believe in a god AND free-will?

Some Christians, but apparently not all. For example, aside from myself (and I am not a Christian anyway) you have muscleman, annadee, jedi, and gentlehorse, all acknowledged theists, and all acknowledged disbelievers in your “free willy” god.

Besides since when is Christian belief empirical evidence about the nature of reality?

I believe in neither free-will or a god.

Like I said you are a self-contradicting idiot. I amazed you can even write you religious moron!

For you to make this claim is analogous to claiming that you don’t believe a flipped coin will land HEADS or TAILS (Kenny might call the toss – BLUE!). You are insane, what else can I tell you?

thaifoodkenny:
It's not denial, it is a fact that I don't believe in free-will or gods. Just because it's beyond your tiny little mind to understand more than 2 possibilities doesn't mean that I have to succumb to your dichotomy.

When I force you to pretend that you don’t believe in anything then you have succumbed. Either you can explain what you believe or you cannot. The fact that you won’t even try tells me that you are scared and embarrassed about your beliefs. You should be.

This arguement has been shown to be false so many times that I don't understand why you haven't figured out that it is false yet. Oh, I know why, because you are a fundamentalist, insane, commie-troll!

Really? You mean that someone actually PROVED that you DO NOT OBEY The Laws of Physics??? WOW A-Theist, I wonder why you didn’t repost this amazing proof? Have you applied to win the Randi prize yet you stupid buffoon? Why not? Being able to disobey TLOP would definitely qualify for the prize!!

Thaifood, you are one of the stupidest A-theist on this forum. You are seriously delusional. You should get yourself some professional help. Please don’t jump off the roof of any tall building because you have convinced yourself that you don’t obey the laws of physics and can therefore fly.

Franko: (Logical Deist)
What is making the decision according to You anyway religious fanatic?"
" There is no YOU according to A-Theism, YOU are just your physical brain, and your brain is simply atoms obeying the same rules that all chemicals obey. "

Thaifoodkenny: (A-Theist Imbecile)
A combination of many physical factors. So many physical factors that I may as well use a free-will model.

Not just the brain, but the sum and perception of all my experiences as well.

So you are claiming that you have a “Soul”? I thought that your brain, your perceptions, and your “experiences” are all just the result of the atoms in your brain and simple chemistry? What is the mechanism of “free will”? What or Where is the YOU? How does the YOU get control over The Laws of Physics and magically alter the natural processes of chemistry?

If the atoms in your brain are magically acting beyond the scope of The Laws of Physics, then why hasn’t anyone discovered or proven this yet? Where is the evidence that the Atoms in your brain are not obeying the same ordinary laws of physics that ALL other atoms obey?

What is your reason for believing this contradictory pessimistic nonsense A-Theist? The only "benefit" I can see is that you could claim there would be no consequences for your actions. But really that is only a "benefit" if you happen to be a dishonest self-serving liar who likes to burn his hand on the hot stove for fun.
 
alfaniner said:
Evidently S&S learned a new word today ("charlatan"). [SIZE=-21]Wasn't he the guy in The Ten Commandments?[/SIZE]



Distress you a little charlatan. And learn a little more . Charlatan is the same word in spanish, also means a person like you: just bla , bla, bla.

Thanks,
S&S
 
thaiboxerken said:


So , you are a charlatan and a liar. You accused me that I wrote that the entire forum is a cult.


Really? I said you called the forum a cult, meaning anyone that actually admire's Randi's work. There is no cult here, you can't even show evidence of a leader. You can try this red-herring tactic all you want, but you still have no evidence that I'm in a cult.


Enjoy your charlatan's cult of pseudo skeptics and true beleivers.

Thanks,
S&S


Not a pseudo-skeptic, I'm a skeptic and non-believer. I believe in no gods, no fantasy, no mythology or the existence of supernatural and paranormal things. Your insult tactics are a vain attempt to try and shift the skepticism towards the skeptics because you have NO EVIDENCE of your gods or paranormal events.

You quoted that I called the entire forum a cult.You are a liar.

You are a charlatan. You are not able to put the evidence.

You are part of the charlatan's cult. Just bla bla bla and no evidences. Is your style, and you have to live with that: charlatan.

Thanks,
S&S
 
S&S said:


Distress you a little charlatan. And learn a little more . Charlatan is the same word in spanish, also means a person like you: just bla , bla, bla.

Thanks,
S&S

That's very interesting.

Tell me Carlos, what do you call a creep that will try to exploit a tragedy? We call them creeps.

I'm curious, after you were on TV did you discover that a little publicity is good for an artist?

<font size="+1">Video Clip of the Day</font>



<TABLE>
<TR>
<TD ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="TOP">
WorldTrade01.jpg


<A HREF="http://home.austin.rr.com/bluemonk/movies/WorldTrade01.avi">
WorldTrade01.avi</A> 2118 KB

</TD>


<TD>
Here we have an angle provided by CNN.



This shot is interesting for two reasons. First, it is from an angle very similar to the shot in question. Second, it captures a number of birds in flight. It is interesting to note how similar they look to the image in question and it is also interesting to note the altitude they are flying at.



Most importantly, of course, it is quite clear that there is no large dark object passing through or even near either tower.

</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>



I'll be posting new videos daily.



Be sure to check out my new web-site Creeps who exploit tragedies.
 


No there aren’t. If there were other “choices” you would have listed them.


I did. Here are a few of them... belief in a god AND free-will, no beliefs in god OR free-will, belief in a god and limited-free-will, no belief in a god and limited-free will.


Some Christians, but apparently not all. For example, aside from myself (and I am not a Christian anyway) you have muscleman, annadee, jedi, and gentlehorse, all acknowledged theists, and all acknowledged disbelievers in your “free willy” god.


Yes, but this shows that your dichotomy is false.

Besides since when is Christian belief empirical evidence about the nature of reality?

It's not, but we're talking about beliefs in general, not empirically-based conclusions.


Like I said you are a self-contradicting idiot. I amazed you can even write you religious moron!


I can write well enough to know that you missed a comma in your sentence.

For you to make this claim is analogous to claiming that you don’t believe a flipped coin will land HEADS or TAILS (Kenny might call the toss – BLUE!). You are insane, what else can I tell you?

Not even close to being a fair and accurate analogy, please try again.

When I force you to pretend that you don’t believe in anything then you have succumbed. Either you can explain what you believe or you cannot. The fact that you won’t even try tells me that you are scared and embarrassed about your beliefs. You should be.

I don't believe in a god and I don't believe in free-will.


Really? You mean that someone actually PROVED that you DO NOT OBEY The Laws of Physics??? WOW A-Theist, I wonder why you didn’t repost this amazing proof? Have you applied to win the Randi prize yet you stupid buffoon? Why not? Being able to disobey TLOP would definitely qualify for the prize!!


First demonstrate that "TLOP" have commanded me to do anything. When you have a recorded message from "TLOP" giving orders, then we can talk about a million-dollar prize.

Thaifood, you are one of the stupidest A-theist on this forum. You are seriously delusional. You should get yourself some professional help. Please don’t jump off the roof of any tall building because you have convinced yourself that you don’t obey the laws of physics and can therefore fly.

When you can convince TLOP to act as a conscious being, then we can talk about obeying TLOP in the context that you are placing it.

So you are claiming that you have a “Soul”? I thought that your brain, your perceptions, and your “experiences” are all just the result of the atoms in your brain and simple chemistry?

Yes, all my experiences and memories are turned into simple chemistry but these experiences come from outside the body. Because of these many factors, we may as well use the free-will model.

What is the mechanism of “free will”?

There is no free-will, in my opinion.

What or Where is the YOU? How does the YOU get control over The Laws of Physics and magically alter the natural processes of chemistry?

I never made this claim.

If the atoms in your brain are magically acting beyond the scope of The Laws of Physics, then why hasn’t anyone discovered or proven this yet?

They atoms in the brain are not beyond the scope of physics, they are simply beyond the scope of our knowledge though. Someday we might figure out all of the factors that make our decisions, but until then a free-will model works fine.


Where is the evidence that the Atoms in your brain are not obeying the same ordinary laws of physics that ALL other atoms obey?


I never made this claim either.
 
thaifoodkenny:

They atoms in the brain are not beyond the scope of physics, they are simply beyond the scope of our knowledge though. Someday we might figure out all of the factors that make our decisions, but until then a free-will model works fine.

The atoms in your brain are no different then any other atoms. They obey the same rules that other atoms obey. The fact that you don't know all of the rules that atoms obey doesn't mean your atoms don't obey them.

You are confusing Omniscience with Determinism, but considering it's amazing you can log onto the internet without Mommy's help, I'm not too surprised.

Essentially you are claiming that before Galileo the Earth really was Flat and Motionless, and it only became a Sphere and started orbiting the Sun after Galileo proved it.
 


The atoms in your brain are no different then any other atoms. They obey the same rules that other atoms obey. The fact that you don't know all of the rules that atoms obey doesn't mean your atoms don't obey them.


I agree except for the context in which you use the word "obey". If you can demonstrate that the laws of physics are conscious and give out orders, then maybe I'll agree with your absurd arguement.


You are confusing Omniscience with Determinism, but considering it's amazing you can log onto the internet without Mommy's help, I'm not too surprised.


Don't you have some garbage to pick up somewhere, oscar?


Essentially you are claiming that before Galileo the Earth really was Flat and Motionless, and it only became a Sphere and started orbiting the Sun after Galileo proved it.


There is no way any reasonable person can construe anything I said as meaning that the earth was ever flat or motionless.

I know what I'll do, since I'm very bored with you. I'll place you on ignore.
 
Franko
02-24-2003 05:34 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]
 
thaiboxerken said:
Franko
02-24-2003 05:34 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

The "ignore" style. Another cult's style.
Fanatic, loser, charlatan and true beleiver.

Thanks,
S&S
 
Yeah, if you can't stand the heat ...

... you're going to be in big big trouble when you get to Hell A-Theist ...
Franko:
The atoms in your brain are no different then any other atoms. They obey the same rules that other atoms obey. The fact that you don't know all of the rules that atoms obey doesn't mean your atoms don't obey them.


thaifoodkenny:
I agree except for the context in which you use the word "obey".


Ahhh, so according to your definition of the term "Obey" the atoms in your brain Do Not OBEY the laws of physics?

Like I said religious fanatic, when your cult requires you to utterly reject reality, then it is time for you to find a new cult.
 

Back
Top Bottom