The "Carlos Swett affair"

[Wyrd1]

frontal or mental

"and that don't be worry for the MONEY, that the main reason is to find the TRUTH."
This is a lie. The truth was explained to you many times and you ignore it. You can only be interested in the money. At this time I will follow the advice of others and stop feeding the Troll. Goodbye Carlos Swett. Goodbye latinijral, also Carlos Swett. You boys have fun.

 

[rwald]

Actually, some of us theorize that Carlos is interested in publicity. Remember, he always insists that Randi write about him in the commentary.

 

[CSSMariner]

Re: RANDI'S BODYGUARD

Hi CSS Mariner :

Asking for help?
Are you also afraid of me?
are you Randi's bodyguard ?
Are you a wrestler of WWA?
Are you a mafia's member?
Does the CSS in your nick stands for Carlos Swett Salas (CSS) ?
Do you have a brain or are you just a "gorilla"? Sorry for the reals gorillas.

I am still waiting .I am not afraid: losers.

Thanks,
S&S

"Help?" Not necessary
"Afraid?" Hardly
"Bodyguard?" If necessary
"Wrestler?" Ha!
"Mafia's?" ???
"CSS" = Confederate States Ship
"Gorilla Brain?" We are all decendents of a common ape, but some nut cases have experienced retarted development somewhere in their genetic background. The old world monkeys still live in the southern American continent.

I said I would be there, and that is all that is necesary for the nut cases to know.

 

[Guest]

I TOOK THIS PICTURE FROM A SCREEN (TV STATION OF CHILE)

I took this picture from the screen when i visited a local tv station on my country Chile. I follow Swett`s instructions.
I see the paranormal object traveling inthru the smoke and get in the first tower(dissapears) and then get out(appears again) with an incredible speed.

 

[rwald]

OH MY GOD!!! Did latinijral actually type new material? Did he not just quote someone else? I didn't think it was possible!!! At this rate, we should have Carlos convinced of reality in no time!

 

[Guest]

Re: I TOOK THIS PICTURE FROM A SCREEN (TV STATION OF CHILE)

I POSTED THIS MESSAGE AGAIN BECAUSE THE OFICIAL SPEAKER OF RANDI IS IN SILENCE TOO.

I took this picture from the screen when i visited a local tv station on my country Chile. I follow Swett`s instructions.
I see the paranormal object traveling inthru the smoke and get in the first tower(dissapears) and then get out(appears again) with an incredible speed.

 

[CSSMariner]

Re: I TOOK THIS PICTURE FROM A SCREEN (TV STATION OF CHILE)

I took this picture from the screen when i visited a local tv station on my country Chile. I follow Swett`s instructions.
I see the paranormal object traveling inthru the smoke and get in the first tower(dissapears) and then get out(appears again) with an incredible speed.

What an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1. We have action, as it happened, pictures of the two aircraft flying into the buildings. Two Boeing 767 airplanes caused the fires and the fires caused the buildings to collapse.

#2. The buildings were already burning when the supposed "Paranormal object," what ever the hell that means, was captured on digital cameras "flying through the buildings." The buildings were already on fire. If the "Paranormal object" did the damage, the smoke got into the air in anticipation of the object.

#3. The object is a bird flying through the range of the camera and very close to the photographer and creating the black streak. We can duplicate the phenomena. The same crap was presented by other equally gullible individuals for "Rods" that flew through pictures. There is nothing paranormal about it, other than the idiotic ideas of believers in same.

#4. Randi and the JREF are not "silent" about Swett's claim, it was further ridiculed on the internet radio show last Thursday. I know because I was there participating. When the archives are posted, I am "Ken." We all got a good laugh out of Senor Swett's claim.

#5. Now let's depart from reality into the paranormal for a nanosecond, no more, and say that Senor Swett actually saw what he claims. That means he had nothing to do with the paranormal object, as he only saw it on TV. Now we all know that everything we see on TV is real, HA! BS!!!!!!. That means that Senor Swett did not have any part in the action, did not cause them to fly through the buildings, did not direct them, in fact did nothing. So why is he in anticipation of winning anything????

Get a life folks!!!!!

The only thing you deserve is ridicule and laughter, but you do provide some entertainment on this end, we all need a good laugh at times.

 

[Guest]

THE BODYGUARD'S FUNCTION

What an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1. We have action, as it happened, pictures of the two aircraft flying into the buildings. Two Boeing 767 airplanes caused the fires and the fires caused the buildings to collapse.

#2. The buildings were already burning when the supposed "Paranormal object," what ever the hell that means, was captured on digital cameras "flying through the buildings." The buildings were already on fire. If the "Paranormal object" did the damage, the smoke got into the air in anticipation of the object.

#3. The object is a bird flying through the range of the camera and very close to the photographer and creating the black streak. We can duplicate the phenomena. The same crap was presented by other equally gullible individuals for "Rods" that flew through pictures. There is nothing paranormal about it, other than the idiotic ideas of believers in same.

#4. Randi and the JREF are not "silent" about Swett's claim, it was further ridiculed on the internet radio show last Thursday. I know because I was there participating. When the archives are posted, I am "Ken." We all got a good laugh out of Senor Swett's claim.

#5. Now let's depart from reality into the paranormal for a nanosecond, no more, and say that Senor Swett actually saw what he claims. That means he had nothing to do with the paranormal object, as he only saw it on TV. Now we all know that everything we see on TV is real, HA! BS!!!!!!. That means that Senor Swett did not have any part in the action, did not cause them to fly through the buildings, did not direct them, in fact did nothing. So why is he in anticipation of winning anything????

Get a life folks!!!!!

The only thing you deserve is ridicule and laughter, but you do provide some entertainment on this end, we all need a good laugh at times.

Hi CSS Mariner:

You said you were a member of Randi's bodyguard.
As I know bodyguards have a job to do: laugh when his boss laugh, cry when his boss tell them to do it, but mainly protect the boss.

But YOU mariner , just entered in this thread and made a big mistake : or you didn't read the application and Harter¡s poor answer or you read but you didn't understand your reading.

Let your boss write about Swett's challenge because what you are assuming tells what your really job is about: protection and the use of violence. I know is a well paid job and legal, but please concentrate in your "instint"like a real bodyguard.
Or if you can , read again and don't forget that the best part is to understand my application.

Thanks (or thank you)
S&S

 

[rwald]

Originally posted by S&S
you didn't read the application and Harter¡s poor answer or you read but you didn't understand your reading.

You don't understand how ironic it is for you to say this, Carlos. You apparently haven't ever read the rules, or if you have, you "didn't understand your reading." But still, you think you can blame someone else for being unable to read! This is hilarious!

 

[Dr. Imago]

Originally posted by S&S
But YOU mariner , just entered in this thread and made a big mistake : or you didn't read the application and Harter¡s poor answer or you read but you didn't understand your reading.
...

Thanks (or thank you)
S&S

Phil? Is this Phil Hendrie? Come on "Carlos", 'fess up!

Nonetheless... Hasn't this been going on long enough? What satisfaction do you hope to get by continuing this sad debacle? It's not even funny anymore. Do you think you're winning? Or, are you having a fantastically good laugh at all our expense? Either way, enough is enough. I left this discussion, it seems like, weeks ago and you still haven't gotten anywhere. This is no longer humorous, entertaining, or even worthwhile. It's just pathetic. And, you're wasting precious server space.

 

[CSSMariner]

Re: THE BODYGUARD'S FUNCTION

Hi CSS Mariner:

You said you were a member of Randi's bodyguard.
As I know bodyguards have a job to do: laugh when his boss laugh, cry when his boss tell them to do it, but mainly protect the boss.

S&S

I am a volunteer at the JREF, therefore if I have a "Boss" it is myself. I am not a hired bodyguard, but if the occasion should arise, I have no problem performing the function. I laugh so much that I cry at such stupidity as the claim of "Paranormal" things flying through the WTC Towers.

But YOU mariner , just entered in this thread and made a big mistake : or you didn't read the application and Harter¡s poor answer or you read but you didn't understand your reading.

I understand that claims of "Paranormal" things are pure BS!!!!!

Let your boss write about Swett's challenge because what you are assuming tells what your really job is about: protection and the use of violence. I know is a well paid job and legal, but please concentrate in your "instint"like a real bodyguard.
Or if you can , read again and don't forget that the best part is to understand my application.



Thanks (or thank you)


As I said, I am a volunteer, and a paid member of the JREF, and receive no compensation other than the pleasure of Randi's company and friendship of other like-minded people at the JREF. If I am well paid, it is from my own company, and none of your business. What is "instint" by the way? I don't have to read such nonsense to know from the very start that the writer is a fool.

 

[RichardR]

Reminder

(Don't feed the trolls.)

This was a public service announcement.

 

[Guest]

RETURN TO THE "OLD TIMES"

Phil? Is this Phil Hendrie? Come on "Carlos", 'fess up!

Nonetheless... Hasn't this been going on long enough? What satisfaction do you hope to get by continuing this sad debacle? It's not even funny anymore. Do you think you're winning? Or, are you having a fantastically good laugh at all our expense? Either way, enough is enough. I left this discussion, it seems like, weeks ago and you still haven't gotten anywhere. This is no longer humorous, entertaining, or even worthwhile. It's just pathetic. And, you're wasting precious server space.

Hi Third Twin:

You are correct. I repect you. YOu made me reasonable questions before and all of them were answerd by me.

You NEVER used the insult as an arm and I did the same to you and to the members that were in that position.

But try to understand me now, all I receive is a bunch of insutts and no reasonable or debating arguments as you did.
The one who started this PATHETIC kind of debate at this thread was "thatguywhojuggles" and was followed by the guys of who I named as the ABC. Is a fact , I only respond them with their same arms.

BUT the real person who started this PATHETIC kind of debate, was JAMES RANDi , and you know he FIRST started the insults at his first e-mail, the second person was ANDREW HARTER with his answer fuull of lies and how he used a poor method to aanalize the tape.

I am the first person dissapointed of the kind of persons (not all) I met at this thread, their low culture and education, not arguments to make a real debate, no objectives, more concerned in the rules than in wactching debate if what I was claiming is true or not. That is really PATHETIC.

The MAIN REASON for being still here is that is demostrated that HARTER gave me a n answer full of lies , JAMES RANDI insulted me first with no reason.
At least what a man who lies to another one and that presumes to be honest can do, is GIVE ME PRIVATE OR PUBLIC EXCUSES.
That is what honor is about .
How can we start to idealize a new world?
BE HONEST FIRST.

Thanks Third twin for your mature words, I am tired too, I miss the hours I should be spending with my family, but when you fight for the honor of your name you can sacrifice time.
The money means nothing to me, and you know it.

Thank YOU (thanks)

S&S

P.S. Who is Phil Hendrie?

 

[CSSMariner]

Good idea Richard, not to feed the trolls that is. Piss off Carlos et all. You are not wirth the sweat, or Swett that is, from my cajones.

 

[Guest]

Thanks third Twin

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Originally posted by ThirdTwin


Phil? Is this Phil Hendrie? Come on "Carlos", 'fess up!

Nonetheless... Hasn't this been going on long enough? What satisfaction do you hope to get by continuing this sad debacle? It's not even funny anymore. Do you think you're winning? Or, are you having a fantastically good laugh at all our expense? Either way, enough is enough. I left this discussion, it seems like, weeks ago and you still haven't gotten anywhere. This is no longer humorous, entertaining, or even worthwhile. It's just pathetic. And, you're wasting precious server space.
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Hi Third Twin:

You are correct. I repect you. YOu made me reasonable questions before and all of them were answerd by me.

You NEVER used the insult as an arm and I did the same to you and to the members that were in that position.

But try to understand me now, all I receive is a bunch of insutts and no reasonable or debating arguments as you did.
The one who started this PATHETIC kind of debate at this thread was "thatguywhojuggles" and was followed by the guys of who I named as the ABC. Is a fact , I only respond them with their same arms.

BUT the real person who started this PATHETIC kind of debate, was JAMES RANDi , and you know he FIRST started the insults at his first e-mail, the second person was ANDREW HARTER with his answer fuull of lies and how he used a poor method to aanalize the tape.

I am the first person dissapointed of the kind of persons (not all) I met at this thread, their low culture and education, not arguments to make a real debate, no objectives, more concerned in the rules than in wactching debate if what I was claiming is true or not. That is really PATHETIC.

The MAIN REASON for being still here is that is demostrated that HARTER gave me a n answer full of lies , JAMES RANDI insulted me first with no reason.
At least what a man who lies to another one and that presumes to be honest can do, is GIVE ME PRIVATE OR PUBLIC EXCUSES.
That is what honor is about .
How can we start to idealize a new world?
BE HONEST FIRST.

Thanks Third twin for your mature words, I am tired too, I miss the hours I should be spending with my family, but when you fight for the honor of your name you can sacrifice time.
The money means nothing to me, and you know it.

Thank YOU (thanks)

S&S

P.S. Who is Phil Hendrie?


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" We never said that it must have been a bird, or that Harter's guess must have been correct. All we're saying is that it was almost certainly a natural phenomanon, not a paranormal one". Rwald

 

[CWL]

Thanks

Thanks (or thank you)

Thank YOU (thanks)

Great, you're definetely making progress! I would say that you're getting there... however, still not 100 % accurate. A simple "Thank you" will suffice - no signature. Like so:

Thank you.

 

[Guest]

NO COMMENTS ABOUT SWETT, WHY???

Randi`s comments on the forum: Friday 27, September




Rwald, Patricio Elicer and CSS Mariner about Randi`s comments on the radio: Thursday 26, September:

Speaking of the "amazing silence"...

Last night, I emailed Randi's radio show about Carlos Swett. Randi mocked Carlos, and said, "Carlos, you're wrong, you're an idiot." He also commented that if Carlos had above a 3rd grade reading level, he might have been able to understand the rules. Now, I agree that Randi was insulting Carlos. There's no question about that. The key point is, Randi certainly was not silent about Carlos. So, all of Carlos's arguments about Randi's silence are completely unfounded.

Just like all the rest of Carlos's arguments.

rwald
Corresponding Secretary of the Association of Brilliant Chaps


Thanks rwald for clarifying that point. I heard Randi's response, but I kept wondering about who sent the e-mail

Patricio Elicer


Randi and the JREF are not "silent" about Swett's claim, it was further ridiculed on the internet radio show last Thursday. I know because I was there participating. When the archives are posted, I am "Ken." We all got a good laugh out of Senor Swett's claim.


Apication recieved: april 4 Randi open his mouth: september 26(???)
Who are the liars and the chickens??????????????????????????????????????????????

I POSTED THIS MESSAGE AGAIN BECAUSE THE OFICIAL SPEAKER OF RANDI IS IN SILENCE TOO.



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Originally posted by latinijral
I took this picture from the screen when i visited a local tv station on my country Chile. I follow Swett`s instructions.
I see the paranormal object traveling inthru the smoke and get in the first tower(dissapears) and then get out(appears again) with an incredible speed.
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[Guest]

THANK YOU or THANKS

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Great, you're definetely making progress! I would say that you're getting there... however, still not 100 % accurate. A simple "Thank you" will suffice - no signature. Like so:

Thank you. [/B]

Hi CWL:

I "think" you are most worried of my english. I appreciate your advice at that point. But remember english is not my native language. I already explained that in a reply to DE-BUNK

When I wrote in all my posts "thanks" was directed to ALL THE MEMBERS who read this thread, not to a specific one.

Is that correct or I should said it in another way?

I "supposed " also, that you have a definition about the legal part but mainly to what I am claiming on the video, and the poor answer Harter gave me with the aprooval of James Randi.

Thank you CWL, or

Thanks,

S&S

 

[CWL]

"Thank you" will work fine for those purposes as "you" is in fact both singular and plural. The phrase "Thank you" would thus certainly qualify as a sign of gratitute directed to any and all members of this forum. Not only that, but in addition thereto the phrase would add a certain - let's call it - "quality stamp" as to your assertions, well know to the readers of this thread who will recall the postings of a certain Japanese claimant.

Thank you.

 

[Guest]

JAPANESE?

"Thank you" will work fine for those purposes as "you" is in fact both singular and plural. The phrase "Thank you" would thus certainly qualify as a sing of gratitute directed to any and all members of this forum. In addition thereto the phrase would add a certain - let's call it - "quality stamp" as to your assertions, well know to the readers of this thread who will recall the postings of a certain Japanese claimant.

Thank you.

Hi again CWL:

So I was not wrong , I said "thanks" because Is directed to "all the members", besides this thread have MY NAME on it.

I fight only for my honor, I don´t like lies or insults that have my name involved on it. And that goes specially to ANDREW HARTER and JAMES RANDI.

That was the way I was educated and that is the way I educate my children. We can debate with reasonable arguments but if someone uses the "troll method" I have a fine irony to beat them also.

No. I am not japanese. I am proud to be from a peaceful country :ECUADOR, and from a city that opens his port to everyone in the world: GUAYAQUIL.
And I will more proud the day the frontiers, wars and ignorance dissappear from this still beautiful planet.

Thank you CWL

Thanks.

S&S