The "Carlos Swett affair"

[Guest]

Paranoid Iggy

Carlos, Thank you for posting the new picture on the Skeptic's Forum under your new ID (The Bird. How droll!) It has been deleted and your new ID banned as Wyrd1 said it would be.

Hi IggyK:

Are you the same "administrator " of the msn Skeptics Forum?
Are you the same I thanked to you and your forum when I started posting here at the JREF?
Are you the same who was worried because I came to the JREF? Are you the same that banned me without a reason?

Now in an excess of your paranoid you are accusing me of "posting a picture under a newID".

People, here and eveverywhere knows that I always identify myself, I am not hiding anything , I am just fighting because I received a poor answer from the JREF of the application I send to
them. That´s all.

And I am now doing the same in the "house of Randi" at the JREF forum with members of a "high degre" as you said (now I see that you all at the Skeptics Forum were members of "low degree").

Control your paranoid, I don't have time to post at your forum now, besides I was banned as you said, so give me a reason to waste my time with you all loosers.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Guest]

Re: Paranoid Iggy

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I am just fighting because I received a poor answer from the JREF of the application I send to
them.
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So why post here? Harter and Randi, it is safe to say, almost NEVER read these boards, nor should they.

Mail them, call them, stop by their place, etc. etc.

Right now, you sound like you got the answer you didn't want to hear regarding your 'claim'.

1. take it like a man

2. you didn't understand the Challenge as written down

3. go debate with Franko about logical deism

 

[Guest]

WHY HERE ?

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I am just fighting because I received a poor answer from the JREF of the application I send to
them.
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So why post here? Harter and Randi, it is safe to say, almost NEVER read these boards, nor should they.

Mail them, call them, stop by their place, etc. etc.

Right now, you sound like you got the answer you didn't want to hear regarding your 'claim'.

1. take it like a man

2. you didn't understand the Challenge as written down

3. go debate with Franko about logical deism

Hi Whodini :

Thank you for your advice, but I must clear some interpretations you are making:

1. I didn´t post this thread,was Patricio Elicer who throw the stone and hided his hand.

I asked LINDA if I can post in this thread after 30 messages on it, I thanked her for giving me the chance to make a defense of my honor and name.

I am man enough to debate in any subject you want, but in this case I am the person who challenged JREf and received from them a poor answer based in a poor method. I am sure you are man enough to fight against injustice, too.

2. Yes, I understood the challenge, I did all the requirements, JREf received my application and tape, and based on it Andrew Harter gave me the strange answer in which he NEVER said my application was not valid.

Of course I mailed J. Randi , but the only thing I received from him was insults and the block of my e-mail, also I was acussed of "flooding or something lyke that" (I never did it and I don´t know how) and my last e-mail was closed by hotmail.
I was sure that Randi, Harter and Linda are the moderators of this forum, so only in your interpretation can be that they NEVER read the posts.

I have the hope that someday they will talk about this thread and specially about my notarized application and the answer they gave me, and just because YOU ALL members of this forum deserves that.

3.I never heard about Franko, Is he a product of the multimedia too?

I hope all these clarifications help you in your next judgements.

Thanks again,
S&S

 

[rwald]

Originally posted by S&S
Yes, I understood the challenge, I did all the requirements

No, you didn't. You didn't understand that only a demonstration of paranormal powers qualifies for the challenge, and you didn't complete the first requirement. It's that simple.

rwald
Corresponding Secretary of the Association of Brilliant Chaps (ABC)

 

[Guest]

THE BRAINLESS CLOWN

No, you didn't. You didn't understand that only a demonstration of paranormal powers qualifies for the challenge, and you didn't complete the first requirement. It's that simple.

rwald
Corresponding Secretary of the Association of Brilliant Chaps (ABC)

Rwald:

You are most worried on the "stupid poll " you made and in the votes you got on it. As I said before you are not the "biggest clown" , you are the "brainless clown".
Try to be not repetitive, be original if you can.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Shaun from Scotland]

Sore loser/winner

 

[rwald]

If you won't listen to a word I say, do I have any choice but to repeat myself?

rwald
Corresponding Secretary of the Association of Brilliant Chaps (ABC)

 

[Shaun from Scotland]

Notice how he completely avoids the issue Rwald?

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: SMALL SAMPLE TAKEN FROM THIS THREAD

 

[Charlie in Dayton]

Re: Re: Re: SMALL SAMPLE TAKEN FROM THIS THREAD

If I read it right, latinijral's sig line refers to the question about why Randi hasn't publicized Carlos's claim.

This confirms my thinking to a small degree in my opinion, that this whole thing is nothing more than an attempt for some publicity.

 

[Guest]

TWO FACES

If I read it right, latinijral's sig line refers to the question about why Randi hasn't publicized Carlos's claim.

This confirms my thinking to a small degree in my opinion, that this whole thing is nothing more than an attempt for some publicity.

Charie of Dayton (El Cid) :

Are you really thinking now?

Do you really think that?

Are you the same person that said to me that was going to check the video at some friends that work at a tv broadcast?

Are you the same that I am waiting for your "investigation"?
Publicity of what kind?

Of telling the truth about a poor answer received from the JREF about my application?

Of the silence of Harter and Randi about my challenge and the poor method they used?

I am here at randi's forum "twofaces" Chalie of Dayton", And I am not telling this in another stupid and charlatans web site. I didn't post the thread. I don't have a web page.

Publicity??????? and you think you are thinking.

I hope this case will be expose at the "amazing meeting" using the correct methods, so you all can tell who is afraid.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Charlie in Dayton]

Re: TWO FACES

OK, here we go...

Charie of Dayton (El Cid) :

First of all, get the spelling right on my name.

Are you really thinking now?

Do you really think that?

Read my post again, Carlos...I said "...This confirms my thinking to a small degree in my opinion...", referring to the signature line. It makes no reference whatever to your claim and video evidence, and it's deliberately misleading to claim that it did.

Are you the same person that said to me that was going to check the video at some friends that work at a tv broadcast?

Yes, I am the same person. I haven't seen the evidence yet, and on that basis have not ruled out the possibility of changing my mind once I've seen it.

Are you the same that I am waiting for your "investigation"?

Yes, that's me. As I told you before, one of my sources has family on the Gulf Coast, right in the path of the tropical storm that's coming ashore tomorrow. I'm not going to bother him with this now; he's got more urgent things on his mind. The other source, I've lost touch with over the last couple of years, and it's going to take some time to reestablish that relationship. As far as you waiting, you're going to have to wait. The world doesn't run on your personal schedule.

Publicity of what kind?

Oh, let's see here...you're running around shouting to whoever will listen that Randi won't publicly speak about your claim...why should he? You're the one who's demanding they speak out about you. That sounds like publicity to me. What kind? Beneficial to you; it makes you look like the injured party.

Of telling the truth about a poor answer received from the JREF about my application?

Here we go again. An answer you don't agree with is not necessarily a poor one. The answer you got matched the facts. Your claim to the Million Dollar Challenge doesn't match the requirements. I quote in total Section 1 of the Million Dollar Challenge Rules:

1.Applicant must state clearly in advance, and applicant and JREF will agree upon, what powers or abilities will be demonstrated, the limits of the proposed demonstration (so far as time, location and other variables are concerned) and what will constitute both a positive and a negative result. This is the primary and most important of these rules.

Okay, what power/ability do you claim? To see an unidentified blur on a videotape? That's normal eyesight, nothing paranormal. What will constitute a positive or negative result of testing? Yup, there's something on the tape, and we're not sure what it is. I see that unidentified blur, too. On that basis, I could file a co-claim with yours and apply for a fast half-million...of course, everyone who reads this will get in on the act, and by the time it's over, we're goint to get about $1.35 apiece...
Face it, Carlos, you haven't personally claimed abilities out of the ordinary...and claiming that the unidentified blur is something paranormal is something that you haven't proved.

Of the silence of Harter and Randi about my challenge and the poor method they used?

Why are they obligated to speak out in public about this claim? They responded to you, and that was all that was required. Why do you want them to proclaim to the world that your application is not valid (or however they phrased it)? Why do you want them to publicize this matter? Why do you want publicity?

I am here at randi's forum "twofaces" Chalie of Dayton", And I am not telling this in another stupid and charlatans web site. I didn't post the thread. I don't have a web page.

Again, get the name right.
Why do you constantly refer to me in the IRC chat room, and again above, as two-faced/twofaces/etc?
I agreed to listen to what you had to say, and to view the tape (assuming I could find it). As far as who posted the thread, their opinion is their opinion. My posting or not posting to it says nothing about whether I agree with them or not. You make an unwarranted presumption. And while you don't have a web page, apparently you have no objection if others establish them for you, complete with inflammatory page names such as "Is James Randi A Liar?".

Publicity??????? and you think you are thinking.

Yes, I am thinking, and what I'm thinking is that your actions to this point have nothing to do with researching the paranormal, but have much to do with publicizing you.

I hope this case will be expose at the "amazing meeting" using the correct methods, so you all can tell who is afraid.

I hope the same thing, Carlos. Let's get it out in the open. Come to Florida. Bring your evidence. Play the tape. Let everyone make up their mind.
If you were truly interested in doing this, your efforts would have been focused in that direction instead of whining about how you've been mistreated.

Thanks,
S&S

Your post was quoted in total, unedited. I responded.

Now, I'm going to take you to task for how you've treated me. Insults, both here and in the chat room (and I've logged what was posted there; it's available as a text file for anyone who wants it, from session opening to close); insults in English, and apparently in Spanish. You decide to have little side conversations in another language at my expense with latinijral; my Spanish is very poor, but I do recognize a few words, and they were uncomplimentary at best.

Speaking of latinijral, it would be best for your cause if you reined your sock puppet in. He's not helping you prove your case. The establishment of that aforementioned web page Is James Randi A Liar? has pictures of the documentation sent to the Foundation, but nothing from them in response. The pictures of "The Association of Brainless Clowns" is a nice little Photoshop essay, but otherwise detracts from the cause; there's no other defense of the claim than to make fun of those who don't agree? Not professional in any case.

Carlos, your smug, self-righteous, intellectually superior attitude is taxing at best. Your constant demands for answers to questions without specifying what the questions are is irritating. Your refusal to answer questions posed to you is rude. Your insistence that things happen on your schedule is insufferable.

Your claim to the Million Dollar Challenge has been ruled invalid, by those who administer the Challenge, and according to the rules of the Challenge.

Your claim that something paranormal is occuring on the videotape is extremely if not fatally weak.
You have to do better than this.

 

[Shaun from Scotland]

That is a very poor post Charlie, considering the nature of this thread. It is:

A/ Rational and considered

B/ Deals with points in a clear and coherant manner


S&S wont understand a word of it...................

 

[Lucifuge Rofocale]

I just received this email. I couldn't stop laughting. My original email is below


Saludos peruano maricòn:

Como te daràs cuenta he dejado pasar el tiempo para contestarte como te mereces mediocre perro de farsantes mentirosos como James Randi y Andrew Harter.

Fui yo, Guillermo Swett, quien decidiò compartir la informaciòn del reto oficial de mi hermano Carlos Swett utilizando mi email, no el de èl.
Me sorprende que tù no estabas en la lista de correo que elaborè, lo que significa que algùn otro perro te fue con el chisme y como puedo apreciar tu firmas como miembro de la fundaciòn JREF, deduzco que Randi te diò como tarea desmentir el reto de mi hermano.

Como experto en computaciòn hiciste 2 porquerìas dignas de una gallina sin cerebro:
1. Eliminar el email de mi hermano Carlos aduciendo que hizo "spamming", recuerda que el email se hizo desde mi email, y asì evitar que se contacten con mi hermano personas interesadas en el tema. Te saliò mal tu jugarreta porque igual se han contactado con èl a su nuevo email.
2. Enviarme un virus a mi computadora con el fin de elminar mi outlook express y mi conexiòn a internet, lo que lograste con èxito, pero como soy prevenido, respaldè mi informaciòn.

Para confirmar que eres gallina, el tema de mi hermano lo publicò una gallina chilena llamada Patricio Elicer en los foros de Randi, y de ahì el tema ha sido tratado en extenso. Para sorpresa tù apareces como miembro del foro, pero como eres ahuevado, no te atreves a escribir ahì.

Se confirma tambièn que tus ìdolos de barro, Randi y Harter, no tienen el valor de escirbir algo razonable, mejor dicho no dicen nada, y peor, no van a tener las agallas de poner en su comentario semanal el reto de mi hermano Carlos, debido a que han demostrado ser pobres profesionales en resolver un simple reto, pero sì han demostrado ser excelentes profesionales para recibir donaciones al por mayor de tarados como tù.

Guillermo Swett

P.D: ◊◊◊◊ you JREF member, mofletudo


-------Original Message-------

From: Lucifuge Rofocale
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:46:08 AM
To: Guillermo Swett
Subject: Re: THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT JREF, JAMES RANDI AND A ONE MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL CHALLENGE

I feel very sorry for James Randi. To have to deal with this kind of lunatics every day would give me a terrible headache.
You have answered your own question:


>I AM GLAD THAT NOW YOU CAN SEE "THE DARK OBJECT" AT >SOME POINTS AGAINST THE
>SMOKE, WITH SOME DIFFICULTS, BUT IT IS THERE. THOSE ARE >YOUR WORDS.

>YOU SAID: A BIRD COULD CERTAINLY BE THE CULPRIT.
>¿WHY A BIRD, AND NOT AN INSECT?
>¿WHAT KIND OF BIRD?
>¿A PARANORMAL BIRD?
>REMEMBER THAT I TOLD YOU ON MY DEMAND THAT IT CAN NOT BE A BIRD OR AN
INSECT, BECAUSE THE IMAGE OF IT DOESN`T LAY ON TOP THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE
>HOLE OF THE FIRST TOWER AND "SEEMS" TO APPEARS FROM BEHIND THE TOWER.


>YOU SAID: YOU HAVE NO CLAIM???????????????????????????
>YOU SAID: THERE IS SOMETHING SUPERNATURAL TAKING >PLACE??????????????'
>I SAY: ¿WHO ARE YOU?
>I SAY: YOU ARE NOT A REALLY RESEARCHER, YOU DIDN`T DEMONSTRATE NOTHING, YOU
ARE LIAR. YOU DON`T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH OR YOU CAN NOT SAY THE TRUTH. YOU
ARE THINKING IN THE MONEY. FORGET ABOUT THE MONEY IF THAT IS YOUR REAL
PROBLEM.


Are you so stupid? You are asking Randi to prove the supposed paranormal effect for you!. What a moron you are. When the frame by frame image shows that you are plain wrong you ask him to look at it in a TV studio!
And, BTW can you READ the Million dollar challenge specifications? You have to past a pre-test and then the real test and the conditions of the test would be worked in agreement with both parties. You have made your setup, defined your test procedure by yourself and then bitching like the delusional lunatic you are. Randi is too politely to tell you what you really deserve: ◊◊◊◊ You.

Lucifuge Rofocale

 

[rwald]

Could you post an English translation of that here? I could try to translate it myself, but it's easier to ask you to do it than to do it myself ;-).

 

[Lucifuge Rofocale]

Could you post an English translation of that here? I could try to translate it myself, but it's easier to ask you to do it than to do it myself ;-).

I tought that every american speak spanish

Here it goes



Greetings, peruvian faggot.


As you can see I have waited to answer as you deserve, mediocre dog of liers like JR and AH.


It was me, Guillermo Swett, who decided to share info about the official challenge of my brother Carlos using my email, not his.

I'm surprised because you weren't in the distribution list I made, wich means that some other dog told you the gadget. And, AFAIKS, i deduct that Randi gave you the job to debunk my brother's challenge.

As computer expert you did 2 evil acts like a brainless chicken:

1.- Eliminate my brothers email claiming that it is spamming , remember that it was send from my email address, so you can avoid people interested in that affair contact him. Your trick went wrong because people has contacted him at his new email.

2.- Send a virus to my computer to eliminate Outlook and my internet conection, what you succeded. But as I'm such a smart person, I had backups.


To confirm that you are a chicken, my brother's challenge was published by a chilean chicken named Patricio Elicer on Randi's forums, and was heavily debated. My surprise is that you appear as member of the forum, but you didn't dare to write there like the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ you are.

It's also confirmed that your mud Idols, Randi and Harter, dont have the guts to write something reasonable, and worse they won't put the challeng in his weekly column because they have shown that they are poor profesionals into solving a simple challenge, but excellent profesional to get massive donations from stupids like you.

Guillermo Swett

P.D: ◊◊◊◊ you JREF member, mofletudo


--------------------

Saludos peruano maricòn:

Como te daràs cuenta he dejado pasar el tiempo para contestarte como te mereces mediocre perro de farsantes mentirosos como James Randi y Andrew Harter.

Fui yo, Guillermo Swett, quien decidiò compartir la informaciòn del reto oficial de mi hermano Carlos Swett utilizando mi email, no el de èl.
Me sorprende que tù no estabas en la lista de correo que elaborè, lo que significa que algùn otro perro te fue con el chisme y como puedo apreciar tu firmas como miembro de la fundaciòn JREF, deduzco que Randi te diò como tarea desmentir el reto de mi hermano.

Como experto en computaciòn hiciste 2 porquerìas dignas de una gallina sin cerebro:
1. Eliminar el email de mi hermano Carlos aduciendo que hizo "spamming", recuerda que el email se hizo desde mi email, y asì evitar que se contacten con mi hermano personas interesadas en el tema. Te saliò mal tu jugarreta porque igual se han contactado con èl a su nuevo email.
2. Enviarme un virus a mi computadora con el fin de elminar mi outlook express y mi conexiòn a internet, lo que lograste con èxito, pero como soy prevenido, respaldè mi informaciòn.

Para confirmar que eres gallina, el tema de mi hermano lo publicò una gallina chilena llamada Patricio Elicer en los foros de Randi, y de ahì el tema ha sido tratado en extenso. Para sorpresa tù apareces como miembro del foro, pero como eres ahuevado, no te atreves a escribir ahì.

Se confirma tambièn que tus ìdolos de barro, Randi y Harter, no tienen el valor de escirbir algo razonable, mejor dicho no dicen nada, y peor, no van a tener las agallas de poner en su comentario semanal el reto de mi hermano Carlos, debido a que han demostrado ser pobres profesionales en resolver un simple reto, pero sì han demostrado ser excelentes profesionales para recibir donaciones al por mayor de tarados como tù.

Guillermo Swett

P.D: ◊◊◊◊ you JREF member, mofletudo

 

[Patricio Elicer]

Well, I had remained silent on all this stuff since the day I realized it was pointless to continue. In my opinion the debate became circular long ago, and it's very likely that no positive insight will ever come out of it.

And even worse, we have now entered the "insult stage". It's obvious that nothing interesting or positive will ever result from an insult exchange.

But now a new element has been added. It seems that Swett and Lucifuge Rofocale have been holding a private mail exchange since the early days of this thread or perhaps even before it was born. I really don't know what's been hapenning on this regard, Lucifuge should clear things up for us.

Swett is obviously annoyed and he's shooting insults in every direction. Just to illustrate this fact, let me translate part of his letter to Lucifuge:

Para confirmar que eres gallina, el tema de mi hermano lo publicò una gallina chilena llamada Patricio Elicer en los foros de Randi, y de ahì el tema ha sido tratado en extenso. Para sorpresa tù apareces como miembro del foro, pero como eres ahuevado, no te atreves a escribir ahì.

would translate as:

To confirm that you are a chicken, [notice that] my brother's subject was published on Randi's forums by a Chilean chicken named Patricio Elicer, and has extensively been treated there. Surprisingly enough you are a forum member, but because you are an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, you don't dare to write in there

See?, I got a free insult out of nothing. I have never used any bad word or had any bad intention against him, and certainly will never do, and yet I was also insulted.. LOL!

And a final wondering: is latinijral Carlos Swett's brother?

 

[Guest]

TWO FACEd charlie

OK, here we go...

Yes, I am the same person. I haven't seen the evidence yet, and on that basis have not ruled out the possibility of changing my mind once I've seen it.

Oh, let's see here...you're running around shouting to whoever will listen that Randi won't publicly speak about your claim...why should he? You're the one who's demanding they speak out about you. That sounds like publicity to me. What kind? Beneficial to you; it makes you look like the injured party.

Why are they obligated to speak out in public about this claim? They responded to you, and that was all that was required. Why do you want them to proclaim to the world that your application is not valid (or however they phrased it)? Why do you want them to publicize this matter? Why do you want publicity?

I hope the same thing, Carlos. Let's get it out in the open. Come to Florida. Bring your evidence. Play the tape. Let everyone make up their mind.
If you were truly interested in doing this, your efforts would have been focused in that direction instead of whining about how you've been mistreated.

Your claim that something paranormal is occuring on the videotape is extremely if not fatally weak.
You have to do better than this.

Two faces Charlie of Dayton:

If MY CLAIM is extremely - fatally weak ( without seeing the evidence as you said) Why you are going to waste your time "looking for the video" if you also said there is not possibility to change your mind? Is an real sceptic talking or a two faced sceptic?

YES I AM THE INJURED PART. I received a poor answer based in a poor method from the JREF about my challenge , with the agravant that there were not a single word telling me that my a pplication was invalid. That's the only reason why I am fighting for. Nobody in the world has the right to tell me lies or assumptions in a case that is clearly demonstrate( I don't care if his name is JAMES RANDI), if you want to be blind is your problem , not mine.

Publicity is for you to fight for my rights and honor, and you are asking me why you are twofaced. I ALWAYS identify myself, I am Carlos Swett the one that makes Randi be in silence about my challenge, the only one in the history of JREF.

You want me to come to Florida? Yes , is easy ; I live in the same block of the "amazing meeting".
Ask Randi if I can go and expose the case, I want the "invitation" (not the tickets) write by Randi, don't forget he blocked me.But that time of the meeting you are suppose to have the tape either and with your friends of the tv you can do the same I did, but if you don't get the tape ask Randi again, he has the one I send to the JREF. Or ask Harter to expose the "internet tape" or the link where he studied it "frame by frame". Yes he studied it (WHY if my application was not valid ? )

Where are the results of the "studied phenomenon" of the Swett affair? In what commentary of Randi? you will only find the same trash about SYlvia and Uri, that's publicity for me.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Guest]

VERY FAST

Well, I had remained silent on all this stuff since the day I realized it was pointless to continue. In my opinion the debate became circular long ago, and it's very likely that no positive insight will ever come out of it.

And even worse, we have now entered the "insult stage". It's obvious that nothing interesting or positive will ever result from an insult exchange.

But now a new element has been added. It seems that Swett and Lucifuge Rofocale have been holding a private mail exchange since the early days of this thread or perhaps even before it was born. I really don't know what's been hapenning on this regard, Lucifuge should clear things up for us.

Swett is obviously annoyed and he's shooting insults in every direction. Just to illustrate this fact, let me translate part of his letter to Lucifuge:would translate as: See?, I got a free insult out of nothing. I have never used any bad word or had any bad intention against him, and certainly will never do, and yet I was also insulted.. LOL!

And a final wondering: is latinijral Carlos Swett's brother?

Fast Patricio:
I can see how fast you are in translating , but when I asked to do it with my notarized application you were extremely slow, Why?
Why in your first post of this Thread ( you are the author of this Thread , not me) you also insulted me without my presence in the forum? Have you noticed that after I enter the forum and solved all your questions you began to think different?
Do you remember what you told me in a private message?
Can I put that message in the forum (asking for your permission)?

Why you try to confuse the members by posting :"Swett is obviously annoyed and he's shooting insults in every direction. Just to illustrate this fact, let me translate part of his letter to Lucifuge:"

You are using SWETT and trying to lie to the forum as I were that person. I was not and you knew it . You must said Guillermo Swett :Carlos's brother. That's the difference.

For your convenience I support now every word my brother said, especially in the part that concerns to you.I am still waiting you.

That stupid of Lucifuge (even his nick is) is a big chicken that was in silence all this time. He knew about the challenge before you posted this thread, and was in the ostrich silence like Randi and the JREF, and just came here to post a letter of MY BROTHER .
I am the one ( CARLOS SWETT)who made the challenge , I am the one that received a poor answer from the JREF, I am the one that
wants Randi to say a word and put my notarized application and the answer they gave me.

Very fast Patricio;very fast

Thanks,
S&S

P.S. Salúdame al peruano con una yuca.(you can translate this)

 

[Charlie in Dayton]

Re: TWO FACEd charlie

...not that I think this will do much good, but I can use the practice with my debate and logic skills...

Two faces Charlie of Dayton:

Again with the name calling...Carlos, your personal attacks show a lack of confidence in your claims. If you need to bolster your position by playing childish games, then your position wasn't that solid to start with.

If MY CLAIM is extremely - fatally weak ( without seeing the evidence as you said) Why you are going to waste your time "looking for the video" if you also said there is not possibility to change your mind? Is an real sceptic talking or a two faced sceptic?

I'm not wasting my time examining the evidence THE FIRST TIME, which hasn't happened yet (the little internet video doesn't count, because the way it was created, information was left out). And by the way, I said "...and on that basis have not ruled out the possibility of changing my mind once I've seen it...". You've misquoted what I said, Carlos. And of course, the paragraph ends with the obligatory name calling again...

YES I AM THE INJURED PART.

Injured how? Financially? What money did they take from you? Personally? How did your reputation suffer?

I received a poor answer based in a poor method from the JREF about my challenge , with the agravant that there were not a single word telling me that my a pplication was invalid.

The answer you received was factually valid. Whether or not it was personally unsatisfying is a matter of personal opinion. And you most certainly were told by Andrew Harter that your claim was invalid; you yourself said he told you that. This is deliberate misrepresentation on your part.

That's the only reason why I am fighting for. Nobody in the world has the right to tell me lies or assumptions in a case that is clearly demonstrate( I don't care if his name is JAMES RANDI), if you want to be blind is your problem , not mine.

You believe that your case is clearly demonstrated; get some authorities on the subject to state publicly that your claim is demonstrated clearly. You have not done so thus far. All you have shown is that there's an unidentified blur on a videotape. That does not automatically make it a paranormal event. Might I also remind you that this incident does not qualify as a valid claim under section 1 of the Challenge rules?
And anyone anywhere any time most certainly does have the right to disagree with you. That's where the third party evaluation comes in. Your ego is getting in the way here. And, oh yes, by all means let's end the paragraph with more name-calling...

Publicity is for you to fight for my rights and honor, and you are asking me why you are twofaced. I ALWAYS identify myself, I am Carlos Swett the one that makes Randi be in silence about my challenge, the only one in the history of JREF.

◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Absolute unadulterated unmitigated ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Publicity is for ME to fight for? WHY? Tell me why I am obligated to take up your cause!
There is no reason whatsoever that I MUST fight for you. What rights of yours have been violated? What honor has been impugned? You're the one who started the insults and name-calling; why are you surprised when no one takes you seriously? "I am Carlos Swett...". Big deal. What makes you so special? What sets you above the rest of us?
"...the one that makes Randi be in silence about my challenge...". Garbage...there is a difference between making someone be silent, and them determining that the issue is not worth wasting any more of their time on.
"...the only one in the history of the JREF..." Double garbage...you think you're the only one in the entire history of the JREF who didn't get their case splashed all throughout the media? You think that this is a conspiracy on the part of the JREF to deny you your place in history? Paranoia...rampant paranoia...

You want me to come to Florida? Yes , is easy ; I live in the same block of the "amazing meeting".

That makes it extremely easy for you to show up then, doesn't it?

Ask Randi if I can go and expose the case, I want the "invitation" (not the tickets) write by Randi, don't forget he blocked me.

Horse manure in its most exquisite form. Do your own work. Don't expect me to be your secretary. You live that close to the hotel? Then you are close to the Foundation offices. Get off your couch and go make your own arrangements, if you believe that strongly in your case. And don't even try that excuse about him having blocked your email. Show up in person, if you're that close and believe that much in your case. Stop expecting the rest of the world to do your bidding.

But that time of the meeting you are suppose to have the tape either and with your friends of the tv you can do the same I did, but if you don't get the tape ask Randi again, he has the one I send to the JREF. Or ask Harter to expose the "internet tape" or the link where he studied it "frame by frame". Yes he studied it (WHY if my application was not valid ? )

As I said, Carlos, I'll make every effort to obtain a copy of the tape and examine it. If for some reason I can't get one from the TV stations here, is your offer to supply me with a copy still open?
"...Yes he studied it (WHY if my application was not valid ? )...". Think, Carlos...how is he going to make a determination of the tape IF HE DOESN'T STUDY IT? Did you expect him to rule on the evidence if he doesn't look at it?

Where are the results of the "studied phenomenon" of the Swett affair? In what commentary of Randi? you will only find the same trash about SYlvia and Uri, that's publicity for me.

Thanks,
S&S

The results of the 'studied phenomenon' were sent to you. The fact that you don't agree with them doesn't make the results invalid. "The Swett Affair"...you make it sound like the Pentagon Papers. It's not in Randi's commentary most likely because he felt it wasn't worth commenting on. And your last lime about "...that's publicity for me..." simply reinforces my opinion (and I do have the right to one, no matter what you may think) that you are in this for publicity. If you spent 10% of the effort in getting your claim validated (by qualified individuals who are willing to state their support for you IN PUBLIC) that you have on whining about how you've been mistreated and victimized by the JREF, by now you'd be the featured guest on every talk TV and radio show in the Western Hemisphere.

Carlos, every time you complain about how everyone is against you on this, you take away that much more from your claim. You are doing this to yourself. Your actions are doing you and your case much more harm than good.

Stop complaining, stop expecting everyone else to kowtow to your demands, stop expecting everyone to believe you automatically, get up, get out, and do your own work proving what you say.

To this point you haven't done it.

By the way, I only have one face. If I had another, believe me when I say I wouldn't be using this one.