The bible condones slavery

keale said:
WHOA now back the truck up!!! Mixed fibers is where I draw the line there buddy. How the hell am I supposed to look dope if I cant wear those mixed fibers?
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Hey, you think that's bad? There must be no work done on the Sabbath; the penalty for violation is death. So no more NFL football on Sunday.
 
kerikiwi said:
Except what you describe is not slavery.
Any situation which removes equality is slavery? The fact that one person has a lower income than another removes equality, but is not slavery.
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You work or you don't eat. It seems like the rules are the same to me.
 
Bram Kaandorp said:
Sports ain't work. Sports is recreational. (there you go athletes, your get-out-of-death free card)
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Sorry but they get paid for that so technically its work. So im thinking stoning is sooooo yesterday. What we should do is have an NFL death match and the victor goes free.
 
keale said:
Sorry but they get paid for that so technically its work. So im thinking stoning is sooooo yesterday. What we should do is have an NFL death match and the victor goes free.
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Now you're talking!

[Don LaFontaine voice]
Team death match has never been so lethal.
[/Don LaFontaine voice]

ETA: sorry for the derail, but I couldn't resist.
 
keale said:
Interesting isnt it?

Well guys, any believers want to take a stab at this one? GIBHOR? EDGE?. If indeed morality is divinely inspired then are we doing it wrong by not taking slaves? Ive always wanted my very own slave girl and that should be fine as long as shes a foreigner right???? It plainly says so as posted in the OP.
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Nothing you are being divinely inspired.
 
MG1962 said:
I realize that - I am interested where it came from and who produced it
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Sorry, it was taken from a publication in the 18th century, name lost to me now. Hugh Thomas uses it on the cover of his magisterial The Slave Trade: The History of the Atlantic Slave Trade, 1440-1870. I highly recommend this book, btw. I donated a copy to the Naval History and Heritage Command Library in D. C.
 
Kaylee said:
Interesting point -- I had forgotten that the bible also condones stoning.
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It's not so much that the bible condones stoning. That is a horrible practice, of course, and just an awful way to execute someone (which is something that we also appear to be slowly but surely getting away from, thankfully...) My point was more that the bible commands stoning for ridiculous crimes. My example was one where god himself told humans to execute a man horribly for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week. It's Numbers 15:32-36. The next bit is about being sure to have a blue fringe on your clothes... Talk about priorities.

In exactly the same way that god condones slavery, he condones executing people for violating the sabbath by picking up sticks.
 
Gawdzilla said:
Thank you, I was about to get out my paper notes. Douglass was a magnificent writer. Garrison was a fire-and-brimstone preacher of abolition.

Of some slight interest, Garrison's son helped the NAACP in their counter-attack of "Birth of a Nation".
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Them too, but I was thinking more of the head-on debates between preachers, like these:

"A Debate on Slavery, ... upon the Question: Is slave-holding in itself sinful, and the relation between master and slaves a sinful relation?"
Affirmative: Rev. J. Blanchard, Pastor of the Sixth Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati
Negative: N. L. Rice, D.D., Pastor of the Central Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati

or

"Ought American Slavery to be Perpetuated? A Debate between Rev. W. G. Brownlow and Rev. A. Pryne held at Philadelphia, September, 1858"
 
Anyone? For you believers when are you going to chime in? Clearly divine morality and whats great is that unlike other things that are vague or you have to interpret correctly of course guided by god. Now Slavery on the other hand is clear cut and the rules of not just buying and selling of slaves are laid out how to treat them is there too...just like an owners manual. Good stuff there

Im thinking I want a Russian slave girl like an Anna Kornukova look alike. I love that accent and she can call me a capitalist pig.
 
Rob Rob said:

"Obviously society has changed (for the better) since then. Sadly in their zealotry to proclaim the inherent nature of their book, the fundies end up having to tap dance around such issues. Much simpler to pull a Latter Day Saints and say, polygamy? Not anymore"

They say that, but they don't really mean it. LDS men can be sealed to more than one woman at a time, as long as only one woman is living. Theologically, Mormons believe that they will be one big family in the afterlife.

Until 1978, they said that blacks were cursed because they were descendants of Cain. That is why they couldn't hold the priesthood or go to the Mormon temples. The practices have changed for the most part, but the theology remains largely unchanged.
 
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I seem to know a lot about Mormonism, and most of it I know from watching Big Love

HBO is educational!
 
Pup said:
Them too, but I was thinking more of the head-on debates between preachers, like these:

"A Debate on Slavery, ... upon the Question: Is slave-holding in itself sinful, and the relation between master and slaves a sinful relation?"
Affirmative: Rev. J. Blanchard, Pastor of the Sixth Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati
Negative: N. L. Rice, D.D., Pastor of the Central Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati

or

"Ought American Slavery to be Perpetuated? A Debate between Rev. W. G. Brownlow and Rev. A. Pryne held at Philadelphia, September, 1858"
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So many epic battles, so little time. Thanks for the breadcrumbs!
 
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