Cont: The behaviour of US police officers - part 2
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lobosrul5
Philosopher
Ahh, not the point I was making. I have literally heard it from cop apolgists things along the lines of how would YOU like to deal with all cops do for little more than minimum wage. Which, is BS. Its one of the most highly compensated jobs in the US that doesn't require a degree.
People who think they are untouchable because up until very recently and even then only as the exception to the rule they are pretty much untouchable.
"Why do the people who never find out keep (effing) around?"
Ernie M
Graduate Poster
You're right; they are just accused. The five former Memphis Police officers were indicted in the killing of Tyre Nichols. The criminal investigation is ongoing.
They are to be arranged 17 Feb 2023.
They should receive due legal process through the court system.
I didn't mean to imply they are guilty of any crimes.
I'm waiting to see what's on the soon-to-be-released videos.
The court will determine what, if any, crimes have (or haven't) been committed.
Tyre Nicholas was "just accused" and they murdered him.
shemp
a flimsy character...perfidious and despised
It could be done through an insurance policy. I'd say it's likely a lot of police unions have this arrangement. I can get this where I work.
I was just referring to their legal status. I certainly wasn't defending them.
shemp
a flimsy character...perfidious and despised
I'm not in a union, and it's not called "Murder Bail Money Policy".
It's a legal services insurance. It covers a lot more than bail, like legal advice, making a will, legal costs, setting up a trust, etc. I haven't bought it, but if they add a specific "Murder Bail Money Policy" I'll consider it. Skeptical Greg
Agave Wine Connoisseur
Are they still in the union if they are no longer police officers?
Again, I don't know, but I would imagine they are routinely appealing the firings. The union will have to cut them loose eventually, but not until legal issues are resolved.
Ernie M
Graduate Poster
I wouldn't be surprised.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the Memphis Police Association utilized its connections in a coordinated way to ensure the same-day arrest, booking, bond posting, and releasing of bad, former Memphis Police Department officers Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmitt Martin III, Desmond Mills, Jr., and Justin Smith.
I have no evidence the Memphis Police Association did such. I'm not saying there's any wrong-doing even if that were the case.
I'm not saying or implying that the Memphis Police Association did anything wrong or illegal if it turns out they coordinated the same-day arrest, booking, bond posting, and releasing of the five BAD, former Memphis Police Department officers Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmitt Martin III, Desmond Mills, Jr., and Justin Smith; bad former officers who perpetrated the alleged unjustified, inhumane, brutal and heinous beating-death of Tyre Nichols.
That's just as likely to have been coordinated by the DA. The authorities would want to give them as little time as possible to run or do something crazy. And bail hearings and decisions usually follow an arrest pretty quickly. This seems like a pretty trivial part of the case.
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
I imagine police stations around Memphis are securing their properties. Fencing and whatnot -- for what good it will do. I only heard a blurb about the Scorpion unit but I expect the spillover of blame to be significant.
Ernie M
Graduate Poster
Thank you for putting the arrest/booking/bond posting/releasing, in better perspective.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2023/01/27/ex-cop-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-9-year-old-girl/
On Jan. 18, Prosecutors in Barton County charged 39-year-old Seth P. Wilkins with first-degree sodomy and first-degree sexual abuse of a victim less than 12 years old, according to electronic records from the Barton County Circuit Court.
Ten years earlier, Wilkins had been convicted of possessing over 100 materials of child pornography on his personal computer. Yet the Jasper County judge assigned to his case granted him probation with a seven-year suspended sentence, according to the Joplin Globe.
On Jan. 18, Prosecutors in Barton County charged 39-year-old Seth P. Wilkins with first-degree sodomy and first-degree sexual abuse of a victim less than 12 years old, according to electronic records from the Barton County Circuit Court.
Ten years earlier, Wilkins had been convicted of possessing over 100 materials of child pornography on his personal computer. Yet the Jasper County judge assigned to his case granted him probation with a seven-year suspended sentence, according to the Joplin Globe.
Just watched the Tyre Nichols' video and some discussion and interviews. One cop field-goal kicked him in the face while he was on the ground. Lined it up, changed angles a bit, and wham.
Few minutes later baton-cop comes along and maybe breaks his arm, jabs him in the gut. On and on it goes.
These cops know they are on camera they just think they can get away with it. How many do?
Just not sure what else to say. Running out of words.
Few minutes later baton-cop comes along and maybe breaks his arm, jabs him in the gut. On and on it goes.
These cops know they are on camera they just think they can get away with it. How many do?
Just not sure what else to say. Running out of words.
Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
Forgive my skepticism here, but... all the factors that you cite in support of your position here can likely be cited for a number of cases where white cops got off with maybe a slap on the wrist or otherwise had the evidence messed with. Black cops, too, fairly certainly, but if you're going to try to use that as a defense, that's sorta missing the nature of how much of racism actually plays out in the US. When it comes to equal offenses and frequency, black people are much more likely to be punished in the first place and are punished more harshly on average on top of that. That's before getting to media treatment - Fox is somewhat notorious for playing up black men being bad and playing down white people being bad, which cycles back around into cop mindsets, given the strong lean towards the right that cops have on average.
This, of course, sorta goes without needing said, but there's nothing wrong with emphasizing the point.
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alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
Fortunately I was wrong in my prediction of massive violence in Memphis last night. The major protest was a blocking of a major freeway which can be harmful for other reasons, but as far as I know, no one was injured or died.
Skeptical Greg
Agave Wine Connoisseur
Thanks for the report.
I can't stomach watching it..
I have never got the images of the Rodney King Beating out of my head.
You would think we would have come further than this by now.
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