"The absolute, honest truth about UFOs"

It's called training coupled with years of experience(commercial and military). It's just like an experienced hunter and tracker. He is going to consistently get more animals as opposed to a rank amateur on his first hunt alone. He hasn't got enough experience to read the subtler signs that he will learn in time.

They are trained to seek for other airplane and combat maneuver. Not for astronomical event and planet and I am not sure that their training on rare meteorological event is notable.

So you are just admitting that when it comes to astronomy and not confusing venus they are rank amateur *at best*.
 
I once experienced something much scarier along the same lines.

I imagine it's a very common thing. You're looking for vehicles, and you misread the situation to think you're in danger when you aren't.

Personally, I'd rather mistake the moon for an upcoming obstacle than mistake an upcoming obstacle for the moon.
 
Mainly military and commercial. My dad flew B-24 Bombers in WWII and 747s for N.W. Orient Airlines and never once did he or any of the other pilots he knew never once got fooled by the planet Venus or flicked cigarette butts, swarms or bugs, lighthouses, etc. ...

So they never knew the UFO they saw was Venus. Guess they forgot to look at the start chart, or their Navigator was teasing them when the confused pilots asked if that bright object ahead was Venus, and the Navigator said/lied, "Venus, Venus is not up yet"; as all your never fooled pilots and your dad, watched Venus for hours...


LOL, what a load of BS. Pilots are fooled by light and reflections all the time, what we do with the illusion is based on our training and knowledge. We are trained to expect illusions, reflections, and other physiological events associated with our brain and senses limitations when flying.

We were flying and there was a bright red light up high ahead, looked like possible traffic to the copilot, it was Mars to me. It did stand out, and if you looked at Mars, it did look like traffic, but it was Mars. I told the copilot it was Mars, he said traffic; I said, keep an eye on it. I asked the Navigator to confirm it was Mars, and the Navigator said Mars was not up, he lied; there is was some teasing of the Co by the Navs in SAC, a tradition of teasing that much go back as long as the copilots insist the bright planet, or stars are planes, or UFOs: count on the Navigator, to step in and support the illusion, and help make the copilot maintain the illusion; as our copilot watched Mars the rest of night, and it worked out; we did not hit Mars. Thank you Nav, thank you copilot.

It appears if your dad and all his pilots friends did see UFOs, they were fooled by by the planet Venus or flicked cigarette butts, swarms or bugs, lighthouses, etc; or Mars. I loved the shadows on the Radar, they would look as if a plane was off to our right or left, following us, an invisible UFO. With invisible massless aliens.
 
Great topic. I've been trying to read as much as I can in this thread, since our sky was covered in lenticular clouds (considered cloaked UFO's) The shapes were fantastic and certainly disc-like. I took many images, and downloaded them to PC. I've used a simple technique to alter the images, the brightness is down and contrasts are up. I noticed a blue light flickering from a cloud above me, and I took an image of it. After filtering away the lighter area of the cloud, there appears to be a solid disc tucked neatly within. I also noticed that one of these clouds emitted some sort of fuel. It made me very suspicious. I forwarded the images to BUFORA, who replied "Don't worry, 98% of these cases usually turn out to be nothing"

That's great news, but the 2%, coupled with what is being captured in our sky these days, has caused me to question my old belief's regarding UFO's. I think it's more than just coincidence and set-up's.

ETA: Sorry, my attachments didn't work. I need to resize the images before re uploading.
 
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Image 1: Cloud in Chester UK 7th March 2015.
Image 2: Same image with decreased brightness and increased contracts.





There has been a lot of unexplainable shapes being captured on camera in the UK lately, some reached the news paper "Things with horns" I'm suspicious by it.
 
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This image was found in The Daily Express. Not one, but two images of "Lord only knows" but each do have a horn. It was captured during the recent eclipse we had.
 
Image 1: Cloud in Chester UK 7th March 2015.
Image 2: Same image with decreased brightness and increased contracts.

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There has been a lot of unexplainable shapes being captured on camera in the UK lately, some reached the news paper "Things with horns" I'm suspicious by it.

Any single one of these pictures that is not out of focus, taken at night, heavily "processed" or all three? I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want to believe. :boggled:
 
Cassidy is doing what she does best...evidence for nothing.

Incidentally, is that the enterprise in the second picture. The las one looks like the Doctor's time stream.
 
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Great topic.

Why is this a great topic? Do you have any opinion on the arguments against alien UFOs?

I've been trying to read as much as I can in this thread, since our sky was covered in lenticular clouds (considered cloaked UFO's)
How much of the thread did you manage to read? I mean, all 230 odd posts can't be that much of a burden given your history here.

The shapes were fantastic and certainly disc-like.
Yes, as Lenticular clouds are wont to be. If they were other shapes they'd not be described as Lenticular, now would they? They'd be Stratus or Nimbus and so on.

I took many images, and downloaded them to PC. I've used a simple technique to alter the images, the brightness is down and contrasts are up.
You are so advanced. The aliens must be worried. Do you think it's aliens who are breaking all your diamonds?

Maybe they're writing special messages to you in carbon. Have you ever thought of zooming-in on the electron-scale to read the broken diamonds? IBM can help you with that. Call them; say the JREF sent you; that'll get you into the private red velvet inner-chambers. Mind the frawd ohw skaeps sdrawkcab!

I noticed a blue light flickering from a cloud above me, and I took an image of it.
These are a very select phenomena. Not everyone gets the flickering blue cloud. You are so lucky. All my clouds refuse to flicker.

Keep an eye on the frequency of the flickering. There could be a quantum morse code message in there too. Actually, thinking about the physics of it, your diamonds may be shattering because of the action of that blue flickering light.

Whatever else you do, you should begin sculpting a mountain from mashed-potatoes. This is vital.

After filtering away the lighter area of the cloud, there appears to be a solid disc tucked neatly within.

I'd be more cautious about revealing these secrets openly. Do you suppose these discs want to be seen? You are a select person, one of only a hand-full who can use Photoshop. Blurting this out on the Internet is like handing your address over to the aliens; they'll connect the dots!

You know, that blue light diamond message may have been a warning from them to stop perceiving them. You're like the Sherlock to their Moriarty!

I also noticed that one of these clouds emitted some sort of fuel. It made me very suspicious.
I'll say! When it's raining fool; always carry the umbrella of reason.

I forwarded the images to BUFORA, who replied "Don't worry, 98% of these cases usually turn out to be nothing"
How do you know BUFORA are telling you the whole truth? Hmm? Fuel for thought. Hallelujah! Amen!

That's great news, but the 2%, coupled with what is being captured in our sky these days, has caused me to question my old belief's regarding UFO's. I think it's more than just coincidence and set-up's.

You're onto something. I really think so. If anyone can find the aliens in the sky it's you. From spirits in blood and mp3 files, to the clouds above; you are the pre-eminent seer. Don't let those BUFORA naysayers get you down. Flood them with data!

There has been a lot of unexplainable shapes being captured on camera in the UK lately, some reached the news paper "Things with horns" I'm suspicious by it.

See what I mean? You got the skills. I don't see the horns, personally, but I'm not equipped with your psychic prongs.
 
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Why is this a great topic? Do you have any opinion on the arguments against alien UFOs?


How much of the thread did you manage to read? I mean, all 230 odd posts can't be that much of a burden given your history here.


Yes, as Lenticular clouds are wont to be. If they were other shapes they'd not be described as Lenticular, now would they? They'd be Stratus or Nimbus and so on.


You are so advanced. The aliens must be worried. Do you think it's aliens who are breaking all your diamonds?

Maybe they're writing special messages to you in carbon. Have you ever thought of zooming-in on the electron-scale to read the broken diamonds? IBM can help you with that. Call them; say the JREF sent you; that'll get you into the private red velvet inner-chambers. Mind the frawd ohw skaeps sdrawkcab!


These are a very select phenomena. Not everyone gets the flickering blue cloud. You are so lucky. All my clouds refuse to flicker.

Keep an eye on the frequency of the flickering. There could be a quantum morse code message in there too. Actually, thinking about the physics of it, your diamonds may be shattering because of the action of that blue flickering light.

Whatever else you do, you should begin sculpting a mountain from mashed-potatoes. This is vital.



I'd be more cautious about revealing these secrets openly. Do you suppose these discs want to be seen? You are a select person, one of only a hand-full who can use Photoshop. Blurting this out on the Internet is like handing your address over to the aliens; they'll connect the dots!

You know, that blue light diamond message may have been a warning from them to stop perceiving them. You're like the Sherlock to their Moriarty!


I'll say! When it's raining fool; always carry the umbrella of reason.


How do you know BUFORA are telling you the whole truth? Hmm? Fuel for thought. Hallelujah! Amen!



You're onto something. I really think so. If anyone can find the aliens in the sky it's you. From spirits in blood and mp3 files, to the clouds above; you are the pre-eminent seer. Don't let those BUFORA naysayers get you down. Flood them with data!



See what I mean? You got the skills. I don't see the horns, personally, but I'm not equipped with your psychic prongs.

You might not be suspicious of what's being reported and that's fine. Why you have to scoff at those with questions is madness. I've simply uploaded a few images that caught my attention, and thought I'd share. Was there something wrong with that Don?
 
I love lenticular clouds. We don't get them here on the Front Range. There's a really good one over a mountain in Washington visible from Lewis/McCord. Very reliable.
 
Oh Cassidy, Cassidy...it wasn't just the images was it? It is also your comments and the arrogance, yes arrogance, that you have displayed throughout your posts on the forum, where you expect people to accept whatever you say.

You refused to answer very simple questions on the other thread...and let me tell you, people there were quite nice until they realised all you did was waffle with regard to your claims and how you intended to prove it.

Don't throw the martyrdom bit around. I live in a country where suprnatural and paranormal claims are par for the course, and where some people who question it are either killed or forced to flee. So, I have absolute disdain for people who just expect everyone to fall in line with whatever childish fantasy they have.
 
If you are really keen on knowing more about what you are seeing, visit the Badastronomy blog. Phil loves his clouds, he does.
 
Any single one of these pictures that is not out of focus, taken at night, heavily "processed" or all three? I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want to believe. :boggled:

Just the second one was altered. I don't want to believe it, but I can't turn a blind eye to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGHO50HEEI
 
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Oh Cassidy, Cassidy...it wasn't just the images was it? It is also your comments and the arrogance, yes arrogance, that you have displayed throughout your posts on the forum, where you expect people to accept whatever you say.

You refused to answer very simple questions on the other thread...and let me tell you, people there were quite nice until they realised all you did was waffle with regard to your claims and how you intended to prove it.

Don't throw the martyrdom bit around. I live in a country where suprnatural and paranormal claims are par for the course, and where some people who question it are either killed or forced to flee. So, I have absolute disdain for people who just expect everyone to fall in line with whatever childish fantasy they have.

I don't have arrogance, I type something and folk get irritated by it. It's not arrogance because I don't like the intimidation. I don't expect folk to fall in line either, I just don't fall in line with "Pareidolia" as an answer is all. Also I haven't refused to answer anything, I simply don't want to upload a "suggested" protocol for folk to pull to bits. I did explain the procedure.

I don't see what this thread has to do with my diamond challenge anyway, and all I'm doing is uploading what I caught on camera. Have you actually heard what emits PC's lately? I'm concerned about it.
 
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And what you caught on camera are clouds. In fact not even interesting ones. If you are sincerely interested in learning more about what you saw, go to the Phil Plait blog at Slate. He has pi tures that will blow your mind.

However, if you prefer to wallow in ignorance, be my guest. But don't deceive yourself that people will not point out how silly your concludions about these are.
 
I love lenticular clouds. We don't get them here on the Front Range. There's a really good one over a mountain in Washington visible from Lewis/McCord. Very reliable.

I don't think we've ever had them here over the city. A month later we had them again. Here's how lovely the day was. It was like this all over.

 
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LOL, what? Are you claiming that if X is currently undetectable, X should be considered non-existent? That leads to the ridiculous claim that the Higgs Boson should have been considered non-existent, before we figured out how to detect it.

Yes. The only reason we found the Higgs was because it became visible. At first it was revealed by math and hypothesis, and later through actual experiment.
More importantly, the Standard Model, our best (and very successful) model of how things work, requires and predicts the Higgs boson. We were explicitly looking for it to confirm and complete the model.

This is entirely different from saying that vague speculations of alien visits should be taken seriously because they may not be impossible, although that same Standard Model suggests they are, at least, extremely improbable.
 

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