"The absolute, honest truth about UFOs"

[barehl]

I can't understand why this site fights so hard on the matter of UFOs when at the same time most all of you seem to espouse the Drake Equation and believe, just by sheer numbers, that there must be some kind of life out there. Since that's the case, it is not a stretch at all to extend that to advanced races with advanced craft. Out of one side of your mouths you say that there must be life in the universe and out of the other you say Bah, humbug, there ain't no alien craft here on earth. I think it's because if there were entire world views would shatter and fragment and they chuck the drake equation right out the door. Why the split personality saying you do believe and you don't believe?

What you are asking is for everyone to adopt the most naiive view, roughly equal to that of a small child. The reason why people find this suggestion silly is because there are many other factors that they are aware of.

For example, a craft flying that low would show up on radar. However, the occurrence of this has steadily declined as radar sets got better. In the early days when false echoes were common, you had lots of these reports. Now, they are almost nonexistent. Applying common sense, are you trying to claim that these craft don't show up on radar and that's why they aren't showing up now? If you make this claim then you cannot count the early false echoes as evidence.

What about known tests of military vehicles such as the US, SR-71, F-117, and B-2? Usually UFO enthusiasts try to lump these and other things like early ejection seat tests in with UFO sightings. Some even try to claim that the Foo Fighters of WWII were somehow aliens. Mixing things of vastly differing background and details is an obvious violation of common sense.

If a craft flies faster than the speed of sound it will create sonic booms and sometimes contrails. You would have to be arguing that these craft somehow avoid sonic booms.

If these craft orbited the Earth they would be seen by astronomers all over the world. So, you have to be arguing that they don't orbit. This would require a claim of overcoming gravity.

Once you've made these claims you are then left with the most absurd claims. For example, a craft can hide its radar reflection but can't hide itself visually? We did this back in WWII. If the craft want to be seen then why hide the radar reflection?

Other claims are things like radiation. I find it truly remarkable that someone would suggest that a craft can bend gravity but that it has a radiation leak.

Until someone manages to lay out an argument that doesn't require suspending common sense, you are going to have immediate skeptics for any such claim.

 

[barehl]

I don't think we've ever had them here over the city. A month later we had them again. Here's how lovely the day was. It was like this all over.

Lenticular clouds are well known to people who fly sailplanes because you can catch the updraft in the lee wave just ahead of the clouds. This is so common that the Soaring Society of America gives out Lenny pins for flying a lee wave. So, if these clouds contain solid craft why aren't the sailplanes crashing into them?

For example, see the sailplanes under the lenticular clouds?

The lee wave is coming off this mountain range.

 

[dlorde]

I saw it flickering a blue light. It wasn't one of the lenticular clouds, it was just an everyday cloud. I only took the image because it flickered.

Lightning (often seen as a flickering light which may appear coloured) is associated with clouds, and often occurs entirely within or behind a cloud.

What is your evidence that there was a solid form in the cloud - did you see something bounce off it?

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Just the second one was altered. I don't want to believe it, but I can't turn a blind eye to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGHO50HEEI

If that is a "face in the sky" then this is/was an alien sculpture: Old_Man_of_the_Mountain^WP.