The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

now, I'm certain if a 767 had flown into the towers it would folded on impact and not have passed through the steel box girders on the wall of the tower, in the same way autos have crumple zones to absorb the impact of a crash.


Crumple zones are designed to increase the survivability of an impact for the occupants of the vehicle; they're not designed to prevent damage to the thing being slammed into.

Besides, what impacts would a plane be involved in where a crumple zone would increase the occupants' odds of survival? Mid-air collisions? Slamming into a skyscraper? OK, so they survived that, now what? Oh, right. The plane, having lost all forward momentum, plummets to the ground.
 
You like pictures achimspok, here's a composit photo for you

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/Capture765-1.jpg

... Now back to the passport. The concept is pretty simple.
... If the passport was in fact found on Vesey st. I have no problem with that either.
... It only means there was an over pressure fracture in the fusalage. ... the air at the rear of the cabin continues foward and it and builds up enough pressure to blow out the top or side of the fusalage.

It's always funny to come over. Imagine that in slow motion. ...the PLOPP of the fuselage that blew the passport back to vesey st while the rest of the plane waited to enter the building completely.

Btw, the trail that came out of the "nose out" was the trail of the starboard engine that damaged 50 Murray St.

distance WTC2 - 50 Murray (damaged roof) = 407m
height (damaged roof) = 54m above street level
fall time (onto damaged roof) = 7.08 sec
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horizontal speed = 57.5 m/s = 128.5mph

Hence, the starboard engine lost 357mph inside the building. It was the first part that escaped the building on the other side. Bad time for the "travelling air carrying passports backwards" theory.

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Mudcat: According to the MK Ultra Project (which never happened in reality), 'mind control' is impossible.
tempesta: Oh but wait, mind control is just a conspiracy theory. Yawn.
Mudcat: It is, got evidence stating otherwise?

Hey, Mudcat, there were two commissions investigating that. Even if Richard Helm ordered the destruction of all evidence, the commissions still found enough.

google for:
Allen Dulles (CIA) / Richard Helms (CIA) -> Dr. Sidney Gottlieb (Supervisor)
or
OPERATION PAPERCLIP -> OPERATION MONARCH -> OPERATION MKULTRA
or
just google for Nazi-scientists & CIA. ;)

MKULTRA: "The methodology of mind control works best when sever drama is administered by the age of 3 year old. Sever drama such as rape applied at the age of 3 will cause the personality to split or dissociate in an attempt to shield the mind from memories of events too painful to endure. ... The method works best when the drama is repeated at 6 years of age."

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Btw, this thread runs since a very long time. There is still no answer to that 100% impossible parking lot of Alomari.

Little reminder:
"Alomari had listed two vehicles as authorized to park in his parking space. One of those vehicles is registered to Atta."

Sworn on 12th September 9:51am in Portland / Maine
FBI Agent, James K. Lechner
source: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents/fbiaffidavit11.htm

The problem about that sworn report is,
- it was the wrong Alomari
- it was the wrong address

So how could this man "Abdul Rahman Alomari" ...
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...authorize a parking lot for Atta's vehicle. Any idea?

His identity was aledgedly stolen...
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...therefore the thief "Abdul Aziz Alomari" called "Abdul Rahman Alomari" and begged him to authorize a parking lot in front of his house for Atta.
Something like "Please Mr. Rahman, the FBI will come and find it."

Next, Atta and the thief Alomari (Aziz) rang at the door of Bukhari, the neighbor and flight teacher of Mr. Rahman Alomari, and stole the identity of him too because it was used to rent the car that was full of flight manuals and was found in Portland too.
Well, Agent James K. Lechner found that car! What an agent! Fanfares!

Well, any thinking individual immediatly knows that this fish stinks from the head.

You can discuss for 10 more years. 9/11 will always stink from the head.


Did I mention that they alegedly found the passport of the thief (Abdul Aziz) on 9/11 in the delayed baggage in Portland (right name, right birthday, right picture, ...)

Well, they first mentioned it 3 years later and never have shown that passport to the public but HEY it's 3 years of ultimate fun to chase for some wrong Alomaris? ...who are still alive. ...it's better than unemployed, right?

Sometimes the liars don't know they are lying. They just read it for the public.
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My opinion about the Naudet video: It's what it is. Two french guys made a video a catched the event: airplane hit at about 490mph the center column almost perpendicular. One passport escaped and according to Susan Ginsburg (today Homeland Security) it was doctored in the same fraudulent manner like the Alomari passport.

Who the **** faked both? ...and parking lots ...stolen identities ...tortured for confessions ...faked DNA from a sister of Osama ...sent edited videotapes without sound to Yosri Fouda ...and so on and so on and so on.
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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL


Let's see where you are after 10 more years of debunking stupidity. Cheers!
 
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My opinion about the Naudet video: It's what it is. Two french guys made a video a catched the event: airplane hit at about 490mph the center column almost perpendicular. One passport escaped and according to Susan Ginsburg (today Homeland Security) it was doctored in the same fraudulent manner like the Alomari passport.

Who the **** faked both? ...and parking lots ...stolen identities ...tortured for confessions ...faked DNA from a sister of Osama ...sent edited videotapes without sound to Yosri Fouda ...and so on and so on and so on.

Let's see where you are after 10 more years of debunking stupidity. Cheers!
Not news you have no clue on 911. A passport can survive an aircraft impact. Next time take a course in aircraft accident investigation before proving you have no idea what is possible, and exposing your paranoid conspiracy theories.

You make up lies. You offer no evidence, only nonsense.
 
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No news. It can. But it cannot escape from the cockpit throughout the tail. Nonsense!
I'm not paranoid. You are. You are afraid that someone will take your daisies away and your white wooden fence.

What's about the Atta parking lot of Mr. Rahman Alomari? (little help: 1+1=2)

Therefore, the WTC passport is "manipulated in the same fraudulent way". ;)
 
What's about the Atta parking lot of Mr. Rahman Alomari? (little help: 1+1=2)

I'm not following you there dude. Parking spot has two cars authorized. Its authorized by someone else with a similar name. His identity was (alleged - by whom?) stolen. So what? Was proof presented of the stolen identity, or a sworn testimony? Why is this important?
 
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No news. It can. But it cannot escape from the cockpit throughout the tail. Nonsense!
I'm not paranoid. You are. You are afraid that someone will take your daisies away and your white wooden fence.

What's about the Atta parking lot of Mr. Rahman Alomari? (little help: 1+1=2)

Therefore, the WTC passport is "manipulated in the same fraudulent way". ;)

Thousands of plane parts and its contents continue through the building onto the streets below but your opinion is that a passport couldn't be one of those thousands of pieces.

A claim of faked passports proving that it was not an inside job. The government would have used real passports.

Something about one car, two vehicle spaces, three guys.

This is limp.
Do you have anything else.
 
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So silver, explain the other thousands of pieces of paper that were seen raining down like confetti after both airplanes impacted the towers?
 
Passport was found; and you post junk. What is your point on your massive SPAM attack? Are you aiming for 10 more years of failure?

Why can't a passport survive an aircraft crash? Show your work.

Exactly! Heck; even after the Überlingen accident in 2002, which was a mid air collision between a 757 and a Tupolev 154, they found personal effects, some litterally pristine. I read the accident report at work (as my job is ATC related, we get most reports of accident and incidents), with lots of pictures, and a very detailed account of the events; before, under and after.

To illustrate the point of the sane; scroll down to the second pic on this site;

http://skysoftairlines.blogspot.com/2010/05/criminalisation-of-air-accidents.html

and notice the papers that are highly visible.
 
So silver, explain the other thousands of pieces of paper that were seen raining down like confetti after both airplanes impacted the towers?

But dearest Tri; didnt you know that that was either:

a) A hologram, and it didnt happen

b) The evil gubment faked the films (and mind washed the eyewitnesses)

c) The evil gubment had someone standing in the towers, throwing out the papers, whilst detonating the charges that demolitioned the towers

:p
 
first of all I said zionist, and someone does not have to be jewish to be a zionist, just someone who helps the zionist cause.

So present evidence of that.

rupert murdoch is australian, but his wife is zionist.

His wife is Chinese. Odd for such a woman to take an interest in Israel.

second, there is really no such thing as anti-semitism.

Quick, alert the Shoah museum and set them straight.

most isrealis are yids, not ethnic jews, which is where the misunderstanding lies, because jew is the only word which means both a race and religion.
the semitic tribes go back to BC.
in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.
so, not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

I'm sure this distinction would mean so much to those that design to murder them all.

Unless you turn the Mythbusters loose with a rocket sled...:)

Pleasant memories.

It's always funny to come over. Imagine that in slow motion. ...the PLOPP of the fuselage that blew the passport back to vesey st while the rest of the plane waited to enter the building completely.

If that's how you want to imagine it, go ahead. Doesn't change the fact that the passport eventually floated down the street along with thousands of other bits of paper.

Hey, Mudcat, there were two commissions investigating that. Even if Richard Helm ordered the destruction of all evidence, the commissions still found enough.

google for:
Allen Dulles (CIA) / Richard Helms (CIA) -> Dr. Sidney Gottlieb (Supervisor)
or
OPERATION PAPERCLIP -> OPERATION MONARCH -> OPERATION MKULTRA
or
just google for Nazi-scientists & CIA. ;)

You are aware that MKULTRA was a colossal failure right? I mean it proved that you could screw someone's mind up. But controlling that person was essentially impossible.
 
I'm not following you there dude. Parking spot has two cars authorized. Its authorized by someone else with a similar name. His identity was (alleged - by whom?) stolen. So what? Was proof presented of the stolen identity, or a sworn testimony? Why is this important?

The similar name Alomari has authorized the similar name Atta.
Yeehaa!
The similar name Alomari has stolen the passport of the similar name Alomari.
Yeeeehaaaa²!
The similar name Alomari and Atta have stolen the identity of the neighbor of the similar name Alomari (with a similar name Atta parking lot) to rent a car.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa³!

Well, we have several Attas in several locations at the same time like the Atta interested in crop dusters just days before 9/11 - may be the same crop duster Atta like the one who was interested in crob dusting before Atta first entered US.

You ask, why it is important?

No further questions, dude.
 
Thousands of plane parts and its contents continue through the building onto the streets below but your opinion is that a passport couldn't be one of those thousands of pieces.

You obviously do not understand what it is all about.
Do you know where Vesey St is? Do you know the direction of AA11? Do you know the direction of wind?
Well, they know. They even understand the implication. They changed their story.
A claim of faked passports proving that it was not an inside job. The government would have used real passports.

Something about one car, two vehicle spaces, three guys.

This is limp.
Do you have anything else.
The government would have used real passports?
These passports were real passports but had allegedly fraudulent stamps.
Next to a lot (enough) real stamps.
But the best of it:
“An Arabic stamp impression located near the top of page 8 has been partially covered with correction fluid,” as stated in an INS letter from John Ross, INS Supervisory Forensic Document Examiner, to Lorie Gottesman, FBI Document Examiner, on November 2, 2001.
Do you have any idea why you first fake an arabic stamp and next cover it with bright white correction fluid?
A) for the man on the counter
B) to produce an eye catcher
C) to show a real passport as fraudulent in the manner associated with Al Qaeda

Try to be a little bit empathetic!
You are a killer. You got a real passport. You have to enter a foreign state. How can you contaminate you clean real passport to increase the chance of being captured?

Not just one did it. No. Two of two questionable passports regarding to the source are contaminated in this STUPID way.
 
So silver, explain the other thousands of pieces of paper that were seen raining down like confetti after both airplanes impacted the towers?
So gold, is there any problem about that?
Name it 3psi over pressure due to fuel air explosion, wind and broken windows.

All those pages of office paper didn't came from the cockpit and did not impact steel and concrete at 490mph (fast like a bullet) in the center and in front of tons of fast metal and glass shrapnel and a spray of fuel droplets.

Vesey St.? Show me! Do a test!
I really want to see that passport fly backwards out of the tower and against the wind into the Vesey St. completely unaffected. Even through the building core and out of the south side would be a bit of a miracle.
As you can read above, the engine - the heaviest part - lost 350mph of speed over a 60m distance and was the fastest piece that came out on the opposite side. It lost speed due to impact. That passport was slower. It impacted anything. Most of the airplane behind that passport never escaped the building even if the deceleration during the exterior impact was too small to measure it. What do you think slowed down all the tons of material? Well, the passport allegedly was in the very front of it. It was virtually between column and airplane, wall and airplane, elevator and airplane and so on.

How many passports were found prior to the building collapses? Just one?
 
...which was a mid air collision between a 757 and a Tupolev 154, they found personal effects, some litterally pristine.

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To illustrate the point of the sane; scroll down to the second pic on this site;

http://skysoftairlines.blogspot.com/2010/05/criminalisation-of-air-accidents.html

and notice the papers that are highly visible.
To illustrate the point of the saner, scroll back up to the first pic and notice that huge long piece of debris.
Hey, I can see the windows still intact.
 
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