The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[Oystein]

... fox news, by the way, is owned by media mogul and zionist rupert murdoch, who was recently labelled on tv station channel 4, here in the UK, as beyond evil...

Oohhhh look what we got ourselves here: Another anti-semitic truther

 

[NoahFence]

A CM by any other name.....

 

[twinstead]

Great. Now we have another JOOOOOOOOs DONE IT!!!11!!!11!! guy.

 

[Edx]

Oohhhh look what we got ourselves here: Another anti-semitic truther

You know whenever I hear stuff like this I think it is possible that they get so used to reading this kind of material that "they dont even know what it means anymore. They just say stuff like "Zionist" without even knowing what they are saying... probably not... but you know

 

[SpitfireIX]

Pure comedy, is what it is:



Joe is nothing more than retired software engineer. Funny that he alone at Boeing is claiming that to be a 737 engine and not...you know...someone qualified to make that statement?

He didn't even work for Boeing. See here.

I was recruited by Ling Electronics of Anaheim, the largest manufacturer of test equipment called SHAKERS. . . . At that time Ling Electronics was the only manufacturer of big giant shakers, a shaker that you could mount a wide body jet on, including the Boeing 747. It was learned the hard way that the faster airplanes flew, the more they vibrated. Back in the late 1950s the British had 5 comet airliners disappear with no trace. Finally as their crash sited were found their engineers realized the these planes actually shook themselves apart at 35,000 and 500+ MPH. Thus, the aircraft industry had to increase their vibration testing. . . .

On this project I did one hundred percent of the implementation of the FAT and the Shock Spectrum Analysis System. . . .

One important thing that I learned on this project was the absolute fragility of airframes. . . . But, I remember in the late 1980s a 747 flying near Hawaii at 35,000 feet had part of its cabin roof blow off, and a woman not seat belted in was sucked out to her death. This was caused by resonate frequencies building up around the cabin air seals.

And he doesn't know jack about aerospace engineering. The first two de Havilland Comet^WP crashes were due to an aerodynamic flaw; the third probably due to control problems, and the fourth and fifth due to metal fatigue caused by repeated pressurization and depressurization. None of these aircraft "shook themselves apart." Further, the first two crashed on takeoff; and the third a few minutes after takeoff; there was no mystery about their locations, and all the wreckage was recovered. The last two crashed in the ocean, but in both cases debris and bodies were located, and most of the wreckage of the fourth was raised by the Royal Navy.

The near-crash of Aloha Airlines Flight 243^WP (a 737), in which a flight attendant standing in the aisle was sucked out of the aircraft, was caused by metal fatigue and corrosion; again not due to vibration. Keith may be conflating this accident with United Airlines Flight 811^WP (a 747), which lost a cargo door shortly after taking off from Honolulu; nine people were killed. But again, the problem was not due to vibration; it was a design flaw in the door's latching mechanism.

 

[silver birch]

Oohhhh look what we got ourselves here: Another anti-semitic truther

first of all I said zionist, and someone does not have to be jewish to be a zionist, just someone who helps the zionist cause. rupert murdoch is australian, but his wife is zionist.
second, there is really no such thing as anti-semitism. most isrealis are yids, not ethnic jews, which is where the misunderstanding lies, because jew is the only word which means both a race and religion.
the semitic tribes go back to BC.
in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.
so, not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

 

[NoahFence]

first of all I said zionist, and someone does not have to be jewish to be a zionist, just someone who helps the zionist cause. rupert murdoch is australian, but his wife is zionist.
second, there is really no such thing as anti-semitism. most isrealis are yids, not ethnic jews, which is where the misunderstanding lies, because jew is the only word which means both a race and religion.
the semitic tribes go back to BC.
in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.
so, not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

So no comment on the litany of other things you've been proven wrong about?

Why is it so hard to simply say "I was mistaken"?

 

[Oystein]

...not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

Of course not, but everybody is an anti-semite who thinks that calling someone very loosely related to the discussion topic a "zionist" and hopes this would help his argument along somehow.

 

[George 152]

in this video it shows the engine, and retired boeing design engineer Joseph Kieth calls it a 737 engine
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahS9wLpScCE&feature=channel_video_title

And you wonder why he's retired ?

 

[George 152]

Oh ^^ Well then using the quote function must be added to the list of things silver-birch doesn't understand

I could as well have quoted this:

Where he does make the claim that passports are not needed.
Does he imply carrying one is suspicious? Or would he admit he'd be better off scratching that parenthesis?

Obviously he is one of that set of people who have never and will never travel overseas and knows nothing of the requirements of a traveler to carry their documents at all times

 

[bynmdsue]

first of all I said zionist, and someone does not have to be jewish to be a zionist, just someone who helps the zionist cause. rupert murdoch is australian, but his wife is zionist.
second, there is really no such thing as anti-semitism. most isrealis are yids, not ethnic jews, which is where the misunderstanding lies, because jew is the only word which means both a race and religion.
the semitic tribes go back to BC.
in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.
so, not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

Gotcha Adolf, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[twinstead]

Ideologues can be boring sometimes.

 

[BasqueArch]

Silver Birch
You can improve on your claims, but there are problems. Your claims and reality conflict.

• Rupert Murdock is not Zionist, he’s Australian-American.
• The engine from a 737 won’t fit in the nacelle of the 767 flight that hit the tower so that guy is wrong.
• The reason that passport was found on the street is because that’s where it landed and someone found it. It had one of the hijacker’s name on it, so the FBI thought it was important.
• A ton is not 3,510 lbs. There’s something wrong with your computer, check that the numbers keys are in their proper layout, otherwise the public will not trust what you say.
• A pound of aluminum is not lighter than a pound of steel.
• Architects and engineers call those vertical pieces that hold up a building columns, not girders. Mistakenly calling columns, girders, is done by even well known, but weak on buildings knowledge, conspiracist physicists. Don’t copy this error.
• MIT engineers in 2002 calculated that the wings had about 15 times the energy needed to slice through those columns, although they concluded this before they had heard from you. You can write them with your calculations, but fix those numbers keys first. You’ll need to download math notations software. A google course in impact engineering wouldn’t hurt. Talk their language and you’ll get them on your side.

 

[Sabretooth]

first of all I said zionist, and someone does not have to be jewish to be a zionist, just someone who helps the zionist cause. rupert murdoch is australian, but his wife is zionist.
second, there is really no such thing as anti-semitism. most isrealis are yids, not ethnic jews, which is where the misunderstanding lies, because jew is the only word which means both a race and religion.
the semitic tribes go back to BC.
in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.
so, not all jews are zionists, and not all zionists are jews.

Good gawd...can you type with just a bit of grammar and proper sentence structure at some point?

 

[leftysergeant]

You need to think.

Like, HONESTLY. Use your head, research WHY would a hijacker have a passport for an internal flight?

Would you go to Turkey without your passport? Would you check out of your hotel and go from Istanbul to Izmir without it?

You really need to think these things through all the way.

 

[NoahFence]

Would you go to Turkey without your passport? Would you check out of your hotel and go from Istanbul to Izmir without it?

You really need to think these things through all the way.

That original question was posed to silver birch... as yet unanswered by him, naturally.

 

[Garrison]

Cars are also not generally known to plow into things while going 500 mph.

Unless you turn the Mythbusters loose with a rocket sled...

 

[leftysergeant]

in the middle ages a jewish missionary travelled to russia and people took up the jewish religion. the people who flocked to isreal after the holocaust were ethnic eastern europeans, yids, not the descendents of abraham.

What Nazi douche bag pulled that out of his butt?

 

[beachnut]

I would love to if I had the time, but I have other things to do.

The major reason you have no clue, you have no time to do rational reality based research. You look up lies and repeat them due to ignorance.

what I don't believe is the official story of the north tower.

And the reason is pure nonsense.

RADAR proves you wrong. Do you care care about evidence and reality as you post nonsense and lies?

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
RADAR summary, and if you took time, you could find the raw data and do your own summary; but you are too busy spreading lies and you refuse to take the time to research 911 using reality based evidence.

why I believe in the no plane theory.

Believing the no plane theory is not rational. You don't understand RADAR, or eyes.

if the tower was hit by a 767 the tower shown in the videos taken a few minutes after would not have looked like that.

Yes it would look exactly like that because E=1/2mv²You don't do physics. Why did you fail to take physics? Too hard, not enough time?

say, it had a big heavy 767 crash into it. a 767 is big and heavy, but, it will float on water, not only will it float but has enough buoyancy to support the passengers walking on the wings.

Aircraft carriers float on water, and if you poke a hole in them, they sink. The 767 floats, then sinks. You failed on this one. You don't do science.

so, like anything that floats, it displaces its own weight in water. this means most of the volume of the plane is air. so, strip away the engines, landing gear, and everything inside the plane, and the weight you have left spread over the 160 ft fuselage and 150 ft wingspan means the aluminium skin is not very thick.

Flight 11 and 175 weighed 283,000 pounds and 277,000 pounds at impact. Impacts equal in energy to 1300 and 2000 pounds of TNT - the reason the planes crashed through the exterior steel of the WTC. 7 and 11 times greater than the ability of the exterior to stop an aircraft impact. You did not do any research on the structure of the WTC, and don't have a clue how thick the steel is.

now, I'm certain if a 767 had flown into the towers it would folded on impact and not have passed through the steel box girders on the wall of the tower, in the same way autos have crumple zones to absorb the impact of a crash.

Wrong, the energy of impact was greater than than the exterior could take and easily entered the WTC. You don't understand physics, so you lie and say it can't happen. Your statements are lies based on ignorance. You don't understand the real world.

supposing the plane had passed through the outer wall, leaving the plane shaped hole, which is not actually plane shaped, no room for the tailfin to pass through, the aluminium plane would then have had to demolish the central support of 47 steel beams, otherwise the tail of the 160 ft long plane would have been dangling out of the hole.

This confirms you think in cartoon physics.

If Flight 11 and 175 were going 200 mph at imapct, they would have crashed and fallen to the ground, slight damage to the exterior, most of the fire remaining outside the WTC. E=1/2mv²The energy of impact has a velocity squared term in it! Very important factor.

Have you ever been abroad?
Why would you part with your passport when abroad - ever? I always have a passport on me when I enter any travel vehicle abroad. Always.

TRUE!

On subway in Tokyo, I had my passport in my camera bag (which is why it was returned to me hours later). I traveled with my passport in Europe, where I could produce it if needed. All the hijackers most likely had their passports on them, or in their carry on. silver birch is not prepared to discuss 911, and associated issues; 12+ years behind on a 10.x year event, not good


In violent high speed aircraft impacts, things can survive in good condition. I have investigated them, paper products can survive, instruments can be ejected as if removed by hand, in perfect condition and where they were installed, the cockpit destroyed.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Unless you turn the Mythbusters loose with a rocket sled...

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