Terrorist Attack in Spain - Over 60 dead

ceo_esq said:
Interesting. CNN.com has now picked up this story, but without details for the moment.
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Yes. Minister Acebes (Interior) said that in a recent press conference, but he has said very clearly and several times that ETA is their principal line of investigation.
 
But Interior Minister Angel Acebes later revealed that an Islamic tape had been found with detonators in a stolen van recovered near Madrid.


The van was found in the town of Alcala de Henares - where three of the four bombed trains originated. The other train passed through the town.

Where the blasts happened
Mr Acebes said the tape - one of seven discovered in the van - contained verses of the Koran, in Arabic, relating to education.

"Because of this, I have just given instructions to the security forces not to rule out any line of investigation," he said.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3502218.stm
 
Theyh give more details in Reuters.com:
We have succeeded in infiltrating the heart of crusader Europe and struck one of the bases of the crusader alliance," said the letter which called the attacks "Operation Death Trains." There was no way of authenticating the letter, a copy of which was faxed to Reuters' office in Dubai by the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper.
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Now let's assume for a moment that Al-Queda or some equivalent of there of carried out this bombing. What is Spain going to do about it? What should Spain do about it?
 
Well, now it's known. Al Qaeda.
I would like to see minister Acebes to present his dimision for this one. He has spent the day creating internal tension against the basques separatist without any significant proof.
Let's see if he is honest enough to admit his faults and accept the consequences.
And now we have the proof of something we the Spanish already knew: we are on Al Qaedas black list. Nice.
 
Peskanov said:
Well, now it's known. Al Qaeda.
I would like to see minister Acebes to present his dimision for this one. He has spent the day creating internal tension against the basques separatist without any significant proof.
Let's see if he is honest enough to admit his faults and accept the consequences.
And now we have the proof of something we the Spanish already knew: we are on Al Qaedas black list. Nice.
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Do you know for sure it's A-Q?
 
Peskanov said:

And now we have the proof of something we the Spanish already knew: we are on Al Qaedas black list. Nice.
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What do you think Spain should do about that?
 
Manifesto; no, I am not sure, but I have few doubts. It never seemed an ETA action. It looked like an radical islamic action this morning, and after this afternoon findings, which alternative remain?

Grammatron; Our president Aznar chose to support US actions in Iraq with more than 90% oposition of the populace. He remained very vocal about it, he made public announcements worldwide, he travelled to the US and offered his support.
He should accept the decission of the citizens. We never supported or accepted US actions, and now we pay for his error. He must retreat in public.
 
Peskanov said:

Grammatron; Our president Aznar chose to support US actions in Iraq with more than 90% oposition of the populace. He remained very vocal about it, he made public announcements worldwide, he travelled to the US and offered his support.
He should accept the decission of the citizens. We never supported or accepted US actions, and now we pay for his error. He must retreat in public.
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I really don't think it's the time to protest the war in Irak.
 
Peskanov said:
He must retreat in public.
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He can't now. If he lets it be know that blowing up trains will make him back off well I don't need to draw you a picture.
 
What keeps AlQ from giving lots of money to ETA?

That's where I'd put my marbles, if I had any. :D
 
Fendetestas, there has been a lot of political statements and manouvres today. And I found many of them very dangerous and agresive. I am sure you can imagine why I am saying this.
If you don't mind, I will say my part also. Not everybody thinks like our govern.

Geni, you are right, but I still think the government made an error and should retreat.
 
Peskanov said:
He should accept the decission of the citizens. We never supported or accepted US actions, and now we pay for his error. He must retreat in public.
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So you believe Spain would be better served by appeasing (by inaction following popular acclaim) Islamo-fascists. One invasion & occupation by your arab buddies wasn't enough?

Do you envision Spain as the last happy, at peace, non-Islamic country after Islam has become the world religion, in part because the USA & GB have become nuclear and/or biological wastelands courtesy of the Islamists?

BTW, if your death toll from these Islamic acts of war double, Spain will be approaching a similar % loss of life as occurred in the US on 9/11.

Maybe ya'all should suck it up & defend western civilization.
 
Peskanov said:
Grammatron; Our president Aznar chose to support US actions in Iraq with more than 90% oposition of the populace. He remained very vocal about it, he made public announcements worldwide, he travelled to the US and offered his support.
He should accept the decission of the citizens. We never supported or accepted US actions, and now we pay for his error. He must retreat in public.
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Ok, so majority did not support Iraq. While an interesting point, it's an all-together separate discussion.

Your country has been attacked by terrorist who let nothing stand in their way and view everyone as infidels. You're putting the blame on Aznar, whether or not he deserves it I do not know, but should anything be done against those terrorists?
 
Hammegk, you are extremist. What can I say? Try to learn about arab countries a bit more. And no, and I don't believe in crusades. They never worked in the past.

Grammatron, terrorist should be captured and prosecuted. I guess you would like me to support the idea of invading libia, yemen, sudan, or any other country with fundamentalism. No, I don't.
 
hammegk said:
Do you envision Spain as the last happy, at peace, non-Islamic country after Islam has become the world religion, in part because the USA & GB have become nuclear and/or biological wastelands courtesy of the Islamists?
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I like the way you are buying Al Qaeda's properganda.
 
Peskanov said:
Grammatron, terrorist should be captured and prosecuted. I guess you would like me to support the idea of invading libia, yemen, sudan, or any other country with fundamentalism. No, I don't.
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I'm not saying you should go around invading everyone, but at the same time to what extent should Spain be willing to go to capture those who do such things?
 
Grammaton, I am very moderated with this questions. I think most arab governments will collaborate in persecuting terrorism (probably in exchange for economic pacts, but I prefer this kind of actions against military ones).

Well, I think I will follow Fendetestas recomendation and stop now. Bye!
 
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