Telekinesiologist now at JREF!

[Jackalgirl]

yes it did work. The only problem is it doesn't work well always. Let's say I am successful at doing it twice. Naturally my mind will think, "too good to be true" and the next two will not work. I just can't help thinking that. All this practice is a matter of flattening out all the doubt accociated with it. The only way to remove the doubt is to practice and see the result. Measuring the amount of practice and the amount of improvement is helping. This will take a bit of time getting used to. As soon as I'm confident enough, this thing will be on youtube in a heartbeat.

No argument with you there. All sorts of things take practice. You're absolutely right about practice removing doubt; so do results, when you can be sure that your test setup controls for anything else that might be involved. When you're good enough to reliably knock down a randomly-generated target out of a selection say, 8 out of 10 times, I think you'd be ready for the JREF test. Keep at it. Believe me -- as a person who's always wanted TK, I am totally rooting for you. : )

 

[TheTelekinesiologist]

Hey, TK. Please read this.

I know I've poked a bit of fun at you so far, but again, I'm trying to be serious here.

I honestly think that you really need more assistance than you're going to get on an internet forum. You'll certainly get some good advice, but I think you might benefit from more one-on-one than is available here.

You're a young lad with an entire lifetime of choices available (by no means limited to your short list) and I think you just need a bit of guidance.

Is there someone at school, a family friend - hell, even a preacher - you can talk to without fear of ridicule?

Give it a go, mate.

I agree. Sometimes I discuss this stuff with my buddies but they don't know anymore than I do. I've been hearing some interesting stuff on some TK forums. Mabye I'll ask them a few questions. I've always wanted to ask the local priest what he thinks about this stuff. I think I might consider it.
Even if I by chance happen to find a person that can do telekinesis, I'll run the risk that he might possibly be a fake. What if I ask a physics teacher at school? I'll even offer to give a demonstration

 

[TheTelekinesiologist]

Try going outside and concentrating on clouds. Use your mind to make them slowly move around. I think you will find that you will be very successful at it.

Are you serious? Mabye I'll try it when its not so windy. Wow. Now you've changed me into a skeptic .

 

[TheTelekinesiologist]

aww man it's getting late...............time to try TK!

 

[Jackalgirl]

What if I ask a physics teacher at school? I'll even offer to give a demonstration

Excellent idea! Especially if you demonstrate using the protocol that's been developed so far. Hopefully, your physics teacher is a good one (by this I mean someone who understands the material he/she teaches rather than just parotting it from a book) and will be able to give you some good pointers on things for which you might want to introduce additional controls.

ETA: This might be a good project to demonstrate critical thinking and experiment design for the whole class, actually.

P.S. Pay no attention to the stuff from this point on. I'm just testing the edit function.

 

[CLD]

Yes, the cloud-moving must be done on a day when you feel no wind.

Also you can try making a candle flame move in certain directions. Like the pinwheel and the clouds, it may take a while to see results, but I think you will find that your powers are extremely effective at doing this.

 

[DangerousBeliefs]

Also, a glass jar would definitily restrict telekinesis by at least 50% if not more. It's already hard enough knocking it off the pin. Putting a jar would make it almost impossible at this stage. I have this theory about telekinesis:

Plastic jar?

Sounds to me like air is definitely what is causing -your- TK and now it's time for excuses.

 

[TheTelekinesiologist]

Plastic jar?

Sounds to me like air is definitely what is causing -your- TK and now it's time for excuses.

I tried it with a glass jar and it still worked(i.e spinned) but I couldn't make it fall off. I also tried it with a plastic jar but nothing worked, nothing! Completely still!

 

[baron]

Nothing involving movement of paper on a pin would convince me. It takes so little air / vibrational movement to disturb that set-up that normal physical causes could never be discounted.

I don't know what all this stuff about jars is about either. Why would air stop moving because it's in a jar? If you puff some smoke into an up-turned jar does it suddenly freeze? Of course not. Even if the jar is totally sealed (like all of them on YouTube aren't) air currents will circulate ad infinitum as air is heated and cooled.

 

[CLD]

I tried it with a glass jar and it still worked(i.e spinned) but I couldn't make it fall off. I also tried it with a plastic jar but nothing worked, nothing! Completely still!

Aha! Of course! When it's spinning - it's you making it spin. And when it's not spinning - your energy is somehow being blocked from reaching it.

 

[Miss Whiplash]

Hmmm.. This was on the market some time ago.

 

[CLD]

Hmmm.. This was on the market some time ago. [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/948845c4eb4ced994.gif[/qimg]

The Energy Wheel. Yup. Definite proof of telekinisis.

 

[Yahzi]

Anyone who thinks I'm a fraud will get their proof sooner or later.

Except Randi.

As far as the $1 millon challenge goes, there are things way more important.

Like, for instance, proving yourself to a bunch of anonymous internet posters.

Srry but I don't want to be on tv and be some freak teen!

You just want to be a freak teen on the JREF boards?

Instead of alien autopsy it'll be teen autopsy!

Well, there is a certain similarity between the two cases...

 

[Yahzi]

Seeing as this is an EDUCATIONAL forum, I wanted to give my knowledge to everyone

But you haven't actually given out any knowledge. Because you don't have any to give: all you have is self-delusion, which we're all quite familiar with already.

Did it not occur to you that we had already heard of, and investigated, everything you will hear about in the next 10 years of your life? Some of us are, you know, old.

If you think about it, it would actually be selfish to keep it all to myself wouldn't it?

Even more selfish of you to let Randi's million lounge around uselessly in the bank, when you could do so much more good with it.

Hmm, I wonder what I'd be learning in school now if Mr.Newton kept all his discoveries to himself...

Earth to ding-a-ling: You're not Newton.

 

[Yahzi]

Aha! Of course! When it's spinning - it's you making it spin. And when it's not spinning - your energy is somehow being blocked from reaching it.

"I can put bricks to sleep!"

It's a Monty Python skit!

 

[Jackalgirl]

I tried it with a glass jar and it still worked(i.e spinned) but I couldn't make it fall off. I also tried it with a plastic jar but nothing worked, nothing! Completely still!

Okay, so you've got a couple of alternate explanations for this. One is that the material is blocking your power. Another is that air currents are causing the effects, and the material is blocking the air.

Again, your experiement with multiple pinwheels is a really good start. An addition would be, maybe, to place some styrofoam packing peanuts around the bases of the pinwheels. As long as the pins are not incredibly tall, this might be something to try. If the mechanism is air, it should affect the peanuts as well as the paper.

ETA: TKist, I just had another thought. You say you're not waving your hands or otherwise moving, which is good. Try getting a face/dust mask. It's not really solid proof, but if the effect is being caused by your breathing, this should help prevent that.

 

[CLD]

To TheTelekinesiologist: how do you know it's not ghosts moving the pinwheel?

 

[Jackalgirl]

To TheTelekinesiologist: how do you know it's not ghosts moving the pinwheel?

Does that matter? I don't think the JREF will care; they generally don't care about the mechanism. What's important is that TKist's tests control for as much as possible, leaving something paranormal (whatever that is) as the only remaining explanation.

 

[Mr. Scott]

Try these, TheTelekinesiologist:

I've had some experience in this. Here are a couple of things you can try:

Since movements of air in a house are random, it's hard to know what caused the pinwheel to move by your mind and what caused it to move for other reasons. Just focus on the pinwheel and will it to move in one direction or the other. Like Geller does, be very willfull and emphatic in your thought command to make it move. When the pinwheel moves the direction you want, remember the state of mind you were in that got it to move and bring that state of mind back next time you try. If the pinwheel moves the opposite direction you want, reverse your emphasis, since for that moment you will have had reverse-telekinesis. Very common! Score it as a success. If the pinwheel doesn't move at all, dismiss it for one of these reasons and don't count it as a failure: 1) You're too tired; 2) You're not tired enough; 3) Air currents are exactly balancing out your will power; 3) Evil spirits; 4) Static electricity from the lights; 4) Make something up.

Also, try depriving yourself of sleep for a few days while keeping in mind that you are going to do incredible feats of telekinesis. Emphatically will your mind to develop these powers. At about 3:00 AM at about the third day without sleep you will be amazed at the incredible feats of telekinesis you will perform. Just avoid using heavy machinery.

Report back to us!

 

[TheTelekinesiologist]

I've had some experience in this. Here are a couple of things you can try:

Since movements of air in a house are random, it's hard to know what caused the pinwheel to move by your mind and what caused it to move for other reasons. Just focus on the pinwheel and will it to move in one direction or the other. Like Geller does, be very willfull and emphatic in your thought command to make it move. When the pinwheel moves the direction you want, remember the state of mind you were in that got it to move and bring that state of mind back next time you try. If the pinwheel moves the opposite direction you want, reverse your emphasis, since for that moment you will have had reverse-telekinesis. Very common! Score it as a success. If the pinwheel doesn't move at all, dismiss it for one of these reasons and don't count it as a failure: 1) You're too tired; 2) You're not tired enough; 3) Air currents are exactly balancing out your will power; 3) Evil spirits; 4) Static electricity from the lights; 4) Make something up.

Also, try depriving yourself of sleep for a few days while keeping in mind that you are going to do incredible feats of telekinesis. Emphatically will your mind to develop these powers. At about 3:00 AM at about the third day without sleep you will be amazed at the incredible feats of telekinesis you will perform. Just avoid using heavy machinery.

Report back to us!

Wow. So you can do telekinesis! Actually you didn't even have to tell me! As I was reading what you wrote, I compared it to my experience and they are definitly the same. The part about "when you are tired telekinesis works better" happened to me last night before I read your message! You are absolutly correct. Last night I was able to move the psi wheel any which way (complete control) and knock it off the pin if I wanted it to. Also, I noticed that the paper was warping (bending) throughout the experience.

I dunno too much about "Evil spirits" but if it were true, that would explain why some days it works and some days it doesn't. Please explain this phenomenon.

Also, the comment you made about "reverse-telekinesis" is actually one of the problems that is hard to fix in the daytime. This ability isn't fullproof yet. I can't just walk into a bar and perform. The stress would definitly limit my success to perform it. Trust me. The first time I performed it to my parents a month ago, the paper was stock still for about 5 min .