Syria and UN Security Council Decision

[trustbutverify]

New lows of naked brutality on full display by the Nazi left.

Not surprised anymore.

 

[Weird Science]

Hey CE, do you now accept the existence of al Qaeda?

I doubt you'll get a straight answer.

So far as I can tell right now, CE thinks that al Quaeda:

1). Doesn't exist;
2). It (or similar organizations) are actually a freedom fighting organization dedicated to fight evil capitalists;
3). Is an evil racist terrorist organization that is a tool of the imperialist west.

Each one of these statements contradicts the other two.

Go figure.

 

[Virus]

Lizzie Phelan works for Russia Today and PressTV.

 

[crimresearch]

I doubt you'll get a straight answer.

So far as I can tell right now, CE thinks that al Quaeda:

1). Doesn't exist;
2). It (or similar organizations) are actually a freedom fighting organization dedicated to fight evil capitalists;
3). Is an evil racist terrorist organization that is a tool of the imperialist west.

Each one of these statements contradicts the other two.

Go figure.

That sort of thing will happen when someone tries to collect the full set of talking points, they never seem to fit neatly in the box.

 

[Pardalis]

The suicide bombing attacks in Damascus certainly appear now to be the work of al-Qaeda.

What evidence do you have.

Al-Zawahiri says alot of things, his video appearance is no proof of anything. He's an opportunist, he'll jump on anything.

 

[Pardalis]

What's rubbish is being lied to over and over again and accepting it instead of searching for outlets which are more committed to the truth. Here's a recent interview with unembedded british journalist Lizzie Phelan about the situation as she found it (in Libya and Syria) and how it gets reported in "the West".


If you prefer to read it, here's a transcript.

Stop posting videos from state-controlled Syrian TV.

The media in Syria is controlled by the regime that is killing its own people.

"I call it because of Western cultural supremacy and that unfortunately the culture of the West is so deeply embedded in peoples minds and hearts"

No ideological spin there...

Certainly she's not an objective journalist, otherwise she wouldn't have said something like this. Professional and responsible journalists don't make this kind of statements.

 

[Pardalis]

I doubt you'll get a straight answer.

So far as I can tell right now, CE thinks that al Quaeda:

1). Doesn't exist;
2). It (or similar organizations) are actually a freedom fighting organization dedicated to fight evil capitalists;
3). Is an evil racist terrorist organization that is a tool of the imperialist west.

Each one of these statements contradicts the other two.

Go figure.

She just picks the one that is more suited for the circumstance.

When the US is the victim of terrorism, they don't exist and they're just a patsy to engage the Muslim world in war. When a brutal dictatorship uses the excuse of terrorism to brutalize its own people, now they suddenly exist and they're in cahoots with the US.

 

[Pardalis]

Lizzie Phelan works for Russia Today and PressTV.

Indeed another biased and ideologically motivated "journalist". She also works for Press TV, the Iranian controlled news outlet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Phelan

Let's add her to Chldlike's long list of unreliable sources. Sibel Edmonds, Thierry Meyssan, PressTV, Russia Today, Pepe Escobar, World Socialist Website... always the same clique of ideologues.

 

[MG1962]

Well things are getting interesting, this report from Reuters - thats an okay source isn't it?

http://news.yahoo.com/lull-homs-shelling-allows-protests-small-exodus-085838907.html

Seems to indicate everyone wants to blame everyone else for the whats going on. The West even took one for the team by not pushing for military intervention

 

[Weird Science]

I checked. According to Press TV, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" are accurate. I've already posted here evidence Syrian state-run TV considers them real, as well.

Well, now we know what sources Childlike Empress considers reliable: the first requirement is that they must believe there's a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

 

[MG1962]

I checked. According to Press TV, the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" are accurate. I've already posted here evidence Syrian state-run TV considers them real, as well.

Well, now we know what sources Childlike Empress considers reliable: the first requirement is that they must believe there's a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

So umm err Reuters is no good

 

[Pardalis]

Well things are getting interesting, this report from Reuters - thats an okay source isn't it?

http://news.yahoo.com/lull-homs-shelling-allows-protests-small-exodus-085838907.html

Seems to indicate everyone wants to blame everyone else for the whats going on. The West even took one for the team by not pushing for military intervention

What exactly is controversial about this?

Every news outlet is reporting the same thing.

 

[Childlike Empress]

What evidence do you have.

It was linked in his linked article and I directly linked to it again. U.S. Officials claim this now, so you better believe it.

 

[Pardalis]

It was linked in his linked article and I directly linked to it again. U.S. Officials claim this now, so you better believe it.

And where is this report?

There doesn't seem to be western journalists or investigative personnel allowed in Syria, so I wonder how he got that information since there is no investigation on the ground.

Those US officials have names?

 

[Childlike Empress]

There doesn't seem to be western journalists or investigative personnel allowed in Syria, so I wonder how he got that information since there is no investigation on the ground.

Patently false. Go to page one of this thread and get yourself a copy of the Arab League Observers Report, it contains a long list of journalists observed entering the country in the last months.

Those US officials have names?

Usually they don't. Ask McClatchy.

 

[Pardalis]

Usually they don't. Ask McClatchy.

So how can one verify McClatchy's claims?

They talk of a report, surely this report should be available to other news outlets.

 

[Childlike Empress]

So how can one verify McClatchy's claims?

They talk of a report, surely this report should be available to other news outlets.

You should add them to your list of unreliable sources, then. I find the turn of events rather bizarre myself.

 

[Pardalis]

You should add them to your list of unreliable sources, then.

Err... You're the one who posted it.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Err... You're the one who posted it.

angrysoba posted an Ha'aretz (add to list, Pardalis) article which contains the link to McClatchy which I posted after that.

 

[Pardalis]

angrysoba posted an Ha'aretz (add to list, Pardalis) article which contains the link to McClatchy which I posted after that.

It's your claim, you posted it.

Maybe it is Al Qaeda who are responsible for those bombings, they are present in Iraq, so it's not a big stretch of the imagination that they might have crossed over to cause even more mayhem. What I have a problem with is you claim it as fact, with no evidence.