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SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread

Battle stations! Arm phasers! Derail off the port bow!:D
MWare said:
Cainkane1 said:
Mars never had a civilization but one day humans may be able to put one up there. I wish Mars did have intelligent beings on it but it doesn't and never has.
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While all of these pictures shown have demonstrated nothing, and at this time there is no evidence that there was ever intelligent life on Mars, how are you able to make this claim with such confidence?
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Well, to be fair, M (owner of one of my favourite avatars), Cainkanel has far more justification in saying that than saying this (bolding mine):

Cainkane1 said:
Wouldn't it be exciting if there were planets with cities. A place with its own traditions and philosophys and such. It didn't happen though. Too bad so sad.
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Just a knitpick, maybe, but an important one IMHO.
 
kitakaze said:
Battle stations! Arm phasers! Derail off the port bow!:D Well, to be fair, M (owner of one of my favourite avatars), Cainkanel has far more justification in saying that than saying this (bolding mine):

Just a knitpick, maybe, but an important one IMHO.
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Fair point. I'm just leery of that kind of certainty on matters where there is so much more data to be gathered.
 
MWare said:
While all of these pictures shown have demonstrated nothing, and at this time there is no evidence that there was ever intelligent life on Mars, how are you able to make this claim with such confidence?
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I'm just quoting the scientists. Earth didn't have a civilization a billion years ago so why Mars have had one?
 
Does SweatyYeti think that, if NASA knew there was undisputable proof of alien life on Mars, it wouldn't be the best-funded organisation in the world? Heck, proof like that for NASA would be like the Suribachi flag-raising photo as it affects the USMC! It would be one of the biggest stories in history, ever.

And yet - not a whisper from NASA. Or any of it's staff. Or anyone sensible.

Anyone here from Bad Astronomy's bad old days will remember "Piper" and Piper's ability to see alien woo in - well, let's just not go there. This is the same.
 
I can't wait until Iapetus shows up somewhere in conversation. It's the bane of my skeptical existence, I swear.

I have seen the most sincere astronomers devolve into full-fledged woowoos overnight. (I almost hate that moon.)

So, before that one gets tossed into the fray, I just want to express that my opinion is that the alleged "wall" on that satellite is nothing more than the fine accumulation of material from one of Saturn's rings. Nothing more.

Mars is not the only body with the illusion of "artificial structures." The solar system is littered with them, apparently.

As Comsat_Angel said, there are people who can see these things in just about anything.

As a final note: .jpegs should never be used for any real analysis, whatsoever.
 
You know when Mars was wet it could have developed intelligent being who could have developed a civilization but Mars lost its liquid water and it didn't happen. I read somewhere that if certain species of bacteria had been on Mars when it was wet would have caused a protective layer of some sort on the planet that would have kept the planet warmer and protected the planet from some of the suns rays. Mars had liquid water before the earth did and it could have happened. Too bad it didn't. I hope when man finally is able to set foot on Mars that they don't find some sort of fossilized creature that could have evolved into a intelligent being. That would compound the tradgedy for me.
 
Cainkane1 said:
I read somewhere that if certain species of bacteria had been on Mars when it was wet would have caused a protective layer of some sort on the planet that would have kept the planet warmer and protected the planet from some of the suns rays.
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My understanding is that in the longer term this wouldn't have mattered. The problem for Mars is twofold:

1) It has a low mass, just 11% that of the Earth's, and that translates into a surface gravity only 38% that of the Earth's. That low surface gravity means the planet would have a hard time retaining its atmosphere over the long term.

2) It has a small magnetic field. A strong magnetic field is important in shielding a planet's atmosphere from the solar wind, since without one the elementary particles streaming from the sun slowly eat away a planet's atmosphere.
 
Corsair 115 said:
My understanding is that in the longer term this wouldn't have mattered. The problem for Mars is twofold:

1) It has a low mass, just 11% that of the Earth's, and that translates into a surface gravity only 38% that of the Earth's. That low surface gravity means the planet would have a hard time retaining its atmosphere over the long term.

2) It has a small magnetic field. A strong magnetic field is important in shielding a planet's atmosphere from the solar wind, since without one the elementary particles streaming from the sun slowly eat away a planet's atmosphere.
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Well intelligent life on mars was screwed from the very beginning. What you say makes sense. Again I say. Too bad so sad. No little green men to greet us when we land there.
 
soetkin said:
About the third picture, I assume Sweaty meant the big rock in the middle that looks like the head of a snarling pig-like animal. No?
Pareidolia is fun.
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No, no! Don't you see? It's the spout of a teapot and the larger object is a teacozy. We are, afterall, talking about civilization here.
 
I just caught National Geographic's 'Is it Real? Life on Mars' episode on youtube and thought Sweaty, as a believer in Martian civilization, might like a boo if he hasn't already seen it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pg91AFk5YFM

I must say, it takes a special sort of determination to hold on to woo like this.
 
Thanks for the link, Kitty! :)

I'm looking forward to watching it later, with my buddy, Marvin...

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Here's the latest find on Mars, courtesy of the Rovers.
It's a nice, shiny rectangular object.....

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Here's the full image...notice how the artificial-looking object is so much more reflective than all the rocks in the picture...almost as if it was metallic...

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Notice also how the ground inside the disturbed ring of soil looks different than the ground outside the ring.

All in all....very anomolous. :)
 
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Babylon Sister said:
No, no! Don't you see? It's the spout of a teapot and the larger object is a teacozy. We are, afterall, talking about civilization here.
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I saw the teapot spout too, but I missed the teacozy (I've always spelled it as "teacosy" though).

At least they had time for tea, although I'd hate to think what it tasted like, what with the low atmospheric pressure causing water to boil at a very low temperature - the water must be at 100 deg C to make proper tea & that just ain't gonna happen on Mars!!!
 
Cuddles said:
Just out of interest, what exactly was the third picture supposed to show? I can at least understand the claims about regular shapes and the second noe has a rock that looks vaguely snake-like, but the third one really does just look like a pile of rocks.
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The 3rd picture has a curved tube-like "rock" in it...and it appears to be hollow.

I increased the contrast, and cropped the image. The object is right in the middle of the picture...

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A close-up, just so it's perfectly clear what I'm refering to....

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