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Survey about creationism

KelvinG said:


Ruby, I think it is a commendable for you to come to a forum and attempt to broaden your horizon on topics you don't know much about. You certainly aren't stupid or thoughtless.
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Thank you!:) I am glad to know there are some kind people on here!
 
anti-Ruby posts

Well - Let me suggest that it's not a great idea to attempt to answer questions with flawed statements, then defend them by stating, "Well don't attack me. I don't have any knowledge to support what I just posted - it's just some platitudes I've heard at church and oh, here's a link to the bogus Institute for Creation Research."

Hint: place disclaimers of lack of any scientific knowledge at the start of you post, not several posts later when you've been called out.
 
Re: Re: Re: Survey about creationism

PygmyPlaidGiraffe said:


Thankyou for participating in a survey and being honest Ruby. The purpose most people come to this forum is to expose themselves to various views and not to look for individuals to insult.

I imagine you already realize there are many people that will debate honorably here, even when there is a difference of opinion or people interpret evidence differently or have different values.

I am impresssed that you are here to consider other views and you are participating in your own learning.

I can only speak for myself as I say, the purpose for me being here is to learn as well. I am working on considering other points of view.
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I guess I don't take insult very well. I love to learn about other points of view...........and not always keen on sharing mine. I avoid debates if I can, but thought the survey would be harmless. I am so pleased to discover that there are some really cool people on these on these forums who have been nice to me considering I am something of a Christian....that dirty word!
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-=Vagrant=- said:
This was meant to be a small insignificant survey, not a name-calling-thread. I'd never call someone, who I've never met, stupid. (Except AForce1)

Thank you for your answers Ruby.
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Thank you!!!!
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Re: anti-Ruby posts

Gregor said:
Well - Let me suggest that it's not a great idea to attempt to answer questions with flawed statements, then defend them by stating, "Well don't attack me. I don't have any knowledge to support what I just posted - it's just some platitudes I've heard at church and oh, here's a link to the bogus Institute for Creation Research."

Hint: place disclaimers of lack of any scientific knowledge at the start of you post, not several posts later when you've been called out.
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Huh?:rolleyes: Are you suggesting that I have falsely accused Cobra of attacking me? Does having a discussion or debate have to include insult in your eyes? If he had not called me *stupid* *thoughtless* and *idiot*, I would not have been upset and would have continued to post to him.

Besides, this thread was a survey, not a debate. Go back and read the first post.

I NEVER EVER once mentioned anything about my information or knowledge on the flood coming from what "I've heard from church". I am way too much of a rebel and a skeptic to just sit like a robot in church believeing all I see and hear. I like to study and research things for myself.

My responses were "One thing is for sure, there are thousands of similar flood stories like the bible account all over the world. The closer you get to Asia Minor, the closer the stories resemble the bible account. Still, this could be legend and myth floating all over the world. There are extra-biblical accounts of the flood like what was found on some ancient babylonian tablets. These tablets talk about the Ark too. There have also been various explorers, scientists, and archeologists who have studied layers in the earth and concluded that in some point in history there was a world wide flood. "

and " I am neither a paleontologist or an archeologist or a geologist. It has only come through reading some scientific studies coupled with the history in many nations that leads me to believe there was a worldwide flood."

Calling any of the links I left "bogus" is just your opinion. If you want to teach me another view, you will have to show me how you feel these links are bogus.

Your hint is noted. In future, I will be sure to make it clear in my opening posts that I don't have proper knowledge of what I am posting about.
 
http://www.talkorigins.org is one of the best resources for info about the origins of life on earth and the subsequent development of the life forms we see around us today.

While there are certainly people who expouse a pro-creationist view who deserve scorn, Ruby here does not appear to be one of those people.
 
I'd have to say that there were some remarkably cruel things said to Ruby. Just because someone doesn't posess your remarkable levels of sheer knowledge doesn't mean they're open season for s**tty comments. Shame on you.
 
Of course some creationists deserve scorn. Scum like Hovind and Gish come to mind.

Ruby, pay no attention to DC. No one else does.
 
Dark Cobra said:
How the HELL can you think the earth is 5000-10 million years old?!
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How the hell do you get off talking to someone like that? No matter what a person may know or not know or know in error, YOU SIMPLY DON"T TALK TO SOMEONE LIKE THAT. You know why? It's not nice. Simple as that. You should have learned that in pre-school.

Everyone can hereby feel free to ignore everything this joker says.
 
Kashyapa said:


How the hell do you get off talking to someone like that? No matter what a person may know or not know or know in error, YOU SIMPLY DON"T TALK TO SOMEONE LIKE THAT. You know why? It's not nice. Simple as that. You should have learned that in pre-school.

Everyone can hereby feel free to ignore everything this joker says.
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DC is just threatened by her femininity.

Ruby, I was going to post earlier in this thread but I just wanted to say that while I find some of your conclusions mind boggling, I'm glad you are sharing them with us and discussing the issue further. :)
 
yohoo - Mr. PC Police

Kashaya

Dark Cobra is free to say anything he wants to that is consistent with the terms of this board. All of his posts have been. So take your pedantic, PC platitudes elsewhere.
 
I"m sorry, but there is no excuse for thinking the world is 6,000 years old. The information is out there, and it is taught to anyone who goes to school.

Only the uneducated or stupid think that the world is 6,000 years old or so.
 
Dark Cobra said:
I"m sorry, but there is no excuse for thinking the world is 6,000 years old. The information is out there, and it is taught to anyone who goes to school.

Only the uneducated or stupid think that the world is 6,000 years old or so.
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So... Is the proper response to say, "You're a dumb@$$ for thinking that," or to question why they think that way and see if you can bring them around to what science has discovered?

I think the uproar is less with your point than with the 'tude you presented it with.
 
Gregor said:
Kashaya

Dark Cobra is free to say anything he wants to that is consistent with the terms of this board. All of his posts have been. So take your pedantic, PC platitudes elsewhere.
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You're $h!tt!ng me right?

Critiquing the style by which someone disagrees with someone who's a newbie minority on a board is PC?

I had no idea that JREF has a PC policy.

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This is an educational forum. We can educate a lot better by saying, "I disagree with you, here's why, and can you accept that," than by just calling people morons and stupid.
 
Re: yohoo - Mr. PC Police

Gregor said:
Kashaya

Dark Cobra is free to say anything he wants to that is consistent with the terms of this board. All of his posts have been. So take your pedantic, PC platitudes elsewhere.
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This isn't an issue of PC. This is an issue of being a normally-functioning social person. This is an issue of civility and general baseline standards of behavior- yeah, you and DC haven't broken any rules, but that still doesn't mean I should accept your adolescent behavior. Yes, some of Ruby's original assumptions are mind boggling- so what? I don't look at her posts and say, "what a #$@!% moron, she doesn't have the right to live", I think, hmm, there's someone with some bad information. Better help her out. She's never been anything but pleasant and open, and she's been receptive to the information she's been given. I notice that you never volunteered any information to her to help enlighten her- nooo, you just bashed her and ran. If you're so boggled at her "ignorance", why don't you try to do something to help her out?

Again, Gregor and DC, your attitudes are poison. I hope (for the sake of the people around you) that you don't feel free to behave this way in your real lives, and that you just hide behind the computer screen to be ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Congradulations, bet you feel all strong and grown-up, now, eh?

Can't believe I've wasted this much time on you. I could continue with speculations as to your age and progress in maturation, but I won't. You're irrelevant. Have the good grace to realize it and slink away.
 
Dark Cobra said:
How the HELL can you think the earth is 5000-10 million years old?!
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I did have you on ignore, but saw your question in someone's post after yours. I will answer, although you will doubtless think I am a moron again.

The reason I put between 5000 and 10 million is because I have not yet studied enough data and info to make a conclusion. Most creationists say the world is around 5000-6000yrs in age. I think evolutionists believe the earth to be billions of years old. When I responded to the survey, I thought it was around 10 million instead of billion. Since I have not reached a descision on the age of the earth, I used both the creationist theory and evolution theory. What I should have put...instead of "between 5000 and 10 million years"...was 5000 OR 10 million years, and stated how I am unsure which one is accurate.

I happen to know several people who believe the earth is only around 5000-6000yrs, and I can assure you, they are not morons.

You need to learn to be open to other people's points of view and beliefs, even if you are certain they are wrong. I feel that you must be young and perhaps not in control of your emotions. I am not saying that to be mean. Forgive me if I am wrong about it.

I used to run a forum...it's on hiatus for now. It was a Christian forum open to people of all beliefs under the sun. If someone posted saying they believed in reincarnation or that John Edwards was really contacting the dead or that there was no God, I could not and would not insult them in any way. I questioned them.....and tried to understand where they were coming from and got in many civil debates..........well, some got heated, but there were not flame wars. Actually, I had more heated debates with Christians themselves. I have too many liberal views for a lot of Christians.

A lot of people of all kinds of personalities and beliefs can be so cool and make the best friends. I have friends who are highly college educated...one a PHD.....one can speak many languages.....another knows history like the back of his hand. I have other friends who can barely spell or form proper sentences. They would make much less sense to you than I do. :p

Anyhow, I know it must be hard to be very intelligent and to feel you are right about something, but don't use it as a weapon to alienate yourself from others. You won't go far in this world like that. My hubby is a brain..he's an engineer with all sorts of other talents. He has learned how to make friends with all sorts too. Even those who look at him with glazed eyes not grasping the things he is saying......sometimes I am one of those:D

My dear hubby even befriended a man who was a *forrest Gump* type. He became his friend and eventually helped him to read better. He never called him a moron.

I know I am rambling on here. I am sorry if you are unhappy in life in any way. Sometimes our frustrations come out on these type of message boards where we are essentially talking to strangers who we can't see. I bear you no malice. I was angry when I first read your insulting posts, but I am not angry now. I chill and forgive pretty quick. Just behave yourself now, ok?

I am interested in your view point on the age of this earth, but as my knowledge is very limited in this area, I can't really debate. I can only *listen* and learn.....and then agree or disagree.;)

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