Student Teaching: Am I Supposed to be THIS miserable?

But has he (or other witnesses) ever actually seen you scream at students, teachers or other people?

Actually you can use the fact that you cry to your advantage. It is a symptom of the stress you are under. It is one point to raise with your lawyer. And if he starts drooling at this point it is not because he has rabies.

I've never screamed at a student, so no.
I did get mad at a professor, once, but he and I worked it out, and he actually teases me about it now.
That's all. My biggest problem is that when I'm stressed, I cry.

I called a couple of lawyers one day last week. Both said they'd need retainers to even look into my situation. I'm broke. I don't work because this is full-time. I don't think I can get a lawyer.

It's okay; it'll all work out somehow. Thank you.
 
I called a couple of lawyers one day last week. Both said they'd need retainers to even look into my situation. I'm broke. I don't work because this is full-time. I don't think I can get a lawyer.

Do you have any relatives you can get money from? You may have to tell them it may be a awhile before they can get their money back. Like after you get a good job. Or win the lawsuit.
 
Nope. No one in my family has that kind of money. I'll keep trying to find someone, maybe pro bono.
 
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Having leaky eyes isn't the same as loosing control or screaming. Really, it isn't. So hopefully he will be on your side. You can win this. It sounds like you only have a week to go with the current situation. You can do it!
 
If you do have a meeting and several people are there make sure you have a friend there too. Even a friendly teacher would be good. Even just to hold her hand. If she can defend you and explain your case then she would put a very powerful case for you.
 
That's not up to me, unfortunately. I can't just bring anyone into these meetings, especially since I'm going to claim, rightfully, that my privacy has been violated on numerous occasions.

There isn't anyone to bring, anyway. But thanks for the advice.
 
Good morning, and welcome to the beginning of the end.

My supervisor will be at the school first thing this morning.
I am bringing my recorder.

I don't expect this to go well at all, and if I'm still in the program by day's end, I will be more surprised than anyone. I'll post later what happens today.

I would have been a great teacher.
 
Good morning, and welcome to the beginning of the end.

My supervisor will be at the school first thing this morning.
I am bringing my recorder.

I don't expect this to go well at all, and if I'm still in the program by day's end, I will be more surprised than anyone. I'll post later what happens today.

I would have been a great teacher.
Good luck! You'll do great! :)
 
Well,, I'm not leaving any classrooms--I have to teach all five classes all semester long, even though we're only supposed to solo teach 8 weeks and I've done that.

I was wrong, I was lazy, I was trying too hard to get out of doing my work.
I need to shape up, and MM is just being tough on me cause that's what I need.

Shut up and teach. So, it's over. Nothing was solved, resolved or satisfied.
I am kissing ass as hard as I can.

Guess what? I officially hate teaching now. But that's my fault too.
Thanks for al the help. Everything's okay now.
 
Well,, I'm not leaving any classrooms--I have to teach all five classes all semester long, even though we're only supposed to solo teach 8 weeks and I've done that.

I was wrong, I was lazy, I was trying too hard to get out of doing my work.
I need to shape up, and MM is just being tough on me cause that's what I need.

Shut up and teach. So, it's over. Nothing was solved, resolved or satisfied.
I am kissing ass as hard as I can.

Guess what? I officially hate teaching now. But that's my fault too.
Thanks for al the help. Everything's okay now.

Know what I think? I think they took a look at 16 single spaced pages of notes on what was going on in their classrooms, and realized you had them by the cojones.

No, this is NOT your fault. It's the fault of the mentors who were so hell bent on putting you through the same sh** they went through when they started teaching, because "that's the way it's done." Frankly, it's the same thing I've gone through with new trucking jobs; a few weeks of macho melodrama, just so you know how tough everyone is.

The good news is you're still at it. They're going to let you continue. Give it your best, Sling. You'll make it, and do yourself proud.

The best thing to keep in mind: When it's your turn to be a mentor, you'll know what to do, and how to do it so people succeed.
 
Oh, no. They never saw my documentation. This wasn't "the meeting," so I didn't bring it. It was just Supervisor, Bitch, and me. The two meetings I was supposed to have were never arranged, and now never will be arranged, so all the documentation is for nothing, since no one will see it now.

I'm keeping it and adding to it, but I'll probably end up just throwing it away in June.

She got angry with me again, in front of him, and he just sat there and let her. This program and the schools are allied against the student teachers.
I met someone else from my program today who is now teaching, and she took one look at me and said "They're doing it to you, too, aren't they?"

So we chatted after school and she told me what I consider the straight dope: The program and the schools are not trying to train new teachers. They are, quite literally, working together to weed out as many of us as they can. If the college graduates only a certain small number of teachers, the program looks tough and well-designed, and gains more prestige.

The program has been totally restructured every year for the last four years. It has had a brand new director three years running, now, and rumor has it, the current director isn't sure she's staying on.

So. I'll just pucker at both ends and try to stick with it. What else can I do; I'm too old to start again.
 
Oh, gawd!

I read that to my husband. He was a driver too, once, and he particularly appreciated the THWACK! Dingdingding… parts. Said he could picture it perfectly. He hauled logs in Georgia and OTR up north, so he knows exactly what you're talking about.

We both had a helluva laugh, thanks!!

And Toad...

:sewub:
 
Just had a thought. A bad thought.

Tomorrow is my mid-term evaluation meeting.
It strikes me as very likely that one or both mentors will say that at the current time they cannot give me a good evaluation, but if I continue to teach the remainder of the semester and work my behind off, they might--might--pass me.

Is that a kind of blackmail, extortion, or some other crime? I bet you, I just bet you, that's what they do tomorrow.
 
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Take your recorder and record it anyway. Then if your mentor gets nasty at you and you do not get nasty to her then you have all the proof you need.
 
Still, I have to wonder exactly how effective their program is if they have to give the appearance of being rough instead of letting their program doing the work for them. Seems like they're more bark than bite.

Brave heart, Sling. You'll get through this because you're tough. Much more tough than some pathetic old teachers who probably aren't that good at teaching anyway. Anybody who tortures starting teachers like that is pretty much a loser anyway, just like anybody else who gets overtly macho at their job: Pathetic.
 
They withdrew me from student teaching today, but I wasn't there for it.

I came down violently ill this morning, went to the school nurse, and she sent me to my doctor--she even made the appointment for me. I've a bad case of stomach flu, so he sent me home. He called my school for me and let them know I was ill.

He gave me some anti-nausea meds and they knocked me out, so I've been asleep all afternoon. I just checked my email, and my supervisor wrote to say they had my eval without me. I called him and asked him if I was withdrawn, and he said I was, but that he wouldn't talk to me about it until tomorrow.

I don't know if I'm with drawn from the program entirely, or if it's just from this semester and I can finish next fall.

Was it illegal or unethical for them to do this without me?
 
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Thanks, guys.

I spoke just now with one of the education staff from my college, a professor I worked with last year, and she said she doubted I had been withdrawn entirely--just for this semester, and that I can finish out next fall. But she couldn't promise that, and I wouldn't expect her to make such an agreement over the phone, anyway.

However, she hadn't even heard I'd been asked to leave the school today, and she said if I had been withdrawn from the program entirely, she thinks she would have known.

I think I know what some of you will say to this next, but I have to tell you, I feel like such a failure. I'll keep plugging away at this, however.

And thanks again for all the good advice and good wishes. You've meant a lot to me these past few weeks, and I'm proud to know you all.
 

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