StopSylviaBrowne - Your Help With 1996 Predictions

[derail] I just added a tag - sylvia browne predictions. That will be useful for you for 2003 and later years.

Also if you put that tag on similar threads then that is one easy way to link all the threads together so that in future if a person finds one thread they can find the others. [/derail]
 
The problem with that is, I do not want to discourage people from researching those predictions for which opinions have already been posted. Additional research may uncover something helpful, including additional and possibly better supporting links.

I think that once I have finished an article on a year's list, I will add a post to this thread, pointing to the thread announcing the article being added to the site.

Fair enough?

Sounds good. I just thought it might get to a point where you have lots of good information, links, and opinions for 3/4 of the predictions but for the remaining 1/4 it's been much harder to find information with credible links. I completely understand wanting to leave it open to collect more and possible better information though. :)
 
"HEALT-1: Gradual health reforms begin in consideration of the elderly and physically challenged."

I find this one particularly odd. Are we to assume that these predictions are for the US unless otherwise specified? What about specific states and/or cities? What does she mean by "begin in consideration..."? That, to me, implies that there is simply an overall health reform that may have began as an initiative for the elderly/handicapped.

So, we have a health reform that is gradual that occurs somewhere in the world. How helpful! I don't know where I would have been without Sylvia telling me this piece of information.

Unless we can make some sense out of the vagueness of this prediction, I don't know if we can even begin to research it.

Having watched Sylvia's dumb shows quite a number of times, I can say that it's probably safe to assume that she's talking about the US when she makes a prediction without naming a country. Good old American ethnocentrism *sigh*
 
HEALT-2: A preliminary vaccine for AIDS is tested on a control group; findings are favorable.

WRONG! Isn't a "control group" by definition the group that doesn't receive the treatment?

As another post mentioned, there were some trials in their early stages shortly before 1996, so this would have been a pretty safe prediction for Sylvia to make, and a very difficult one to disprove since "findings are favorable" is a vague statement. There were no final findings in 1996, and we know that all subsequent final findings have been unfavorable, but the term "findings" could also mean preliminary results of some kind.

The only hope of finding a definitive answer is if there were no findings at all in 1996 because the trials were too early in phase I to have even preliminary findings. I don't know if that was the case or not, but I did find some information here: http://www.avac.org/timeline.htm

1996

Early-phase AIDS vaccine trials have already been conducted in US by NIH through it AIDS Vaccine Evaluation Group, by Walter Reed Army Institute with Thai government, and by US and European pharmaceutical and biotech companies in US, Europe, Thailand, Brazil and China.

The NIH AIDS Vaccine Evaluation Group, Walter Reed, and the Thai government would be a good place to start to see if any of these trials resulted in anything favorable or were too early to produce any findings at all.

This document shows some of the major studies that were underway in 1996, and would also be a good place to start looking.

This document contains an article written in 1996 entitled "Progress In AIDS Vaccine Development":

At first glance, prospects for rapid advances in the development of an AIDS vaccine appear bleak. Only a limited number of approaches are being actively pursued, most of them based on a subtype of HIV found in less than 10 percent of the world’s AIDS cases. Few experimental vaccines appear ready to move into large human studies. With a few notable exceptions, the leading pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies have steered clear of major investments in the field. Asked recently about the state of AIDS vaccines in development, Dani Bolognesi, a leading U.S. researcher, observed that “the pipeline is almost shut down.”

But the same article goes on to say:

Preliminary studies in the United States and France suggest that the first two ALVAC products are safe and can induce some cellular and antibody response in humans. Data from early studies using lower doses of vCP205 show that 25 to 50 percent of participants had new cellular responses to HIV. Higher doses of the vaccines appear to generate greater cellular responses.

That could probably qualify as "favorable findings" but I suspect that those trials were already underway when Sylvia made her prediction.

-Bri
 
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POLIT-4: Another "Million Man March" in the South to show solidarity.

There was a Million Woman March, a Million Youth March and a Millions More March, but none were in the south in 1996.

I would imagine that this would be the definitive source on this: http://www.millionmanmarch.org/history.htm

Since that first march on Oct. 16, 1995, there have been Million Woman, Youth and Family marches, in addition to many other offshoots tapping into the popular name, like the Million Mom March and the recent Million Worker March.

There was no Million Man March in 1996 mentioned on the site.

But there was a Spike Lee movie that came out in 1996 called "Get on the Bus" about some men going on a trip to participate in the Million Man March. And I'm sure the movie was shown in the South!

-Bri
 
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I really appreciate your work and would love to help out!

I've taken a look at WEATH-1: California is in for a 2 year dry spell. Some rains in February, but not much.

I found a link to the California Department of Water Resources that provides background on droughts and precipitation levels in California. I'm a new member with so I apparently can't put down the url for the site, but it can be found by searching for the California Department of Water Resources and clinking on the link on the right side to "Drought Preparedness," which brings up the watersupplyconditions page. Then click on the link to the left side that says "Background -- Drought in California"

I'm not smart enough to figure out how to insert the precipitation bar chart contained in the link in this message, but it shows precipitation levels of roughly 175% of normal for 1995, roughly 90% of normal for 1996, roughly 190% of normal for 1997, and roughly 120% of normal for 1998.

I'm still trying to find for more exact figures, but this certainly demonstrates that California did not experience a two-year dry spell. In fact, the link contains a listing of the major multiyear historical dry period for California between 1850 and 2000. The only dry period identified in the 90's was the 1987/1992 timeframe.

Keep up the good work!
 
Thanks everyone! I will be knitting this all into an article over the weekend.

If anyone has any additional thoughts, links, whatever - keep chiming in!
 
Here is information on Sylvia's Bosnia prediction. I'm a new member so I can't yet provide any supporting links with this message, but I will provide them Mr. Lancaster separately. This may be too much information, but I thought it would be helpful to post on this forum.

1. Prediction. International 1: The war in Bosnia will not be squelched until late July; troops are sent in.

2. Score. Assuming the prediction is in two parts: WRONG and ALREADY KNOWN.

3. Facts and analysis

a. The war is widely recognized as coming to a close on December 14, 1995, with the signing of the Dayton Peace Agreement in Paris. For example, Time magazine published a timeline on the Bosnia war, which shows the war ending with the Dayton Peace Agreement in 1995. The Washington Post published a timeline for 1991-1998 that does not identify any major acts of hostility after the Dayton Agreement was signed. The first sentence of the Wikipedia entry on the Bosnia War states: "The War in Bosnia and Herzegovina, commonly known as the Bosnian War, was an international armed conflict that took place between March 1992 and November 1995." In fact, by December 27th, Government and rebel Serb troops pull back from area around Sarajevo to meet first deadline of the Dayton Agreement. There was no instance after this point in which these troops reestablished their positions and again took up the war.

b. The Dayton Peace Accord agreement had been negotiated in principle three weeks previously in Dayton, Ohio, on November 21, 1995. At the time, President Clinton renewed his commitment to send 20,000 troops to Bosnia as part of a U.S.-led NATO peace keeping force, which was eventually to include 60,000 troops from the U.S. and other countries. There was significant debate in Congress and in the media regarding the wisdom of sending troops into Bosnia. There was great concern about terrorism, the escalation of hostilities in the region, and the loss of U.S. lives. It is quite possible that these concerns and the media discussion regarding these issues lead Sylvia to make this prediction.

c. The reality is the cease-fire held and the hostilities between the parties stopped with the signing of the Dayton Agreement, although not without isolated instances of problems. The success was touted by the administration. On June 14, 1996, for example, Anthony Lake, who served as Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, gave a speech on "Bosnia after Dayton" before an audience at Georgetown University. In the speech, he explained how the cease-fire held, stating:

"IFOR [the NATO Implementation Force] has maintained the cease-fire and compelled the parties to pull back their forces and weapons from a 3-mile wide separation zone -- without significant incident. Nearly all heavy weapons have been placed under IFOR supervision and many will be destroyed as part of the arms control agreement to be signed in the next few days. Already, more than 100,000 soldiers not based in barracks have been demobilized. And hundreds of square miles of territory were transferred from one entity to another without a shot being fired. IFOR also has stopped the widespread killing of civilians and restored security to Sarajevo, where people now walk the streets in safety. Virtually all prisoners of war have been released and those few still in custody are being held as war crimes suspects. IFOR has moved aggressively to take down internal checkpoints and, while far from perfect, freedom of movement has improved -- between ten and fifteen thousand people cross the boundary between the Bosnia-Croat Federation and the Serb Republic every day."

d. The prediction is wrong no matter how you interpret it. While its clear that peace-keeping forces were required to ensure that all parties complied with the terms of the Dayton Agreement, there was really no "war" to "squelch" by July 1996, as it ended on December 14, 1995. NATO troops went to Bosnia to implement the Dayton agreement, not to stop or "squelch" the conflict. Nor was there anything that was "squelched" in July 1996. NATO troops remained in Bosnia for many years performing essentially the same role and function they did when troops were introduced in 1995. Thus, there was nothing of consequence that ended in any sense in July 1996.

e. The prediction that "troops are called in" is difficult to interpret as there is so little information to go on. Called in when? To do what? Troops from what country? There were already U.N. peacekeeping troops in Bosnia in 1995. It is likely that Sylvia is referring to only U.S. troops. The fact is that it was well known, certainly by November 1995, that President Clinton intended to send U.S. troops into Bosnia. President Clinton renewed his commitment to send in troops when the Dayton Agreement was first announced on November 21, 1995, well before the predictions were published on November 30, 1995. The best that can be said about this portion of the prediction is that the facts supporting the prediction were already known.
 
ECONO-3: Stock market keeps rising until February, then levels out and begins to go down. Not a plunge, just a downward trend.

My only comment so far is : are we assuming the US stock market - and which indicator?

There are plenty of stock markets in the world, and different indicators to use for each one (for instance the London Stock Exchange is usually measured using the FTSE 100, but that is by no means the only possible indicator)

Seems a pretty vague prediction to me, even if you assume which market and which indicator..but surely you shouldn't have to assume so much?
 
On Bob Dole, using Time. I'd put "common sense", or more accurately "plagiarism"

In March '95 he was the main frontrunner of undeclared Republicans
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,982648-1,00.html
"Each of the three leading contenders at this point (Dole, Gramm and Alexander) "

April '95: Declaring he will run
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,3555,00.html
Dole enters the race as the clear front runner

And was repeatedly called the "frontrunner":
April 27 1995 ("President's leading rival")
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,3726,00.html
May 17 ("Republican Frontrunner")
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,3865,00.html
In June 1995 he was going to "romp" the other runners and win " 50% of those [Iowa] ballots."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,983017,00.html
"Strengthen his lead" June 5, 1995
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,982992,00.html
And when discussing Newt's run, Dole is the main opponent ("far behind Dole"):
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,4046,00.html
And he had lots of money June 29 ("frontrunner", "raised twice as much as nearest rival")
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,4243,00.html
Still the frontrunner in July, Time starts matching Dove vs. Clinton:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,4398,00.html
He was leading in August
"Dole (35 percent), Phil Gramm (9 percent) and Pat Buchanan (8 percent)."
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,4624,00.html
And September:
"Dole retains a commanding lead in the polls, but he's slipping a bit."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,983374,00.html


Hope this helps.
 
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CELEB-4: Liz Taylor finds a new man, from the world of cosmetics
UNKNOWN/UNKNOWABLE
Liz Taylor Spent much of 1996 divorcing Larry Fortensky however I can find no public speculation of a relationship with anybody else other than the highly dubious suggestion that she was lining up Michael Jackson for wedding number 9. (From the world of cosmetic surgery perhaps?)

You'd expect any such public speculation to reach various gossip pages but nothing was found on the usenet celebrity gossip group

I find this extremely unlikley, all the evidence points against it.

However even if I read every gossip magazine printed throughout all of 1996 and nothing was mentioned of any new love this wouldn't necessarliy disprove SB's prediction. Liz's personal life whilst the subject of much speculation remains a subject upon which only she has the last word and even then, public statements cannot be taken at face value.
 
CELEB-3: Sylvester Stallone marries a woman not in modeling whom he meets at a horse ranch.
WRONG
Sly has been married three times:
to Sasha Czack (1974–1985)
to Brigitte Nielsen (1985–1987)
and to Jennifer Flavin (1997–present).

In 1996 he was with long term on off partner Jennifer Flavin (who was a model)
Flavin was pregnant with their daughter Sophia, he had already met years ealier when she was 19. No suggestion that it had been at a horse ranch. They didn't wed until 1997

http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id443.htm
 
CELEB-2: John Travolta has another baby
WRONG
John Travolta's First baby with Kelly Preston was Jett born on 13th April 1992 This Sylvia would aready have known. 4 years seems a reasonable gap between children and so this would seem a good guess but their next child Ella Blue was not born until 3rd April 2000

http://celebroyaltykids.web-log.nl/royalty_celeb_kids/celebkids_jett_ella_travolta/index.html

There's no suggestion that he's had a secret child with another woman.
 
CELEB-1: Sandra Bullock gets married, it only lasts 4 months. She then goes away to a retreat to regroup.
WRONG
In 1995 Sandra Bullock split with former fiance Tate Donovan.


Eventually, she traded the stress of joblessness for the stress of wondering by what miraculous means her career might survive 1992's Love Potion No. 9, an embarrassingly B-grade romantic comedy about lovelorn scientists. Though the film did nothing to improve her professional outlook, it did introduce her to actor Tate Donovan, with whom she remained romantically involved for the next three years.
http://www.fotobucket.org/sandra_bullock.php

She was reportedly Heavily damaged by the split so a typically brief hollywood marriage on the rebound could have been on the cards.

she'd already signed up for her first lead role, in While You Were Sleeping, Demi Moore having dropped out after a dispute over her fee. It wasn't going to be easy. The role called for relentless good humour, and Sandra was badly damaged by a split with Tate Donovan
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/sandra_bullock_biog/6

However this was not to be. She remains unmarried though 1996. Instead a couple of years ago she met and Married Jessie James.

Then 2004 saw her dating the tattooed Jesse James, owner of the celebrity motorbike manufacturer West Coast Chopper and star of his own TV show. Most saw the relationship as a disaster waiting to happen, but Bullock's joie de vivre and James' daredevil nature made for a fine coupling and the pair would marry in July, 2005.

This was her first marriage http://marriage.about.com/od/entertainmen1/p/sandrabullock.htm
 
1. Prediction. INATL-2: A nuclear test moratorium is imposed on France.

2. Score. WRONG

3. Facts.

a. On June 13, 1995, France's president Jacques Chirac announced that France would conduct 8 nuclear tests between September 1995 and May 1996. On August 10, 1995, Chirac stated that, once its testing was complete, it would halt all nuclear tests. France also announced that it favored a Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty that would prohibit any nuclear test or nuclear explosion.

b. After France conducted six tests in the South Pacific, Chirac announced the end to French testing on January 27, 1996.

c. While there was some political pressure on France to stop the testing, there was, in no sense, a moratorium on the testing "imposed" on France. CNN reported, for example, that "[w]hile the testing outraged Australia, New Zealand and other South Pacific countries, it did not elicit a strong negative response from France's major allies such as the United States, Britain and Germany."

d. Two years later, France and Great Britian voluntarily ratified the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (something the U.S. has not done).

4. Links. Provided separately.
 
QUAKE-1: Mexico has another large earthquake in December, near 6.9 magnitude.
QUAKE-2: Southern California has two small quakes, one in January and another in October.
QUAKE-3: Northern California has a small quake in February, near Livermore or Modesto.

Quake 1: This one ranks as actually fairly specific, which makes it easy to disprove: The only 6.0+ earthquakes in Mexico after January 1996 happened in 1999 and 2003.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php
So: WRONG

Quake 2: A small earthquake? In California?! etc. etc.
But we can do this. In 1996, SoCo (using Lat 33-38, Lon -113 -123) and Nevada (since I have to use a Lat/Lon rectangle) had 446 measurable earthquakes. 74 in January and 28 in October. Lets see how that measures up

Jan 1993: 27
Oct 1993: 72
Jan 1994: 611 <- :eek:
Oct 1994: 43
Jan 1995: 45
Oct 1995: 43
Jan 1996: 74
Oct 1996: 28

Historically, California has had more than 10 measurable earthquakes every January for the last quarter century, which is as far back as I care to go.
So: Common Sense
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/epic/epic_rect.html

Quake 3: Wrong. (using same tool as above)
Modesto, CA in Feb 1996 was quake free.
Latitude: 37.750N - 37.490N
Longitude: 120.750W - 121.099W

Livermore, CA in Feb 1996 was quake free
Latitude: 37.770N - 37.580N
Longitude: 121.610W - 121.879W
 
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HEALT-1: Health Reforms: Common Sense: There are always health reforms. However, under Bill Clinton's presidency there were ongoing attempts to reform health care dramatically (it was one of his major campaign promises), eventually spearheaded by then First Lady Hillary Clinton. Clinton's huge plan was famously blocked from passing in 1994, even with a Democratic majority in Congress. Time looked forward to smaller health care change attempts in this Oct 1994 article
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2060,00.html
and Time commented on Hillary's exit from the team in November 1994
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2210,00.html

HEALT-4: Unknown: Water Pollution in the Southern US doesn't seem to score any valid search results in any research area, and Google gives me nothing solid.
 
ECONO-3: Stock market keeps rising until February, then levels out and begins to go down. Not a plunge, just a downward trend.

YAHOO LINK
Here's DJIA from Jan 1 1996-Jan 1 1997 You can turn on the Nasdaq and S&P500 on the left. They pretty much follow the DOW's path for the year, though.
The DOW certainly rose until February, then leveled out, dipped in July and rose again until the end of the year. The problem with this chart view is that it exaggerates the rises and falls. The high/low for the DOW in all of 1996 were 5000 in Jan and 6600 in November.

Interestingly, the Dow had the same January climb in 1995. And 1994. In 1993 there was a January rise, then a dip, then a steady climb. Perhaps some stock savvy poster could tell us why the indicies always jump in January (maybe it's after the Christmas break or something).


On the whole, though :Wrong.
 
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