So, Cain is better than Bill Clinton.

[Brainster]

By the way, who leaked the story? I would find it interesting if it was Romney's camp only for the fact that either Romney or everyone else makes a big deal, it seems, about Romney being a Mormon. Cain had a couple of issues. How many issues -- well, marrages -- did the Mormon prophet, Joesph Smith have with married women while they were still married?

I'm not sure if the current field has all the same marital background as in 2008, but Romney came up with a pretty good quip that year, noting that for all the talk of plural marriage among Mormons, he was the only GOP candidate who'd only been married once.

BTW, the assumption among those in the know is that Cain's problems with sexual harassment lawsuits was leaked by Perry's campaign.

Either that or the Jews.

 

[SezMe]

The point is this. They were settled and did not drag on forever. That makes Cain a better choice for president than Bill Clinton.

Nope. Cain says he knew nothing of the settlements. So he gets no credit. Actually, it's worse. As head of the NRA if he, in fact, did not know of the settlements, he is an incompetent executive.

Your choice, Bill. Which way do you want to go with this? He knew and is thus a liar or he didn't know and is incompetent. Have fun choosing.

 

[Ausmerican]

So, basically, what the media is currently saying is that Cain is a better and more respectable man than Bill Clinton. I understand there was some law suits regarding women. The point is this. They were settled and did not drag on forever. That makes Cain a better choice for president than Bill Clinton.

Because he pays the women afterwards?

 

[NotJesus]

I did not get that from Fox News, nor will I give it to them.

Oh. So you made it up.

 

[LukeB]

Ah, Fox News. Of course, according to them, nearly everyone is better and more respectable than Bill Clinton.

You mean Bill Clinton: Criminal Mastermind. Is there something in the water over there that causes some Americans to have this deranged fixation on a man that's been out of office for a decade?

 

[Multivac]

But now that you mention it, isn't everyone better and more respectable than Bill Clinton?

IMHO Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents America ever had.

 

[SezMe]

Is there something in the water over there that causes some Americans to have this deranged fixation on a man that's been out of office for a decade?

No, it's in the air - Fox News.

 

[Crossbow]

So, basically, what the media is currently saying is that Cain is a better and more respectable man than Bill Clinton. I understand there was some law suits regarding women. The point is this. They were settled and did not drag on forever. That makes Cain a better choice for president than Bill Clinton.

By the way, who leaked the story? I would find it interesting if it was Romney's camp only for the fact that either Romney or everyone else makes a big deal, it seems, about Romney being a Mormon. Cain had a couple of issues. How many issues -- well, marrages -- did the Mormon prophet, Joesph Smith have with married women while they were still married?

Also, I would like to see a black guy, named Cain, beat a proud Mormon for the GOP nomination.

So is Cain going to get a house for the people in California to replace the houses that were lost due to Clinton?

 

[Bikewer]

To date, Cain has impressed me as being utterly unfit for high office. I think his ultimate qualification in the minds of conservatives is that he's not a Mormon.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I predict that can of worms has only just barely opened.

because?

what leads to this prediction?

Stories in today's news that one of the allegers is asking the NRA to allow her to make a public statement without breaking the confidentiality agreement, for example. And the stories of other allegers that are, as someone said, now coming out of the woodwork.

Do you remember how long sexual harassment allegations dragged on with Clinton?

You mean Cain is arguably better at mistreating women?

Are you joking?

Just trying to parse your thread title. But yes, I find it laughable, and was trying to illustrate my point humorously.

How do you figure Cain is better than Clinton? Cain thinks killing people with an electrified fence is a laughing matter (or does he?). His position on abortion is incoherent. His economic policy looks like something suggested by a 5th grader.

And while he was in charge of the National Restaurant Association, he apparently settled with someone making allegations of sexual harassment for something like a year's salary. Again, exactly how do you figure Cain is better than Clinton? Better at covering up sexual harassment allegations? Isn't that pretty much what I said (arguably better at mistreating women)? (See above anyway--it remains to be seen whether Cain is even better at dealing with these allegations.)

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

To date, Cain has impressed me as being utterly unfit for high office. I think his ultimate qualification in the minds of conservatives is that he's not a Mormon.

OMFSM! It just occurred to me: the same brilliant minds who thought they might take some of the women's vote from the Democrats by running Palin on the ticket might think they can take some of the black vote by running Cain on a ticket this time around!

Romney-Cain?

 

[Biscuit]

It shows an ability to manage affairs, whatever those affairs might be.

So like Joe said he is better at mistreating women and getting away with it. How is that a quality in a leader?

Perhaps you could provide an example of Cain managing his affairs for the benefit of others and not his libido?

I think you guys are wrong. It does show an ability to TCB.

Its early. What is TCB?

You would not be blinded by ideology, would you?

Not really I just don't see the point of saying Cain is better at being bad and thus would be a better president than Clinton. Its been a decade since Clinton was in office, thats like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Upchurch]

But now that you mention it, isn't everyone better and more respectable than Bill Clinton?

I can think of worse.

 

[Tricky]

I'm not sure if the current field has all the same marital background as in 2008, but Romney came up with a pretty good quip that year, noting that for all the talk of plural marriage among Mormons, he was the only GOP candidate who'd only been married once.

BTW, the assumption among those in the know is that Cain's problems with sexual harassment lawsuits was leaked by Perry's campaign.

Either that or the Jews.

Personally, I suspect it was leaked by one of the women themselves. The on woman already had a lawyer asking if he could make a statement for her. That shows a fairly high degree of preparedness for this brouhaha. I'm sure her lawyer knew who to slip the information to if he wanted to get it into the news. I don't doubt that she is still angry about this.

 

[Tricky]

OMFSM! It just occurred to me: the same brilliant minds who thought they might take some of the women's vote from the Democrats by running Palin on the ticket might think they can take some of the black vote by running Cain on a ticket this time around!

Romney-Cain?

Great minds think alike.

His proposals are simplistic and unworkable, but not crazy. In fact, the clever part is that he knows that Americans crave simplicity. He's not Santorum with his rabid homophobia or Ron Paul with his Libertopia or Bachmann with her... well... pick one. He's a salesman. He's got a clever slogan for his product. It is working to increase his "sales".

And all that is why he makes an interesting choice for Veep. The Vice President doesn't have any real powers. His job is mostly sales, i.e. selling the administration policies to the people. That's why the GOP has picked attractive unknowns like Palin and Quayle, because they thought a pretty face would be good marketing. What they really need is a salesman, not a pretty face, and Cain fits the bill.

 

[Drysdale]

OMFSM! It just occurred to me: the same brilliant minds who thought they might take some of the women's vote from the Democrats by running Palin on the ticket might think they can take some of the black vote by running Cain on a ticket this time around!

Romney-Cain?

I'm not sure it's that at all.

I think it's more he's the most conservative of the bunch excluding Bachman possibly.

Romney in particular is just Bush, McCain part deux.

 

[Papermache]

[BeAChooser]On the plus side, there is little evidence that Cain had Ron Brown or Vince Foster killed.[/BeAChooser]

 

[Cleon]

So, basically, what the media is currently saying is that Cain is a better and more respectable man than Bill Clinton.

I wasn't aware that "the media" spoke with a single voice. Does Media Metatron have a website somewhere?

 

[Upchurch]

OMFSM! It just occurred to me: the same brilliant minds who thought they might take some of the women's vote from the Democrats by running Palin on the ticket might think they can take some of the black vote by running Cain on a ticket this time around!

Yeppers. I don't know if running Cain would be quite as baldly cynical as running Palin in the wake of Clinton's primary defeat, but it would have to be fairly close.

On the plus side, it took the GOP 24 years to imitate the Democrats running a woman for VP. This time it only took 4 years for them to (attempt to, success pending) run a black man for President.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Its early. What is TCB?

Take care of business.

Presumably, in this context, that means the ability to settle sexual harassment allegations with a confidentiality agreement is admirable and shows that he can manage the problems that face whoever is in the office of president (global warming, high unemployment, gridlocked Congress, Israel/Palestine, etc.)

I really really hope this isn't the criterion Bill Thompson uses in casting his vote.