Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters

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Yeah. I remember when a poster here (Diogenes?) wrote about the "Wallace line" in alleged bigfoot footprints. I had that "that was weird" reaction.

Like when I "saw" a two-headed guineafowl (pareidolia at its best) just before a discussion right here on the reliability of sighting reports...
 
Did anyone already put this up? Fun news spot:

Bigfoot in Arizona.

Man shoots bigfoot, gets a little faklempt recalling it. Biscardi provides commentary, points out Native humaniform pictographs on rocks. Don't miss crouching BF.
 
SARCASM-> The witness seemed sincere, don't you think? Why woud he lie?

Well, aren't bigfeet supposed to be creatures of dense forests? Was that a PNW-like forest? Or any thick forested area?

There's the hand also...
 
So let me get this right. Ol' Snitch doesn't think sasquatch exists, but not only is ol' Snitch not content in banging on about this here on JREF but he's also going to all these other sasquatch related boards and lurking and reading everything he can on the subject, and even commenting here on what he has read there.

I wonder if I ever become so obsessed about something I don't think exists that maybe I should contact my doctor.......coz that just ain't natural ladies and gents. In fact, that is downright bloody weird behaviour.

I always thought ol' Snitch was a couple of marmite sarnies short of a picnic. Now I KNOW it.

Too funny.
 
Diogenes wrote:
Then I'm sure you will have no problem producing that proof ..
I'm sure there's NO REASON to, Greg.

This is an issue that exists only in your head. :)

Actually, if you're not too busy later...why don't you have ANOTHER major Skepti-gasm over it!! :D
 
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Hey Lyndon, good to see you back here....don't stay too long, though! ;)

Did you catch my production of "Kitty Goes Nuts"??
Here's the end of it...just in case you missed it.....

"Sweaty believes he has evidence that I have hostility problems".

Oh...wait a second....there's ONE more thing kitty would like to say before we conclude this episode of "Kitty Goes Nuts".....

"Sweaty, I can only offer my sincere testimony that I have a wonderfully interesting, fulfilling, and well-balanced life devoid of anything in the way of anger/hostility problems or major personal problems ......

...and...in addition...let me say...

....."I will readily admit to having insulted you, been hostile to you, and accused you of various things".


Like you say, Lyndon....."Too funny"! :D
 
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What was that, specifically? Maybe I missed it.

I was referring to a real-life meeting at Books-a-Million in Asheville, NC, last night. I didn't see you there.

Why's that and how would you like informed BF skepticism to be represented?

I mean scepticism in general.

I have a real life friend who was trained as a fundamentalist minister. We debate creation vs. "evolutionism" nearly every time we talk. We never get into heated arguments and we both learn. If he were ever to imply I'm delusional, obtuse, stupid, ridiculous or a "wacko" for not agreeing with him, our friendship would end in a heartbeat. The same would happen if I were to do that to him.

I see way too much mockery on the board. That's not good debate, IMO. I would like to see debate on this and other boards carried out with respect for varying points of view and no attempts to humiliate the opposition into submission.

The model sceptic, I think, could be Saskeptic on BFF.

Respectfully, it's not a matter of 'I say/you say'. There is no evidence of bigfoot that has withstood rigourous scientific scrutiny.

I disagree. There's quite a bit. Of course with mainstream science not examining it at all I'm not sure how we're going to define "rigourous scientific scrutiny".

Such a notion is ridiculous for a such a creature that has been reported from Alaska to Iowa to Florida.

And the Aidirondacks.

Again, LAL, why doesn't ongoing field research of Vancouver Island Marmots encounter reliable evidence of bigfoot? If you don't have a good answer then maybe you can e-mail Bindernagel on the matter. Why hasn't heavy hunting activity in the Adironacks brought down a sasquatch?

How many Marmot studies and deer hunts are conducted at night? I don't know that Marmot studies haven't turned up anything else.

Why didn't poachers in Skamania County hunting with dogs at night bag sasquatches instead of bear?

Can you understand the incredulity when skilled pursuers come up with nothing after decades of trying?

Nothing? Hm. They might not think it's nothing. Which pursuers do you have in mind?

Everywhere, yet nowhere.It most certainly hasn't. That's a fact, not an opinion.This is baseless credulity, IMO. South Africa, U.K., Australia, New Zealand, Afghanistan, etc. Everywhere, yet nowhere.

And why is that a fact and not an opinion? Is the evidence as good anywhere else as it is for the PNW?

Do you think Yeti and sasquatches are alike?

Did you actually read T. Lancaster's OP AND the links he provided?

Of course. If you read the debate you must know I pointed out some of the links didn't work.

He said 200 miles of open water, but in what era? There's no need for a breeding population to make the trek all at once. Looks like from Vietnam to the islands could all be accomplished by land while water levels were low. Perhaps those islands were connected to mainland Australia at some time. I wasn't able to find much on Australian Land Bridges, so I don't know just what was connected when.

How well did you read the information you just provided? Did you notice the big blue spot in the middle?

Look at the route through the islands.

I've read monkeys could have gotten to South America by floating on big rafts of flotsam. I think that was a serious suggestion. A northern route is more acceptable, but where are the fossils? A primate tooth was found at John Day, which was 20-22 million years old, but where are the rest? Where are the monkey fossils that "should" be strewn all down the continent and through central America? And across Europe?

Australia has never had any type of connection that wouldn't necessitate some MAJOR swimming for gigantopithecus to get there. You have to engage in some major baseless speculation now.

Which I prefer not to do. I did get a chance to read your last link last night and that does sound like what people see here, but I've seen a youtube of a little towheaded thing running off and that didnt.

I really don't have time to get into this that deeply and about all I have to say, is the Wallace Line is not a wall.

Homo erectus got to Flores somehow (I've read it was never connected to the mainland), and humans got to Australia somehow. What route did they take? According to this, they were only a boatride away:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0224_030224_mungoman.html

And that's from Africa.
 
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I know that was a compliment coming from you so thank you. Just two things though; do you need a token skeptic?


I think there's one there already, but he hasn't posted much.

And head into floor pounding? How descriptive, but a little dramatic don't you think?


No. And it goes both ways.

Does the pounding have anything to do with being consistently open and welcoming to proponents?

Is that still going on?


I don't know, you know I could always see if I can bring back in some skeptics who think anyone who gives any credence to bigfoot is a complete idiot or maybe some pitbull believer pseudo-skeptics. I think I'd then have my hands fuller than yours.

Why waste anyone's time with them? I had my fill the day I hit this board.

Let's stick to the issues, shall we?
 
I always thought ol' Snitch was a couple of marmite sarnies short of a picnic. Now I KNOW it.

WB, Charchy, Old Boy. But what's a marmite snarnie? I don't speak British.

Isn't this "hands across the water" thing wonderful? - Liverpool to Tokyo with a few stops in between. Just goes to show world peace is possible. Anyone here from Iraq?
 
So let me get this right. Ol' Snitch doesn't think sasquatch exists, but not only is ol' Snitch not content in banging on about this here on JREF but he's also going to all these other sasquatch related boards and lurking and reading everything he can on the subject, and even commenting here on what he has read there.

I wonder if I ever become so obsessed about something I don't think exists that maybe I should contact my doctor.......coz that just ain't natural ladies and gents. In fact, that is downright bloody weird behaviour.

I always thought ol' Snitch was a couple of marmite sarnies short of a picnic. Now I KNOW it.

Too funny.

Funny?

It's bust a gut, roll on the floor, thigh-slapping, hilarity. :rolleyes:

By your logic any skeptic that frequents a bigfoot forum must be missing a few picnic snacks. Logically then, any bigfoot proponent who frequents a skeptical forum must be similarly missing the mustard on their hot dog, so to speak.

So here we sit, picnic basket at our side, you, me, LAL, Hairy Man, kitakaze, Diogenes, Sweaty, Huntster (in spirit of course), and undoubtedly a few lurkers, hanging around by the edge of the blanket, like so many ants waiting for some cake crumbs.

Pass a sammich wouldja... :D

RayG
 
WB, Charchy, Old Boy. But what's a marmite snarnie? I don't speak British.

Isn't this "hands across the water" thing wonderful? - Liverpool to Tokyo with a few stops in between. Just goes to show world peace is possible. Anyone here from Iraq?
That certainly isn't sticking to the issues, now is it? That was rather odd, after all.

ETA: Isn't that nice, LAL? You got my 2000th. Wee! JREF rocks!
 
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LAL wrote:

Yowza....so it may not have been such an "impossible" feat....for Yowies to make it across on two feet.

According to the map from Kitakaze's link with sea levels 120 m below present

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_collections/zoology/zoo_sites/seamaps/mapindex.htm,

the distance would seem to be about 100.00km = 62.14 mi. from the southernmost island to the mainland, even less for the more northerly islands into New Zealand, and we know New Zealand and Australia were once joined.

Still quite a ways, but a lot less that T. Lancaster's 200 miles.
 
Yes actually, I spoke with LAL by phone that very day, she was helping me with research - and told me she wouldnt be able to get back to me until the following day as she was headed to Ashville.

Kitakazee.....

Same comments apply, if you want to discuss the issues on the Search for Bigfoot - please by all means, register as a member. Im sorry no one from my website or the BFF consulted with you prior to creating the posting guidelines - but, I guess its too late now :( You are always welcome to create a bigfoot board of your own and make up all kinds of rules that suit your taste.

You seem to be very upset about something - only you have the power to control, and discussing it here wont change things. You are more than welcome to create an account and post along with everyone else - I just think you are scared, so you come back here and complain.

The people who actively research this mystery have just as much right to have a place to discuss their work - as you have the right to be skeptical about that work. They also have the right to have their comments not be taken out of context. You can make all the comments you want about how the SFB should be handled - but I dont see your name anywhere in the list of people who are taking an active interest and adding to the dicussion - one way or the other.

Its always easy to be criticial when your on the outside looking in. :)

P.S. Im never angry with people like you, its just not worth the time.
 
That certainly isn't sticking to the issues, now is it? That was rather odd, after all.

I said "Shall we?", not "We shall".

ETA: Isn't that nice, LAL? You got my 2000th. Wee! JREF rocks!

I don't even know who got mine.

I really don't see your point on Yowies. If I don't put up a case for them getting to Australia my arguments for NA hominid primates don't hold up? Or what?
 
So let me get this right. Ol' Snitch doesn't think sasquatch exists, but not only is ol' Snitch not content in banging on about this here on JREF but he's also going to all these other sasquatch related boards and lurking and reading everything he can on the subject, and even commenting here on what he has read there.

I wonder if I ever become so obsessed about something I don't think exists that maybe I should contact my doctor.......coz that just ain't natural ladies and gents. In fact, that is downright bloody weird behaviour.

I always thought ol' Snitch was a couple of marmite sarnies short of a picnic. Now I KNOW it.

Too funny.
Well, have a look at that. How fantastically embarrassing. Would it be fair to say you didn't quite think that through? I don't think I can address that better than Ray already has. Oh well, seeing as how it's time for my twice monthly canine leg massage a la Rimmer, I really ought to try, now shouldn't I?

Oh yes, before I forget, I couldn't help but notice that during your last little hump stop you declined from answering Correa's calling you on an accusation in this post. Was giving Ol' Snitch a rub all you came for? How thoughtful.

Anywho, where were we? Oh yes. I won't bother echoing Ray's helping you to see the obvious foolishness of your remarks but I must say that it's rather surprising that you're just seeming to notice now that I don't limit my interest in the Bigfoot phenomenom to only participating in discussion on the matter here. I mean, certainly you've seen me make reference to your BFF (and SFB) handle Lyndon before. I'm also sure you didn't miss me linking to a BFF conversation on UK sightings in which you state that you find the pan-continental bigfoot concept to be incredible. But nevermind that, exactly just what are your preconceptions on people who are skeptical of bigfoot. Do you think we all started out that way? Do you think that through becoming as informed as possible on the subject that all must remain believers? Or through that becoming skeptical that one then simply and necessarily proceeds to abandon any interest in the subject? How staggeringly presumptuous and ignorant.

I don't expect you to be aware of this but I've had a deep interest in the subject since I was a child growing up on Vancouver Island. I started following the discussions at the BFF in early 2004, at the time being a staunch and studied proponent. It wasn't till early 2006 that I joined here (at which time I had become a fence-sitter) and not until this year that I've become fully skeptical. That just makes it all the more profound how much you are talking from your behind. It's funny you know, Lyndon (sorry, easier to type), when you know you aren't in the company of skeptics you can actually be capable of not being such a dick. It seems that once you sign in here you act like it's expected of you to be a dick. I don't say that because of only our interactions, you've don't it all over the place here. Anyway, if it's alright with you, I think I'd like to take a pass on the next snuggle session.
 
Yes actually, I spoke with LAL by phone that very day, she was helping me with research - and told me she wouldnt be able to get back to me until the following day as she was headed to Ashville. .

:D

I have one witness that I was in Whittier at 5 PM and twelve that I was in Books-a-Million in Asheville for several hours beginning at 7:00PM. I didn't get home until about 11:30.

I got worn out talking about heat shock proteins.

I can't tell the board administrators what to do anyway. If I could the membership list might be a little bit shorter. ;)

(Pssssssssst. Do you know anything about Yowies?)
 
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