Should we fear Bernie?

Baylor said:
I do tire of explaining to daft Europeans why these programs work in Western Europe and not the US, or Congo, or Namibia, or Papa New Guinea, or Uganda, Cameroon.
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We know. The problem is that black people exist.

I take this argument as seriously as it deserves.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Imagine spending more on healthcare than the military! The horror!
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The only way out is through. New healthcare plan:

All money to the military. We will reach universal coverage when every citizen of the country is employed by Raytheon or some other war profiteer and gets covered by the company policy.
 
acbytesla said:
Really? They can have medical care for everybody in the UK, Canada, Japan, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, France, etc. etc. etc, but not in the richest country on the planet? We need to stop protecting the insurance companies, Big Pharma, big medicine and start protecting the average American.

I don't agree with Sanders on free tuition or his stance on Nuclear power, but I absolutely agree in Medicare for all.
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Also they spend a lot less than the USA. I hope the PBS documentaries Sick Around America and Sick Around the World were shown in lots of schools when they came out. If I was a teacher in the US, I'd be sure to show them to all my classes, especially the one about other countries' health care systems.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
We know. The problem is that black people exist.

I take this argument as seriously as it deserves.
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Liberia has nearly the exact same constitution and system of government as the US yet has completely different outcomes.

I'd love a daft European "why dont usa use my brilliant gouvernmente programmes" to explain why.
 
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Safe-Keeper said:
Also they spend a lot less than the USA. I hope the PBS documentaries Sick Around America and Sick Around the World were shown in lots of schools when they came out. If I was a teacher in the US, I'd be sure to show them to all my classes, especially the one about other countries' health care systems.
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Clearly, you know nothing about US schools.
 
Baylor said:
Liberia has nearly the exact same constitution and system of government as the US yet has completely different outcomes.

I'd love a daft European "why dont usa use my brilliant gouvernmente programmes" to explain why.
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It's those darn black people that are the problem.
 
For contrast, I've just come across this scientific paper which has come to the conclusion that the US adopting a single-payer healthcare model would save the country $450b a year: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673619330193

I think it makes sense that it would ultimately save money, because without an insurance model you wouldn't have to factor in paying the insurance. It's cutting out an entire for-profit industry.

Probably wouldn't work in the US, though, because black people exist.
 
Baylor said:
Enforcement and Removal. Only 25,000,000 problems to go.
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Which doesn't need its own agency to do. Kinda feel we are going in circles here because your only argument is "gotta kick out the brown people."

I'm not sure why you think these stupid questions have any relevancy to anything whatsoever. You can say this about anything.

"Branson, Missouri Police Department deals with homicide cases. FBI also deals with homicide cases. So why do you need the FBI?"
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FBI investigate homicide cases that have a Federal component, such as when a killer is operating over State Lines and so one local Authority can't investigate the case as a whole. They don't swan on into every murder case in the country.

ICE and the DEA are both tasked with the same job as far as drugs coming into the country. Why spend money doubling up on tasks?

I am extremely aware you are in absolutely no position to determine which department oversees which US Federal Agency. If I were a pseudo intellectual I'd say "Dunning Kruger Effect!" But I'm not so I won't. My guess it has more to do with the culture of this forum, and the skeptic community at large. It's common place here to let bizarre and off-the wall comments to go ignored, as long as the person is trying to appear "rational" and "knowledgeable" and that his "ideas" will solve complex problems that he doesn't understand.
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I see you are resorting to your general move. When you don't have facts, use
Ad Hominem attacks instead.

ETA: There is no such federal law enforcement agency with the initialism "BCP" I wouldn't even mention it if you hadn't done it repeatedly, and are trying to appear knowledgeable by Wikipedia skimming. I could make a snark joke about it for some internet points but I'll simply put that it makes it even more obvious that you don't have what it takes to even discuss this topic.
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Yeah so my slight Dyslexia is playing up and I mistyped CBP as BCP, clap clap you for, have an internet for failure to make any substantial points.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
For contrast, I've just come across this scientific paper which has come to the conclusion that the US adopting a single-payer healthcare model would save the country $450b a year: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673619330193

I think it makes sense that it would ultimately save money, because without an insurance model you wouldn't have to factor in paying the insurance. It's cutting out an entire for-profit industry.

Probably wouldn't work in the US, though, because black people exist.
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You have to understand though, it's a fundamental principle that the right in the US have that it's their money and they would rather pay a capitalist business huge amounts of money to rip them off and provide insubstantial coverage with huge upfront costs in co-pays and prescriptions, where if their local doctor and hospital is covered year to year is up to the whims of strangers whose only real interest in how much profit they can make, and where if you have to go to an out of network provider or get something that isn't covered, you'll have enough medical bills to bankrupt you, rather than having a small tax increase and getting full medical coverage anywhere in the US, regardless of State, hospital, or Doctor, at no extra charge. Oh, especially when it means that brown coloured people get it too, because we know how white Americans react when they see a bunch of brown people who are economically well off and not reliant on white people.
 
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PhantomWolf said:
Which doesn't need its own agency to do. Kinda feel we are going in circles here because your only argument is "gotta kick out the brown people."
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You just counted those "brown people" in your percentage in the "white population" of the US. There's really no point in having a discussion with you it's boring. Just link to the HuffingtonPost article you got this stupid argument from, that ICE is somehow redundant, cause you're not explaining the reasoning in any meaningful way.
 
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Baylor said:
You just counted those "brown people" in your percentage in the "white population" of the US. If you were aware how bad you look, you'd probably put the keyboard down. There's really no point in having a discussion with you it's boring. Just link to the HuffingtonPost article you got this stupid argument from, that ICE is somehow redundant, cause you're not explaining the reasoning in any meaningful way.
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And more Ad Hominem attacks, I guess that is all that is left for you when beating the table doesn't work, right?
 
PhantomWolf said:
And more Ad Hominem attacks, I guess that is all that is left for you when beating the table doesn't work, right?
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Are Centrals Americans white?

If no, why did you include them in your "white population" percentage?
If yes, why are you calling them brown?
 
PhantomWolf said:
ICE and the DEA are both tasked with the same job as far as drugs coming into the country. Why spend money doubling up on tasks?
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FBI also investigates drug coming into the country. Why aren't you saying to get rid of the FBI?
 
PhantomWolf said:
ICE and the DEA are both tasked with the same job as far as drugs coming into the country. Why spend money doubling up on tasks?
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FBI and CIA often share concurrent tasks. Why aren't you saying to get rid of the FBI? Or CIA? Why don't you want to link to the article where you got these stupid arguments?
 
dann said:
You should all visit Copenhagen! We have public executions of capitalists in my local park every Saturday afternoon, but only from May 1 to Sep. 30. It's too dark and cold to venture outside the rest of the year.
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Public executions are so 1940's.

In my mother country, we send all of our capitalists up to Tuktayuktuk on the 18th day of December each year, force them to walk the plank onto an ice floe, and then shove them out to the Arctic Ocean with nothing but a whale bone knife and a small spool of sinew.

We're at least humanitarian enough to give our capitalist (ick spit spit) criminals a fighting chance for survival.

My fellow comrade.... surely you can come up with a kinder, gentler way of dealing with these traitors?

Praise be to our beloved Joseph!
 
Baylor said:
FBI also investigates drug coming into the country. Why aren't you saying to get rid of the FBI?
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[URL=https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/what-is-the-fbi-doing-about-drug-trafficking]FBI[/URL] said:
What is the FBI doing about drug trafficking?
The FBI has determined that the most effective means of combating this crime is to use the enterprise theory of investigation, which focuses investigations and prosecutions on entire criminal enterprises rather than on individuals. Through this process, all aspects of the criminal operation can be identified. The theory supports not only the prosecution of the criminal enterprise, but also the seizure of the enterprise’s assets and is intended to disrupt or dismantle entire criminal organizations. In our cases, we typically work closely with the Drug Enforcement Administration and through Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Forces around the country.
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Oh dear... nice try, but still not there are we....
 
Baylor said:
FBI and CIA often share concurrent tasks. Why aren't you saying to get rid of the FBI? Or CIA? Why don't you want to link to the article where you got these stupid arguments?
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You are aware that the FBI is a Law Enforcement Agency while the CIA is an Intelligence gathering agency, right?
 
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