Should we fear Bernie?

19 reasons not to vote for Bernie "Bread Lines Are Good" Sanders:

1. $34 Trillion Socialized Health Insurance Overhaul
Sanders would ban private insurance and implement single-payer government health care. Under his Medicare for All proposal, “federal spending on health care would still increase by 10 percent of G.D.P., or more than triple what the government spends on the military,” according to The New York Times.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/12/lets-not-forget-bernie-sanders-has-a-lot-of-fringe-crazy-plans/
 
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OP what was going through your mind as GOP voters shamelessly elected this authoritarian-lite pathological liar we have in office right now?
 
If Bernie doesn't win the nomination, then I'm concerned and upset because it shows the DNC rigged the primary. If he does prevail, then I'm even more concerned because he'll ruin our great economy and take us down the road of socialism.
 
Cain said:
If Bernie doesn't win the nomination, then I'm concerned and upset because it shows the DNC rigged the primary. If he does prevail, then I'm even more concerned because he'll ruin our great economy and take us down the road of socialism.
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So, either way you think his chances of ever being more than a candidate for President are slim to none.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
That's right. There's no room between our current right-wing austerity hellworld and authoritarian communism.

Unionized minorities are currently building guillotines in state owned factories just for Bernie.
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You should all visit Copenhagen! We have public executions of capitalists in my local park every Saturday afternoon, but only from May 1 to Sep. 30. It's too dark and cold to venture outside the rest of the year.
 
Cain said:
If Bernie doesn't win the nomination, then I'm concerned and upset because it shows the DNC rigged the primary. If he does prevail, then I'm even more concerned because he'll ruin our great economy and take us down the road of socialism.
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:dl:
 
Hercules56 said:
Obama didn't threaten to increase the yearly budget by 3 trillion dollars or release hundreds of thousands of prisoners from Federal jails.
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During his campaign back in 2008, the black man wasn't threaten Shariah law or the mass execution of Christians, yet a considerable amount of people were terrified of him due to... I never really understood why, to be honest. Surely couldn't be his name or skin colour :rolleyes: .

During his campaign in 2020, the left-leaning man never threatened to set up gulags, shoot political opponents, or round up all the workers in labour camps, yet you've written an OP that predicts he may turn the US into the next Soviet Union or something.

See a pattern?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The EU is the second largest economy in the world. The US is third. If the EU isn't thriving, then I pity the poor US. I'm sure the EU will send you some aid if you need it.
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The international community will be the last bullwark against the fascist Trump regime and it's colusin the BoJo government of Britain.
 
PhantomWolf said:
You were the one that claimed that they were dealing with plenty of problems,
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Enforcement and Removal. Only 25,000,000 problems to go.

PhantomWolf said:
so it should be simple for you to specify what those problem are and why they can't be dealt with by other agencies.

Here let me help you.

They deal with drugs being brought in and also People Trafficking. There's two problems.

However both the BCP and DEA also deal with Drugs coming into the country, so why do you need ICE to deal with it too? The FBI and BCP also deal with people trafficking, so again, why do you need ICE to do so.

So really, what problems is it solving that other agencies aren't already doing, or can't be handed off to one of the other Immigration Agencies? This should be easy for you, but instead you are floundering, hard.
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I'm not sure why you think these stupid questions have any relevancy to anything whatsoever. You can say this about anything.

"Branson, Missouri Police Department deals with homicide cases. FBI also deals with homicide cases. So why do you need the FBI?"

I am extremely aware you are in absolutely no position to determine which department oversees which US Federal Agency. If I were a pseudo intellectual I'd say "Dunning Kruger Effect!" But I'm not so I won't. My guess it has more to do with the culture of this forum, and the skeptic community at large. It's common place here to let bizarre and off-the wall comments to go ignored, as long as the person is trying to appear "rational" and "knowledgeable" and that his "ideas" will solve complex problems that he doesn't understand.

ETA: There is no such federal law enforcement agency with the initialism "BCP" I wouldn't even mention it if you hadn't done it repeatedly, and are trying to appear knowledgeable by Wikipedia skimming. I could make a snark joke about it for some internet points but I'll simply put that it makes it even more obvious that you don't have what it takes to even discuss this topic.
 
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BrooklynBaby said:
19 reasons not to vote for Bernie "Bread Lines Are Good" Sanders:

1. $34 Trillion Socialized Health Insurance Overhaul
Sanders would ban private insurance and implement single-payer government health care. Under his Medicare for All proposal, “federal spending on health care would still increase by 10 percent of G.D.P., or more than triple what the government spends on the military,” according to The New York Times.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/12/lets-not-forget-bernie-sanders-has-a-lot-of-fringe-crazy-plans/
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Even though facts are clearly unimportant in this thread: https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialist-not-communist-heres-difference-1485478



Speaking as someone who lived in Europe until a week or two ago (curse you, Cameron!), I agree. Sanders' positions are easy to understand, are implemented throughout Europe and the UK, and have not led to gulags or purges.

I must confess, though, that I never tire of seeing Americans freak out about this stuff.
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I do tire of explaining to daft Europeans why these programs work in Western Europe and not the US, or Congo, or Namibia, or Papa New Guinea, or Uganda, Cameroon.
 
Hercules56 said:
Bernie's been in government for a few decades now. He seems like a nice guy who's never been able to do much with his ideas.

But happens if he wins? What happens if all of his ideas suddenly are backed by major power?

Millenials don't remember the evils of Socialism but many Gen Xers and Boomers do. We remember the Gulags, the Berlin Wall, the Khmer Rouge, the barbed wire, the purges, the brutally put down revolutions.

Bernie's supporters say "oh no, that wouldn't happen here, this time it will be peaceful, freedom-loving Socialism".

Well I've read the agenda of the DSA, which Bernie is a member of. They want to destroy capitalism, end national borders. They want to put the means of production and industry and wealth into the hands of "The People", which means mass-nationalization of industry, corporations, banks, the engines of commerce.

Every national manifestation of Socialism that the world has ever seen, has been an economic disaster, a human rights disaster, or both. Do we really want to give it another shot????
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Hercules56 said:
Let us know when Bernie abandons democratic socialism and becomes a supporter of Social Democracy.

Cuz until he does, I trust that he's a Socialist.

His supporters DEFINITELY are.
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Ok boomer. You clearly know too much and will be among the first we send to the gulags
 
Really? They can have medical care for everybody in the UK, Canada, Japan, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, France, etc. etc. etc, but not in the richest country on the planet? We need to stop protecting the insurance companies, Big Pharma, big medicine and start protecting the average American.

I don't agree with Sanders on free tuition or his stance on Nuclear power, but I absolutely agree in Medicare for all.
 
Baylor said:
I do tire of explaining to daft Europeans why these programs work in Western Europe and not the US, or Congo, or Namibia, or Papa New Guinea, or Uganda, Cameroon.
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Ooh! Ooh! I know this one! An extensive culture of corruption enabled by cowardly racist jackholes who would rather be led by the nose in blaming any convenient out-group for their own pathetic failures instead of manning the hell up and actively taking steps to make life better for everyone involved!

That's the reason, right?
 
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