The white ones are.
Should we fear Bernie?
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The white ones are.
This doesn't answer the question.
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This is probably the biggest impediment to getting UHC passed. You can't just tell people in those industries that "we're going to put a lot of people out of business." I'm not a policy wonk but the reason I prefer Warren to Sanders is that she's probably done the math on how to *transition* to M4A (Who Want It?) if an entire industry is going to be phased out. It's not enough IMO to talk or even just think along the lines of creative destruction and let the chips fall where they may. You need an off ramp and an on ramp. But this election is not supposed to be about policy, I've been told. I think that's wrong, somehow.
I mean, I can see wanting to just wipe the slate clean and deciding what the heck, let's put up Bernie. But in a way that's just as faith-based as what evangelical groups might push. There needs to be a plan for an emerging industry of professional health-care advocates to make sure sick people are getting reasonable care. I guess I'm talking about social workers, which doesn't sound to sexy. But I think we'll have to find some hybridized kludge to make the transition, and IMO it looks a lot like Obamacare.
This also does not answer the question.
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One would assume the same with Central Americans too then, though clearly to certain people, because they are Hispanic, that means that even if they were, they aren't.
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It does, just not the way you want.
Again, it does, just not in the way you want.
However, short and to not further derail. US LE should be coalesced under fewer organisations across the board, not just ICE. But this is well off topic here. I'd be happy to discuss in in a US Law Enforcement thread if you want.
You're so tangled in a mess it's not surprise you can't even defend your assertions and resort to Red Herrings. So far you've claimed: Hispanics are white and only white but also brown. ICE is redundant because they work with other federal agencies, but other agencies that work together are not redundant, for some reason.
No it doesn't.
No it doesn't
Even shorter, no they shouldn't.
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Actually, it wouldn’t work in the US because of two reasons: one is physicians entering the field do so around a hundred thousand dollars in debt due to med school. The second reason is lawyers. In the US, one can sue and win for damn near anything, so physicians pay enormous fees in malpractice insurance each year. UHC would dramatically reduce the amounts physicians earn. Not many people would be keen to spend many years and such large amounts of money to become physicians if their yearly salary was going to be 40k or 50k.
I’ve long said the precursor to UHC is giving away the education in exchange for a certain number of years working as a government physician. Moreover, tort reform must be achieved prior to any UHC being instituted. Since 95% of US politicians are lawyers, well, you see the likelihood of this happening any time soon.
There are reasons it wouldn’t work in the US, but black people have nothing to do with it.
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None of are actually my claims and I bet you can't actually quote my saying any of them either. Nice straw-manning though. Do you have anything other than fallacies?
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I agree that there are institutional problems in the US that would also need to be fixed before it became fully viable. I don't think anybody believes it could be implemented without thought or hitch tomorrow.
The point is that the argument that it would be more expensive isn't necessarily sound.
I've been following Baylor's posts for a while. I've gathered that pretty much every problem in the world can be attributed to the fact that black people exist.
In particular racism! If it weren't for the black and brown people, racists would have no reason to be racists!
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Also a twist on the modern identity politics we all love so much, this time in the form of "you're not American/you're European, so I won't listen to you"
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This is either parody or you are truly clueless about what socialism is. I suggest you look up Clement Attlee and the Labour Government of 1945, who frankly was far more to the left than Bernie ever will be.
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The "Beatles" sing Bernie's campaign song. I would say it's right on point.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/weekend-special-all-bobs-money/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/weekend-special-all-bobs-money/
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Just for the **** of it:
True dat. I've never heard of any of the things you listed. Except maybe barb wire, that used to rip up my clothes when I climbed that fence after crossing the crop on my shortcut home from school.
Yes, people sent to camps is usually a bad thing. Not unique to socialism, though, nor a part of the definition of socialism. Who in the US should even be put in gulags? Except from Trump, of course?
...which was built to stem brain drain from East Berlin, not because the East Germans just up and decided that because they were socialists, they had to build a wall. As anyone who lives under the Trump regime should know, walls aren't unique to socialsm, nor is it a defining characteristic of socialism. Next.
What about them? Do you think they just arbitrarily decided they needed to start a reign of terror because they identified as socialists (they were communists, but why let facts get in the way of some good fear-mongering), or because such catastrophies are a tenet of socialism?
Some sort of gif is appropriate here, not sure which one, though.
You saved the best for last, I see. Yes, there were purges in the Soviet Union and in Red China. They were dreadful. For some reason you don't see them wherever you see socialism, welfare states, or other kinds of mixed economies, though.
See above.
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I like how this is supposed to be a devastating dis track, and yet all it actually says is "people will be better off under Bernie Sanders", and the audience insert is saying "but they don't deserve to be, unlike me!"
Should cause anybody who thinks it's at all funny to go: Hang on...
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It is a constant source of amusement to me when US conservatives explain American “exceptionalism” by explaining how similar the US is to third world countries.
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Fareed Zakaria on Bernie Sander's magical thinking on climate:
Fareed is right to call out Sanders on this. We can look at other countries and see who has and who hasn't been successful at reducing carbon emissions. Germany has invested a huge amount in renewables but they've basically hit a brick wall. in 2016, they installed 4% more name plate capcity solar energy but solar contributed 3% less energy than the prior year. They installed 11% more wind power but received 2% less electricity from wind. What would happen if they doubled their name plate capcity of renewable energy? very little at this point. The US isn't anywhere close to this brick wall yet but we will be eventually if we go down the same road. Fareed makes the point that our swith from coal/oil to natural gas is the biggest factor in our reduction of CO2 emissions. Solar energy accounted for 3% of our reduction of CO2 emissions. Sanders plan is magical thinking.
Fareed is right to call out Sanders on this. We can look at other countries and see who has and who hasn't been successful at reducing carbon emissions. Germany has invested a huge amount in renewables but they've basically hit a brick wall. in 2016, they installed 4% more name plate capcity solar energy but solar contributed 3% less energy than the prior year. They installed 11% more wind power but received 2% less electricity from wind. What would happen if they doubled their name plate capcity of renewable energy? very little at this point. The US isn't anywhere close to this brick wall yet but we will be eventually if we go down the same road. Fareed makes the point that our swith from coal/oil to natural gas is the biggest factor in our reduction of CO2 emissions. Solar energy accounted for 3% of our reduction of CO2 emissions. Sanders plan is magical thinking.
Those are your claims so own up to them. You're so caught up in trying to win an argument on the internet you don't even know what it is you're arguing. Your ignorance of US politics is apparent. You're not involved in the US federal apparatus, nor do you have a relationship with anyone who is. You are not American or live in the US. You skim wikipedia and other web pages and to appear "knowledgable." Then you expect us to take your "ideas" seriously about restructuring US federal agencies. Take it somewhere else.