Should we fear Bernie?

The coming election isn't about the future of the Democratic party. It's about the future of the US, specifically, if the US is to remain a liberal democracy or move towards an oligarchy.
 
uke2se said:
The coming election isn't about the future of the Democratic party. It's about the future of the US, specifically, if the US is to remain a liberal democracy or move towards an oligarchy.
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It's a Republic, not a Liberal anything. That's the delusions of folks living in NYC and Southern California. Or so I've been told, but seriously, it's a Constitutional Republic at this point.
 
Belz... said:
It would be hard to imagine a more succint sentence that exposes your ignorance of liberal democracy.
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I haven't really figured out what the conservative bugaboo is about this whole "republic vs democracy" thing is, but I see it pretty often. Someone will come in with a line like rocky's about how we're a republic, not a democracy like it is some profound statement.

Not really what the point of these proclamations is. I think it goes back to insecurity about Trump losing the popular vote and the broader argument that people are having about the continued legitimacy of the electoral college system, but that's just speculation. More likely it's just some barb meant to smear the target as being uninformed about our government.

Of course, any reasonable person understands that there is no dichotomy between republic and democracy, and that there is significant overlap in the two systems. Even going back to the Founders, our system was described interchangeably as a republic and as a representative democracy.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I haven't really figured out what the conservative bugaboo is about this whole "republic vs democracy" thing is, but I see it pretty often. Someone will come in with a line like rocky's about how we're a republic, not a democracy like it is some profound statement.

Not really what the point of these proclamations is. I think it goes back to insecurity about Trump losing the popular vote and the broader argument that people are having about the continued legitimacy of the electoral college system, but that's just speculation. More likely it's just some barb meant to smear the target as being uninformed about our government.

Of course, any reasonable person understands that there is no dichotomy between republic and democracy, and that there is significant overlap in the two systems. Even going back to the Founders, our system was described interchangeably as a republic and as a representative democracy.
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As opposed to a Liberal One. There's no such thing, yet Lefties, CP in particular seem to like to make their points under the apparent assumption they speak for everyone.

they don't.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Of course, any reasonable person understands that there is no dichotomy between republic and democracy, and that there is significant overlap in the two systems. Even going back to the Founders, our system was described interchangeably as a republic and as a representative democracy.
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That's because it's what the word 'Republic' means, unless rocky thinks that it just means "not a monarchy", which would make no sense in this context.

"Oh, we're not a democracy. We're just a not-monarchy."
 
Belz... said:
What in the blue **** are you babbling about? Modern democracies were founded on liberal principles.

You really should start using words the way they're supposed to be used, rather than how Fox News spins them.
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Or the just the classical ones, like Representative Democracy which means elected Representatives, not the Liberal Politically Correct Thought Police Nanny State Supporters.
 
Belz... said:
I'm sorry, it seems like you've misspelled "communism".
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Or Darwinian Capitalism also known as Colonialism that Communism was a reaction to.
Even as early as anchent Rome you had Social Reformers like that Crucified Guy, named Jesus.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Or Darwinian Capitalism also known as Colonialism that Communism was a reaction to.
Even as early as anchent Rome you had Social Reformers like that Crucified Guy, named Jesus.
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Well, that's how the story goes anyway. Probably face a similar fate today if he appeared in the US. Damned commie!
 
rockysmith76 said:
Or the just the classical ones, like Representative Democracy which means elected Representatives, not the Liberal Politically Correct Thought Police Nanny State Supporters.
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That has nothing to do with what you were talking about. You're equivocating several definitions of "liberal" because you don't want to admit that you made a mistake.
 
I can tolerate everyone's misuse of terminology and misunderstanding of history but please do let's get a grip on capitalization! Lowercase for all terms unless it's a proper name! A republic, democracy, liberal, conservative, upholstery. The Republican Party, a Democrat governor, Romania.
 
Belz... said:
That has nothing to do with what you were talking about. You're equivocating several definitions of "liberal" because you don't want to admit that you made a mistake.
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No, it doesn't. You are trying to redefine the terms of your argument, rambling discourse that it was.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I can tolerate everyone's misuse of terminology and misunderstanding of history but please do let's get a grip on capitalization! Lowercase for all terms unless it's a proper name! A republic, democracy, liberal, conservative, upholstery. The Republican Party, a Democrat governor, Romania.
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Grammar Nazi...
 
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