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Ed Should Australia change its flag?

Should Australia change its flag?

  • I'm an Aussie and I say Yes!

    Votes: 13 24.5%

  • I'm an Aussie and I say No!

    Votes: 5 9.4%

  • I'm an Aussie and I say mind your own *********** business!

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • I'm not an Aussie but I say Yes!

    Votes: 8 15.1%

  • I'm not an Aussie but I say No!

    Votes: 6 11.3%

  • On Planet X flags are for sandcastles

    Votes: 19 35.8%
  • Total voters
    53
I voted yes, cause then people can stop complaining that they can't tell ours and theirs apart.
 
arthwollipot said:
That sounds delicious, but I think the word you're looking for is "unicameral". :D

I, like you, am old enough to remember the last time we changed the national anthem - from "God Save The Queen". I still think of it as the "new" national anthem. When I learned it, it began "Australia's sons let us rejoice..."
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Second Verse!

When gallant Cook from Albion sailed,
To trace wide oceans o'er,True British courage bore him on,
il he landed on our shore.
Then here he raised Old England's flag,
The standard of the brave;
"With all her faults we love her still"
"Britannia rules the wave."
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.
 
lionking said:
The whole Eureka event was a fiasco. A few hundred miners refusing to pay a legal tax. Leading to a siege and a handful of deaths. It wasn't the birth of democracy in Australia, it was the birth of self-interested insurrection.

The Eureka flag will never be Australia's.
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But what about the historical anti Chinkee association? Isn't that worth something?
 
Noztradamus said:
Second Verse!

When gallant Cook from Albion sailed,
To trace wide oceans o'er,True British courage bore him on,
il he landed on our shore.
Then here he raised Old England's flag,
The standard of the brave;
"With all her faults we love her still"
"Britannia rules the wave."
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.
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Damien Evans said:
:eye-poppi:boggled:
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According to Wikipedia, those were the original 1879 lyrics of the second verse.

The current version, officially adopted in 1984, are as follows:

Verse 1
Australians all let us rejoice,
For we are young and free;
We've golden soil and wealth for toil;
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In history's page, let every stage
Advance Australia Fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia Fair.

Verse 2
Beneath our radiant Southern Cross
We'll toil with hearts and hands;
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands;
For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To Advance Australia Fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia Fair.
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*snore* Huh? What? Sorry, I was asleep.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
Because there's an unwritten rule that says a country's 'national colors' must be on their flag, right?
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I do not understand why you are responding to my post in this manner. Does my surprise at some countries not having their national colors on their flags offend you? Do you think my reasoning is so flawed that a mocking tone is necessary?


My surprise is based on the question: what is the point of a national flag if not to display the national colors. Why would a country want to exclude its national colors from its national flag? what is gained by avoiding the use of one's own national colors?

In this thread, I learned why Australia's national colors do not appear on its flag.

But what about the national bird, or the national sport, or the national emblem, or... Shouldn't they all be on the flag?
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I think those things are very, very different from national colors. Do you see them as similar?
 
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Every flag should be the national bird fighting the national mammal, while the national reptile looks on and sips the national drink, on a background of the national colors. Also every national flag should have the name of the nation spelled out on it, for convenience.
 
Lothian said:
I think you should use this one which everyone will immediately recognise as....

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/44756a7725f5ed08.jpg[/qimg]

our one but upside down to represent Australia.
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You should choose your clip art more carefully. The image you posted is neither the correct depiction of the U.K. flag nor an upside down depiction of the U.K. flag. The diagonal red strip should touch the hoist at the top of the flag.


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TragicMonkey said:
Every flag should be the national bird fighting the national mammal, while the national reptile looks on and sips the national drink, on a background of the national colors. Also every national flag should have the name of the nation spelled out on it, for convenience.
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And yet, even then the flags you describe would not as bad as the city flag of Pocatello, Idaho, U.S.
That flag has a trademark symbol on it.
 
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arthwollipot said:
According to Wikipedia, those were the original 1879 lyrics of the second verse.

The current version, officially adopted in 1984, are as follows:



*snore* Huh? What? Sorry, I was asleep.
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Oh, I know the current version, I had to learn that in primary school.
 
arthwollipot said:
According to Wikipedia, those were the original 1879 lyrics of the second verse.

The current version, officially adopted in 1984, are as follows:



*snore* Huh? What? Sorry, I was asleep.
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So we are going to pretend the Australian voters weren't conned into agreeing to a sycophantic paen to old England.

If they did. I have suspicions of that vote - noone I have ever met admits to have voted AFA over Waltzing Matilda [/ Pauline Kael]
 
Thinking about it, I'm wondering why most designs are sticking with a blue background and some variation of the southern cross.

After all, we're hardly the only country with lots of blue ocean around us, and the southern cross is visible from just about every country in the southern hemisphere, so these aren't specific to us in any way.

So let's pretend we have no idea what the old flag looks like and design a new one from scratch.

Our national colours are green and gold.
Our country has a very distinctive shape.

Why not just put the two of those together?

Something like this:
 

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What could be more Australian than a mummy emerging from a pyramid, its arms extended, holding the ancient crook and flail, symbols of the pharaoh's power? Nothing, that's what. Therefore, as famous Australian Amenophis IV once remarked unto the priests of Thoth, "make it so"!
 
Brian-M said:
Thinking about it, I'm wondering why most designs are sticking with a blue background and some variation of the southern cross.

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It'll be appropriate when we adopt John Williamson's "True Blue" as the new National Anthem
 
Brian-M said:
Thinking about it, I'm wondering why most designs are sticking with a blue background and some variation of the southern cross.

After all, we're hardly the only country with lots of blue ocean around us, and the southern cross is visible from just about every country in the southern hemisphere, so these aren't specific to us in any way.

So let's pretend we have no idea what the old flag looks like and design a new one from scratch.

Our national colours are green and gold.
Our country has a very distinctive shape.

Why not just put the two of those together?

Something like this:
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In general, the more complex the shape the greater the cost of making the flag. While searching the Internet, I did come across a very stylized outline of the country with a slightly darker green. Unfortunately, I cannot get to the page itself and I see it only in a Google image preview.


ETA: found it
http://www.wpmap.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/History-montage.jpg

Now that I look again, I don't like this one. Never mind.
 
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