September Stundie Nominations

You know how most truthers will claim that the sound of the buildings collapsing covered up the sound of the explosives going off? atavisms has taken this to a new and even more insane level by claiming that the sound of the collapses were the sound of the explosives going off.

I've witnessed a rockslide. Sounded much like the extended roar of the towers coming down. I wonder where the explosives were planted?
 
We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.

"Sound is caused by convection currents" ???
Ah. This explains why the hot air rising off my front yard is making so much noise. Damn noisy hot air.
 
We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.



A classic example of "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Air currents, and differential temperature layers, can affect how sound propagates, but the notion that this can account for the complete lack of any noise from 130dB explosions is just daft.....
 
Ah, these troofers on the internet always claiming to be experts in the relevant fields... but, conveniently enough, it doesn't really matter.

memefilter said:
I have massive experience with shills and trolls, including ones identified to be on DoD, FBI, NSA, and Secret Service payroll. I have seen many documents on agency letterhead describing how to inject disinfo. I said your post "reads like" textbook shilling. It doesn't matter why, it doesn't matter what your motive is, nor whether you are being paid. All that matters is you commit gross logical fallacies in defense of treasonous mass murderers. Nothing else matters in relation to your post herein, except that it gets called out for the :rule10 it is.

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/9p2jr/although_80000_new_yorkers_have_voice_their/c0ds9j8
 
Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

That is :talk034: hilarious. I have 8 strategic deterrence patrols under my belt and I can guarantee that that not only couldn't that happen for many reasons I'm not going to discuss for obvious reasons, but also because the odds were that if we launched even one bird they would track it back to the datum point where we launched from and send one or more back at us. It's one of the main reasons that the maximum time allowed for a full salvo of 16 weapons was 15 minutes or less.
 
Here it is folks! Classic Stundie!


I recently discovered something which I completely forgot about and I'm not sure if any of you are aware of this back in 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Eugene_Corder

Frank Eugene Corder


Frank Eugene Corder (May 26, 1956 – September 12, 1994) crashed a stolen Cessna 150 onto the South Lawn of the White House early on September 12, 1994, apparently trying to hit the building; he was killed, and was the sole casualty....

....He stole the Cessna on the night of September 11 and departed from Aldino Airport in Maryland severely intoxicated, which is presumed to have led to his later miscalculation. The plane was noticed by radar technicians at National Airport several minutes before he tried to steer it into the wall of the White House. At 1:49 a.m., he hit the South Lawn and died on impact.

The crash caused a re-evaluation in security procedures around the White House, as the pilot had entered restricted airspace. Though the White House is rumored to be equipped with surface-to-air missiles, none were fired. The Secret Service has neither confirmed nor dispelled the rumor.

Amazing, back in 93 a guy tries to hit the white house with a single engine cessna and fails, yet Atta will manage to fly unheeded into restricted airspace and uses his awesome piloting skills with the twin jet engined plane and hit the wall of the pentagon without leaving so much as a scratch on the grass. :blink:

And when debunkers use the argument that the military had no capability of dealing with domestic terrorists threats targeting America, this suggest otherwise.


I'll point out one logical flaw; everyone else post the others! One per person!


1) Because one (drunk) pilot couldn't hit a building, the other (sober) pilot couldn't hit another (larger) building.
 
1) Because one (drunk) pilot couldn't hit a building, the other (sober) pilot couldn't hit another (larger) building.


Weee... This isn't a logical fallacy, but rather a factual inaccuracy:

2) Mohammad Atta piloted Flight 11 (not Flight 77) into the South Tower (not the Pentagon) in New York City (not Washington, D.C.), which wasn't restricted airspace.
 
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We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.
"Sound is carried by convection currents" has my vote. No-one can have done dumber than that this month. This ranks alongside the thing about gravity being caused by air pressure as one of the all-time physics fails.
 
I love when they try to use their brains: :rolleyes:

thequake said:
Uhh, someone has given you very bad information.

Use your brain for a minute. If the towers were bolted together instead of welded, don't you think the NIST would have seized upon this very serious design flaw in their report and presented as the reason why the towers collapsed?? But they haven't, because it isn't true.

If the towers were bolted instead of welded together, they wouldn't be able to stand for one day, much less for 30+ years! No bolt in the world is strong enough to hold up that kind of weight, millions of tons of steel and concrete, which is why steel buildings are always welded not bolted together!

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1992629/1/

But what about millions of bolts?
 
Weee... This isn't a logical fallacy, but rather a factual inaccuracy:

2) Mohammad Atta piloted Flight 11 (not Flight 77) into the South Tower (not the Pentagon) in New York City (not Washington, D.C.), which wasn't restricted airspace.


I need to correct myself. Flight 11 impacted the North Tower, not the South Tower.
 
Ace Baker, on the 9/11 Truth Movement Facebook forum:

They didn't find a "767" engine. They found part of an engine fan, which I think was shot out of a cannon on the 89th floor. Because the cannon was so near the perimeter, it had to be melted down prior to demolition, lest it be found. Unfortunately, the molten iron came pouring out of the window on television. That's why they had to blow WTC2 so early.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11533#topic_top
 
For the record, if I'd have done it, I'd have used a catapult. A nice, flammable catapult.

:tinfoil
 

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