Sean Penn the Dictator Coddling Traitor

shecky said:
I can top that one.

Widely admired, (even by me), Milt Friedman was pretty chummy with Augusto Pinochet. Proving that anyone can have a good relationship with a murderous beast.
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However, as far as murderous beasts go, Pinochet was small-time. Not a nice guy, but miles and miles behind the worst -- and, remarkably, the only dictator I can think of who gave up power because of a referendum that went against him.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Yes, it makes sense.

First seize supreme power, then grow facial hair.

* makes note *
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I refuse to shave off my mustache.

Ergo, I have no hope of seizing supreme power, yet another reason my career as a Sith is on the rocks.

Maybe I ought to go into selling midochlorian futures to vampires . . .

DR
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Why don't you ask our own Patricio Elicier about Pinochet?
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timhau said:
However, as far as murderous beasts go, Pinochet was small-time. Not a nice guy, but miles and miles behind the worst -- and, remarkably, the only dictator I can think of who gave up power because of a referendum that went against him.
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I suppose I'd feel better if Friedman was chummy with OJ Simpson, and even smaller time murderous beast. But Pinochet at least grew the economy for all the lives he disappeared.
 
shecky said:
I suppose I'd feel better if Friedman was chummy with OJ Simpson, and even smaller time murderous beast. But Pinochet at least grew the economy for all the lives he disappeared.
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So did OJ. He pumped millions into his legal team. Think of all the second- and third-rate journalists who worked overtime to cover every minute of that courtroom debacle. And remember howhe tried to give back to the community again by writing a fictional account of the murders? That's not too shabby for a death toll of 2.
 
timhau said:
However, as far as murderous beasts go, Pinochet was small-time. Not a nice guy, but miles and miles behind the worst -- and, remarkably, the only dictator I can think of who gave up power because of a referendum that went against him.
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It also occurs to me, somewhat belatedly, that Chavez also seems somewhat behind Pinochet in the bad guy department. And still somewhat popular in Venezuela. Though he still has time to rectify those points.

Seriously, if the likes of Chavez were the worst the US had to worry about, I'd say the US had no significant worries at all. Americans who view him as a threat are greatly overstating their case.
 
Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind the idea that actors and musicians views on politics are such newsworthy events. The last time I checked Political Science wasn't a requirment to act. I don't understand people who are shocked when someone like Sean Penn rides with Chavez, or Camaron Diaz wears a purse with communist slogans on it. I also don't understand the people who think that there endorsement means that they should follow along. I guess what I am trying to say is most of these people are idiots with a talent, or at least some amount of talent, for entertaining us, yet many think that their opinions carry some great weight. I don't take legal advice from my doctor but I bet he understands the legal system better than Sean Penn understands Poly Sci.
 
For some time I have argued that the Democratic Party's love affair with Hollywood Celebs backfires on them among Blue Collar voters.They take one look at the glitzy Hollywood Democrats and think "What have they got in common with me?"
Yes,use the Hollywood crowd as a cash cow and for fund raising,but otherwise keep them in the background. You are just making yourselves nice juicy targets for the opposition.
I remember in 2002 Babs Streisands attempts to actually dictate Democratic Party strategy. Fiasco.
And like a great many people,I have to question the sincerity of someone who makes Ten Million bucks a picture but spouts militant left wing opinions.
You get the feeling they want a Socialist Society,but wants themsleves exempted from it.
 
I saw another a news blurb last night that mentioned Sean Penn "propping up the South American dictator".

The template is set and the media just fills in the blanks.
 
dudalb said:
Which is what would have happened with Gore if the court had ruled the other way in 2000.
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No. If the court had ruled the other way, they would have permitted the votes to be counted, and the voters would have put whoever got the most votes into office.
 
Dr Adequate said:
No. If the court had ruled the other way, they would have permitted the votes to be counted, and the voters would have put whoever got the most votes into office.
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Which sounds fine until you take into account that no one could agree on which precincts should be re-counted and how they should be counted.

But it was the Gore campaign that involved the courts in the first place, led by campaign manager "Honest Bill" Daley and his demand to recount only Dem-leaning counties.
 
Someone please fill in a gap in my knowledge for a non-USAian.

Sean Penn is the US Ambassador/Secretary/Congressman/Governor/Official Spokesman for...where?
 
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