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Merged SCotUS nominee - Neil Gorsuch

I am trying to figure out what the hell an Episcopalian was doing in a Jesuit School.:D
Jesuit's schools are usually pretty good and they let anyone in if they pay tuition. My old man when to a Jesuit school in Ireland and had Hindu and Sikh classmates.

Also, unless you're an Anglican or a Catholic, the only way to tell the difference between an Anglican service and a Catholic is if their happens to be a women at the pulpit.
 
Why was it a Republican pick?

Are you saying that showing respect for Scalia means that Obama should have picked another right-wing justice?

The campaign was not "in full swing" in March.

Scalia was conservative, and his death was untimely. Seems natural to believe it's fair that he should have been replaced by another conservative. It certainly would have preserved the status quo. Why do you think it was a pick that belonged to the Democrats?
 
Scalia was conservative, and his death was untimely. Seems natural to believe it's fair that he should have been replaced by another conservative. It certainly would have preserved the status quo. Why do you think it was a pick that belonged to the Democrats?

It seems you are lacking basic understanding on how nomination for Scotus works.

There is no law calling for a specific balance on the court.
But there is one about who gets to nominate a judge.
 
Also, unless you're an Anglican or a Catholic, the only way to tell the difference between an Anglican service and a Catholic is if their happens to be a women at the pulpit.

Oh, there's a few other stylistic differences. Like "Holy Ghost" (Anglican) vs. "Holy Spirit" (Catholic). The typical prayers are also a little bit different.
 
It seems you are lacking basic understanding on how nomination for Scotus works.

There is no law calling for a specific balance on the court.
But there is one about who gets to nominate a judge.

There is also no law about the Senate being required to confirm a judge, or even to vote on one once nominated.
 
It seems you are lacking basic understanding on how nomination for Scotus works.

There is no law calling for a specific balance on the court.
But there is one about who gets to nominate a judge.

Right. And President Obama got to nominate one. I didn't necessarily agree with his choice, but, well, he had a right to nominate one, and he did just that.
 
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Scalia was conservative, and his death was untimely. Seems natural to believe it's fair that he should have been replaced by another conservative. It certainly would have preserved the status quo. Why do you think it was a pick that belonged to the Democrats?

I can only assume you are being facetious here. Perhaps you are ridiculing the idea that one "side" or the other got to do a replacement because of the timing of Scalia's death while a Democrat happened to be president.



I think the wailing and gnashing of teeth is amusing on this thread. It's about power. The Republicans held the Senate. They were under no obligation to vote on Obama's nominee. The only thing they had to fear was the potential wrath of the voters, except that the voters didn't seem to mind, so there was no wrath. Well, ok, there was plenty of wrath in solidly blue states, but the incumbent Republicans had nothing to fear from their own constituents.

I think to most people the idea of leaving the seat vacant and letting the voters decide who got to pick the replacement seemed fairly reasonable.

What might be interesting would be if one party controlled the senate and another the White House, and the senate simply refused to vote, ever. Maybe for four years. If the voters did not rebel against the inaction, how long could it go on? I could see a lawsuit saying that the senate had to at least hold a vote, but if they voted the nominees down, I can't see a successful lawsuit saying either they had to confirm someone, or that the confirmation process itself could be skipped.

The way things are going, we might be able to find out. This time, they held the seat for a year, and the voters didn't seem to mind. I'll bet that the voters would be willing to let it go a lot longer. Will we see a multi-year vacancy in the future that lasts until the Senate and White House are controlled by the same party? It looks like that's where we are headed.
 
The way things are going, we might be able to find out. This time, they held the seat for a year, and the voters didn't seem to mind. I'll bet that the voters would be willing to let it go a lot longer.

I'm not sure about that. I think if the Dems filibuster all the way until 2020 and the Reps don't use the nuclear option, we might see some of those Republican senators get knocked off in primaries, ala Eric Cantor. So this isn't the same as last year. If both parties play to their base again, then the Dems will filibuster, and the Reps will nuke the filibuster, and Trump will get his appointment.
 
I'm not sure about that. I think if the Dems filibuster all the way until 2020 and the Reps don't use the nuclear option, we might see some of those Republican senators get knocked off in primaries, ala Eric Cantor. So this isn't the same as last year. If both parties play to their base again, then the Dems will filibuster, and the Reps will nuke the filibuster, and Trump will get his appointment.

Right. I was unclear. This specific nomination wasn't what I had in mind, but rather the next time that the White House and Senate were in opposite camps, so that the opposition party, i.e. the one that held the Senate, could hold out indefinitely.

In this particular situation, I think you are correct. Basically, it will be a case where, if the Dems decide to stonewall it, the Democratic base and leaners will congratulate them for doing what they think is right. If the Republicans decide to not break the logjam, Republican voters and leaners will be more inclined to punish them, because they could have done something, but didn't.
 
Scalia was conservative, and his death was untimely. Seems natural to believe it's fair that he should have been replaced by another conservative. It certainly would have preserved the status quo. Why do you think it was a pick that belonged to the Democrats?

Supreme Court nominations don't "belong" to any party or ideology. I'm stunned that I have to make that simple statement to you.

Yes, it would have preserved the status quo. So what? Is there a premium for that? And I bet that every president who had a chance to nominate a justice picked his choice completely disregarding the ideology of the dead justice. They pick people who reflect the views of the president in power. Period.

You ok, summaster14? Too much celebrating? Get caught in a snowstorm and got whiteout? Your post reflects the insight level of a high school freshman in his first civics class. I hope you get better.
 
There is also no law about the Senate being required to confirm a judge, or even to vote on one once nominated.

No, there isn't. There was a time when both sides of the aisle took their job seriously. There was debate (sometimes quite heated) but usually a compromise was found then the nation moved on.

But no more. Now it's preservation of power above all and especially above country. And no one exemplifies this degradation of our politics norms than McConnell. The Republicans no longer give a **** about governance. They have rejected the notion that compromise is the grease that allows things to get done. No, it's "my way or the highway".
 
Supreme Court nominations don't "belong" to any party or ideology. I'm stunned that I have to make that simple statement to you.

Oh, ok. Seems reasonable. Maybe you should explain that to thaiboxerken.

Yes, it would have preserved the status quo. So what? Is there a premium for that? And I bet that every president who had a chance to nominate a justice picked his choice completely disregarding the ideology of the dead justice. They pick people who reflect the views of the president in power. Period.

You ok, summaster14? Too much celebrating? Get caught in a snowstorm and got whiteout? Your post reflects the insight level of a high school freshman in his first civics class. I hope you get better.

I'm ok. Just maybe a little too subtle for some people I guess.
 
And what exactly do you think the Democrats can do about it? Republicans blocked Obama's 3rd pick (but never tried that with his first 2) because they had the majority, and the Dems could do nothing to push him through. Dems can try to block Trump's 1st pick, but what exactly do you think that's going to accomplish? Do they want to get the filibuster nuked?

Yes, I think they should force the nuclear option.
 
No, there isn't. There was a time when both sides of the aisle took their job seriously. There was debate (sometimes quite heated) but usually a compromise was found then the nation moved on.

But no more. Now it's preservation of power above all and especially above country. And no one exemplifies this degradation of our politics norms than McConnell.

You seem to be unaware of a man by the name of Harry Reid.

The Republicans no longer give a **** about governance.

That's an ironic complaint to be making now.

They have rejected the notion that compromise is the grease that allows things to get done. No, it's "my way or the highway".

Again, Harry Reid.
 
I have to admit that I'm interpreting the exchange in the same way as Chris B is. Perhaps clarification rather than nay-saying would be more useful?
Fine, no prob.

ChrisBFRPKY, you first. What did then-Senator Joe Biden say with regard to this issue? Put another way, what is the "Biden Rule?"
 

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