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Merged SCotUS nominee - Neil Gorsuch

Minoosh said:
Logger informs me that I don't want policymakers who believe this world is the one we need to protect. Logger, how did you come to this belief? I don't want people who think they're going to get raptured, or who want to start wars to fulfill some end-times scenario.

You chose not to address my take on evangelical voters. Which is fine, I've never been sure whether to paint them all with the same brush. Some of them believe in stewardship and have other values I share. But many are rabid rightists eager to see the world burn.
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No end-times pols please.

Logger: I would have welcomed a good faith argument.
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You accused me, so I accused you. How do you like it? ;)
 
Ziggurat said:
Anyone surprised by that should be embarrassed (to be clear, not suggesting you were).
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The way things are now, it's difficult to avoid cynicism when it comes to news and reports. My earlier comment, "Huh...", denoted that, if true, it was oddly specific considering his appointment by an administration accused by its foes of fascism (not an uncommon accusation from both sides of the political spectrum, nowadays) and, if false wasn't a particularily clever bit of fake news.
 
Graham2001 said:
I think these two articles are important, there are plenty of real reasons to oppose Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court, the use of click-bait stories on the other hand...



http://www.snopes.com/neil-gorsuch-separation-of-white-and-black/

The quote about the "advancement of the white race" is real, but it was said by David Duke.



http://www.snopes.com/neil-gorsuchs-fascism-forever-club/
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I am trying to figure out what the hell an Episcopalian was doing in a Jesuit School.:D
 
IMHO, Goresuch is a conservative, yes, but not extreme nutjob. I guess we should be grateful for that.
Frankly, I don't think it would be a wise move for the Dems to use a lot of political capital in this fight,unless really damaging stuff comes out in the hearings.
 
This didn't need it's own thread. Good grief. The fascist claim was thoroughly debunked in the Gorsuch thread complete with a pic of the yearbook joke the claim was based on.
 
I for one am glad that the fake news about Gorsuch has been called out and addressed separately from the general debate about his nomination.

ETA: Well, this sucks.
 
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logger said:
You accused me, so I accused you.
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Just like Jesus would have done?

I didn't accuse you of anything.

My concern with certain religious leaders in politics comes from the fact that belief in an afterlife, or an imminent apocalypse, or rapture, might lead some to believe that our earthly lives are not than important, therefore AGW etc. don't matter. I don't want anyone in office who thinks the world is going to end soon.

Do you want to talk about that?
 
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Minoosh said:
Just like Jesus would have done?

I didn't accuse you of anything.
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You just did it again with your opening sentence!
My concern with certain religious leaders in politics comes from the fact that belief in an afterlife, or an imminent apocalypse, or rapture, might lead some to believe that our earthly lives are not than important, therefore AGW etc. don't matter. I don't want anyone in office who thinks the world is going to end soon.

Do you want to talk about that?
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That's because you don't know the Bible, I know, so surprising.
Jesus said no man knows the hour or day. That means don't concern yourself with when. I don't want anyone in office who would be so ignorant of things spiritual. ;)
 
logger said:
You just did it again with your opening sentence!

That's because you don't know the Bible, I know, so surprising.
Jesus said no man knows the hour or day. That means don't concern yourself with when. I don't want anyone in office who would be so ignorant of things spiritual. ;)
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That went right over your head. Your response was to something other than what was said.
 
dudalb said:
IMHO, Goresuch is a conservative, yes, but not extreme nutjob. I guess we should be grateful for that.
Frankly, I don't think it would be a wise move for the Dems to use a lot of political capital in this fight,unless really damaging stuff comes out in the hearings.
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I don't agree. The Democrats need to send a message to the Republicans that stealing SCOTUS picks will not be tolerated.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I don't agree. The Democrats need to send a message to the Republicans that stealing SCOTUS picks will not be tolerated.
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And what exactly do you think the Democrats can do about it? Republicans blocked Obama's 3rd pick (but never tried that with his first 2) because they had the majority, and the Dems could do nothing to push him through. Dems can try to block Trump's 1st pick, but what exactly do you think that's going to accomplish? Do they want to get the filibuster nuked?
 
thaiboxerken said:
I don't agree. The Democrats need to send a message to the Republicans that stealing SCOTUS picks will not be tolerated.
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That's an interesting definition of "stealing" you're using there. From a perfectly reasonable perspective, the Democrats tried to steal a Republican SCOTUS pick. Rather than showing respect for Scalia's conservative legacy and his untimely death, Obama tried to get a 3rd SCOTUS pick out of his Presidency (more than any other President since Reagan) when the campaign to pick the next President was already in full swing.
 
sunmaster14 said:
From a perfectly reasonable perspective, the Democrats tried to steal a Republican SCOTUS pick. Rather than showing respect for Scalia's conservative legacy and his untimely death, Obama tried to get a 3rd SCOTUS pick out of his Presidency (more than any other President since Reagan) when the campaign to pick the next President was already in full swing.
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Why was it a Republican pick?

Are you saying that showing respect for Scalia means that Obama should have picked another right-wing justice?

The campaign was not "in full swing" in March.
 
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