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"About a year ago I saw him upset in the morning," student Brent Black told ABC News. "And I was like, 'yo what’s wrong with you?' And he was like 'umm, don’t know.' And I was like 'what’s up with you?' He's like 'I swear to God I'll shoot up this school.'"

A young man who keeps his promises. Also, smart move with the fire alarm. I don't think I've seen that before. Obviously this school needs a security guard named "Kevin" getting paid $16/hour and is hot **** on Call of Duty.
 
And yet again the price of freedom goes up. But it's ok. It's only high school teens. They should be proud to die so others can keep their guns.
 
William Parcher said:
...... It seems to have become infested with killers and I don't know how or why it happened.
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Then you're not paying attention.

Why does this only happen in America? Could it be that every other country which has acts of violence reacts by reducing the availability of weapons, and that that works? It seems insane to not even give it a try when you have slaughter on the scale happening in America.
 
MikeG said:
Then you're not paying attention.

Why does this only happen in America? Could it be that every other country which has acts of violence reacts by reducing the availability of weapons, and that that works? It seems insane to not even give it a try when you have slaughter on the scale happening in America.
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I believe the massive inequalities in the USA and the lack of any class mobility are a strong driver for events like this. What future has this young man lost by going mental like this? What were his incentives to strive to be a taxpaying citizen rather than a school shooting lunatic?

I'm guessing, just from the fact that he was expelled, that this young man's future was all but proscribed for him and he looked at it and thought '**** it, where's my rifle'
 
Dave Rogers said:
I believe that a big part of the problem was that the answer was "Ah, right here!"

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Part of it. The availability of a firearm meant that rather than going mental in a local news type way, he's gone mental in an international news type way.

Given that there's no real discussion to be had over the firearm situation in the US, I think a more productive dialogue might be to speculate over the reasons a human being gets out of bed and decides to end as many lives as possible one morning.
 
There is nothing that can be done to stop the mass shootings. Just learn to cope, it is part of living in the USA.

There have been loads of school shootings before and when kids mass shoot other kids and that is not enough to galvanise a country to act, nothing will.
 
Apparently there have been 18 US school shootings already this year, eight of them with fatalities and with a total of 35 deaths. Quite incredible when in the UK I believe we've only had one school shooting in recorded history, and that was in 1996. I might be wrong on this, but a quick check seems to suggest that outside of war zones, the US has the worst record for school shootings of any country in the world.
 
3point14 said:
Part of it. The availability of a firearm meant that rather than going mental in a local news type way, he's gone mental in an international news type way.

Given that there's no real discussion to be had over the firearm situation in the US, I think a more productive dialogue might be to speculate over the reasons a human being gets out of bed and decides to end as many lives as possible one morning.
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The expectation that you can solve all your problems with a single simple solution that involves violence. Just like John Wayne did.
 
When I was a young teen I had an older friend who was a highschool dropout with a bit of a drug problem. He had some powerful resentments against various authority figures like high school principles. We used to sit around and ******** about his revenge. It was all talk, it was like Alice Cooper's School's Out. His concealed weapon? A can-opener.

All that seems charmingly innocent now -- the beer and quaaludes, the band.

Times have changed

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It seems you don't have to be psychotic to go on killer rampages these days.
 
3point14 said:
Part of it. The availability of a firearm meant that rather than going mental in a local news type way, he's gone mental in an international news type way.

Given that there's no real discussion to be had over the firearm situation in the US, I think a more productive dialogue might be to speculate over the reasons a human being gets out of bed and decides to end as many lives as possible one morning.
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It is ingrained and part of the US culture that an unhappy youth is enabled to easily get a gun and go and kill in a school.

Lots of other kids have already shot up their school, without the country bothering to take any genuine preventative action.

When an entire country rolls over and accepts school shootings, it should not then wonder why there are more school shootings. It is part of the American psyche to accept mass shootings, even when kids do it to other kids in schools.

The mass school shootings in Germany (6 of them, the first was in 1913) and Finland (3 from 1989 to 2008) galvanised the entire country to act and there was an acceptance some would have to have their activities restricted for the benefit of the whole. The same happened in the UK and that was after only one school mass shooting. Americans do not think one person should suffer restricted rights, even if it is for the benefit of millions of children.
 
Norman Alexander said:
The expectation that you can solve all your problems with a single simple solution that involves violence. Just like John Wayne did.
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But what problems? You've described the end point, how does a 19 year old get to the point where he has so many problems he has to solve them all at once at many feet per second?

This man is 19 and has decided that the biggest impact he can make on the world is to end as many lives as possible, solving, as you say, all his problems John Wayne style. My question is why?

What does it say about his view of his prospects for the rest of his life in the land of the free and the home of the brave where anyone can grow up to be president if he thought his best option was to go out in blaze of glory at the age of 19?
 
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