Sarah Palin!

kallsop said:
Nonetheless, a much more courageous VP choice than Kinnock Biden.
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One man's courageous is another man's reckless and foolhardy

Today I have been reading many top democrats ridiculing Palin because she is as young and inexperienced as Obama. I don't know who sets the democrat talking points, but they should be fired for incompetence.
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Actually, younger and less experienced

GregHouseMD said:
Thinner than Obama?
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yep
She's been Governor of Alaska for two years,
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Actually, one year nine months as of September 4.

just as long as Bill was Governor of Arkansass before getting defeated in his first bid for reelection.
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:confused: And just as long as Joe Biden was senator after he had been senator for 2 years. But when Clinton was elected president, he had served 2 years as Arkansas attorney general, 2 years as governor, 2 years out of office, and another 10 years as governor. 14 years in state office.

Repeating from an earlier post:
gdnp said:
Obama's political experience:

8 yrs state legislator in Illinois, population 12.8 million, representing part of Chicago, population 2.8 million.
3 years 8 months US senator

Palin's political experience:

4 years Wasilla city council. I use "city" loosely: the population in 2000 was 5,470. Now maybe 10,000 people.
6 years Wasilla mayor
1 year 9 months Governor of Alaska, population 670,000.
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You still don't think that Palin's political resume is thinner than Obamas? No national political experience, 10 years representing a town of less than 10,000 people, and less than 2 years as governor of a state that ranks 47th in population, accounting for a whopping 0.22% of the US population?

By comparison, Bill Clinton was criticized for being the governor of a small state. Arkansas's population is 4 times larger than Alaska's.
 
My trouble and I had lunch at a local pub today and all the women were commenting on the fact that it was a ploy to get Hillary supporters to vote repub and when she did her glass ceiling and Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary reference they went batguano. But it won't matter here, NY is going Obama in any case.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I may be stupid for asking, but what does this mean?
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Staring contest - guy who blinks loses - first heard of it in a xmas show in 1952 on TV (NBC most likely) where a town was in trouble (near xmas) cause a mean gunslinger (Satan)was troubling the townfolk - when up and appeared a gunfighter in all white (an angel, duh!!) who challenged him (or vice-versa to a staring contest). It (the show) lasted (IIRC - I was 6 yrs old at the time) five or six days running ten or 15 min. a day in the kid's afternoon time Howdy Doody, Crusader Rabbit, Ruff N. Reddy (Local with a kid's cartoon, etc. show). The angel eventually won though , again IIRC, because he broke the stare to do a good deed. Anyway, when you say someone blinked, it means they lost whatever is being talked about/implied.
 
gdnp said:
One man's courageous is another man's reckless and foolhardy

Actually, younger and less experienced


yep
Actually, one year nine months as of September 4.


:confused: And just as long as Joe Biden was senator after he had been senator for 2 years. But when Clinton was elected president, he had served 2 years as Arkansas attorney general, 2 years as governor, 2 years out of office, and another 10 years as governor. 14 years in state office.

Repeating from an earlier post:


You still don't think that Palin's political resume is thinner than Obamas? No national political experience, 10 years representing a town of less than 10,000 people, and less than 2 years as governor of a state that ranks 47th in population, accounting for a whopping 0.22% of the US population?

By comparison, Bill Clinton was criticized for being the governor of a small state. Arkansas's population is 4 times larger than Alaska's.
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One ran a town and a state and one ran his mouth.

;)
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Thank you for telling me why I am disgusted. I just love that.

I had (and have) the means to stay at home with my kids and thank the FSM, the health insurance to pay for my second son's endless medical bills. I am disgusted with Gov. Palin (and my friends echo the sentiment) because rushing back to work three days after the kid is born shows more concern for one's job than one's child. Not one of my friends, even the two friends who work full-time went back to work three days later. Even the one who never really wanted to be a mom took off more time than that. Perhaps when you are on your fifth kid, you just don't give a damn anymore.
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If your vote is dependant on how much time the women spends with her kids then you and your neighborhood need to step out of your cocoon and see how real families live. Patsy Ramsey spent nearly every waking moment with Jonbenet, and tried to live vicariously through her. That worked out well. Let's match your children with Palin's and see which ones are better adjusted.
 
Cicero said:
If your vote is dependant on how much time the women spends with her kids then you and your neighborhood need to step out of your cocoon and see how real families live. Patsy Ramsey spent nearly every waking moment with Jonbenet, and tried to live vicariously through her. That worked out well. Let's match your children with Palin's and see which ones are better adjusted.
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You don't know me and you don't know my children.
 
I rarely post in Politics, but please help me understand this -- there have been eight pages so far, and one simple question appears yet to be asked or answered:

What does she bring to the table?

I see the choice as shrewd, but risky, in a purely election-tactical sense. The day the election is over, I don't see any wisdom to this pick. VP is not a training position, it's a spare. I don't find Joe Biden to be an inspiring pick, but it is sound, and he is certainly capable enough. Cheney has earned all kinds of unpleasant descriptions, but "incompetent" is not one of them. Al Gore c. 1992 was a fresher face, but he brought energy and policy ideas to create a balanced ticket.

So is there more to Ms. Palin? So far, I don't see it at all.
 
R.Mackey said:
I rarely post in Politics, but please help me understand this -- there have been eight pages so far, and one simple question appears yet to be asked or answered:

What does she bring to the table?

I see the choice as shrewd, but risky, in a purely election-tactical sense. The day the election is over, I don't see any wisdom to this pick. VP is not a training position, it's a spare. I don't find Joe Biden to be an inspiring pick, but it is sound, and he is certainly capable enough. Cheney has earned all kinds of unpleasant descriptions, but "incompetent" is not one of them. Al Gore c. 1992 was a fresher face, but he brought energy and policy ideas to create a balanced ticket.

So is there more to Ms. Palin? So far, I don't see it at all.
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Palin is very much a gamble on the part of the Republican party. If she makes a big gaffe in foreign or domestic policy (like any of the gaffes McCain has made; Sunnis vs Shi'as for example), it could sink their entire campaign.

I personally think she's this cycle's Dan Quayle, but I'm a staunch Democrat.
 
Cicero said:
If your vote is dependant on how much time the women spends with her kids then you and your neighborhood need to step out of your cocoon and see how real families live. Patsy Ramsey spent nearly every waking moment with Jonbenet, and tried to live vicariously through her. That worked out well. Let's match your children with Palin's and see which ones are better adjusted.
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I am one of Lisa's children. I'm not sure that you really want to go into the "well adjusted" argument with me.
 
chipmunk stew said:
What does it say about you that you can't distinguish a battalion from a regiment from a brigade?
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If I were chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations I might want to be able to distinguish between the various tables of organization in the U.S. military. Or do you think only those who sit on the Armed Services Committee need to know this?
 
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