Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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jargon buster said:
PM me his name and I will contact him.

I have searched high and low for it, it simply doesn't exist, he's a liar.
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You do realize that it is possible to buy land by way of a blind trust, right?

Do you know the name of the trust under which the land was purchased, and if not, how can you claim I am lying?

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FreemanMenard said:
You do realize that it is possible to buy land by way of a blind trust, right?

Do you know the name of the trust under which the land was purchased, and if not, how can you claim I am lying?

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So, Bobby boy, why don’t you close the door on all this and make your doubters look bad by giving the reader the parcel identifier number or civic address for freeman valley?

If the parcel comes up as Ray’s then we call him and get his side of the story. If it comes up as held in a blind trust then your latest story holds some water.

If the parcel comes up in your name your doubters tuck their tails between their legs and slink off while you heckle.

Dang, ole son, how can you pass that up?

Bobby, the distinct possibility arises that neither you nor your associates have any land on which freeman valley is located.

If that is the case individuals who may have given you money or signed promissory notes in order to participate in your little society have been defrauded.
 
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as someone who lives near the area where menard is said to have land, (60-80 miles away) i can tell you that it is not too hard to believe.
110 acres near dawson creek could have been worth as little as 20-30,000 dollars a few years ago, depending on exactly where it is and the percentage of arable land, which could be low, due to the amount of forest in the area.
south of dawson creek there is not as much development, so the land could have been worth even less.
 
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bikerdruid said:
as someone who lives near the area where menard is said to have land, (60-80 miles away) i can tell you that it is not too hard to believe.
110 acres near dawson creek could have been worth as little as 20-30,000 dollars a few years ago, depending on exactly where it is and the percentage of arable land, which could be low, due to the amount of forest in the area.
south of dawson creek there is not as much development, so the land could have been worth even less.
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The hypothetical is believable. Menard is less so.
 
What amazes me is how Rob Menard can have any followers at all at this point. It would be so easy to send every critic packing and receive international media attention as a sovereign freeman guru by providing 1, single case - about anything and from any common law country in the world - where someone won their case because their status as a "freeman on the land" exempted them from the local law. And the answer can't be that they can't do that because judges never admit when the law doesn't apply to a defendant - they do it all the time: any case dismissed for jurisdiction, sovereign immunity (in the case of diplomats), etc. all contain language stating that the person's status exempts them from that particular law/jurisdiction.

The simplicity of it can be understood by anyone, no law degree required.
I mean, how much easier can it be? Provide that and every one of us is silenced, gone, forever defeated - you'd win, Rob. The BBC and New York Times would be beating down your doorstep and the book publishers would be calling you all day to get you to write your Freeman law guide.

So when you look at it that way - that Rob could "win" and make more money than his birth certificate bond by providing 1 single case, its really not so surprising that he can't provide the address for Freeman valley. By the way: Has there been and comment on what Rob will do when I want to move into freeman valley and pay for everything with Accepted for Value? And why is it that Rob's Freeman Propaganda Shop online sells everything in exchange for trashy, evil federal reserve notes - why can't I A4V items sent to be by Robs store? If you accept government paper in any form you are de facto agreeing to participate in society, Rob.
 
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What amazes me is how Rob Menard can have any followers at all at this point.
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TBH I don't think he does anymore, none that are prepared to send him any money that is.
Thats why when he gets a "Lance Thatcher" he creams them for as much as he can.
Why else would you do that if you had a regular income stream?
Sure rob will always have the newbies coming along who think they have just "woken up" but they only need to read a few posts on here to realise he isn't the solution he first appeared to be.
He has been exposed on all the freeman sites, even his own site (WFS) ignores him now.

He will still pop in here now and again to try and bury his lies with rehetoric but the truth is still in the pages.

Bye bye Menard, the gravy train has come off the rails.
Lets wait and see if CBC run his story. :D
 
arayder said:
FreemanMenard said:
You do realize that it is possible to buy land by way of a blind trust, right?

Do you know the name of the trust under which the land was purchased, and if not, how can you claim I am lying?

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So, Bobby boy, why don’t you close the door on all this and make your doubters look bad by giving the reader the parcel identifier number or civic address for freeman valley?
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He can't: it was bought by way of a blind trust, so as a beneficiary of the trust not only does he not know where it is, he doesn't even know that the trust includes land.
 
He can't: it was bought by way of a blind trust, so as a beneficiary of the trust not only does he not know where it is, he doesn't even know that the trust includes land.
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Yep, once again a massive foot in mouth moment from Rob.
Thats what happens when you have absolutly no idea what youre talking about.
Blind Trust. Hehehe :rolleyes:
 
So are you saying you are the administrator of the said Blind Trust?

I see you replied on ickes to Moderator weeman, I bet you never had cause to criticise Melonclone did you.

Shoes on the other foot and you dont like it Rob.
They want answers and if you dont give them you may find yourself out in the cold and snakeoil loses its viscosity when its cold.

and hes gone again...probably going to check if an administrator of the Blind trust can also be a benificiary of the trust :rolleyes:
 
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LightinDarkness said:
What amazes me is how Rob Menard can have any followers at all at this point. It would be so easy to send every critic packing and receive international media attention as a sovereign freeman guru by providing 1, single case - about anything and from any common law country in the world - where someone won their case because their status as a "freeman on the land" exempted them from the local law. And the answer can't be that they can't do that because judges never admit when the law doesn't apply to a defendant - they do it all the time: any case dismissed for jurisdiction, sovereign immunity (in the case of diplomats), etc. all contain language stating that the person's status exempts them from that particular law/jurisdiction.

The simplicity of it can be understood by anyone, no law degree required.
I mean, how much easier can it be? Provide that and every one of us is silenced, gone, forever defeated - you'd win, Rob. The BBC and New York Times would be beating down your doorstep and the book publishers would be calling you all day to get you to write your Freeman law guide.

So when you look at it that way - that Rob could "win" and make more money than his birth certificate bond by providing 1 single case, its really not so surprising that he can't provide the address for Freeman valley. By the way: Has there been and comment on what Rob will do when I want to move into freeman valley and pay for everything with Accepted for Value? And why is it that Rob's Freeman Propaganda Shop online sells everything in exchange for trashy, evil federal reserve notes - why can't I A4V items sent to be by Robs store? If you accept government paper in any form you are de facto agreeing to participate in society, Rob.
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Um, I do not have any followers. And never did. But because you think in terms of leaders and followers, being one of the latter yourself, you are blind to the truth.

You also wonder why I do not do something you would do to gain what you feel is important. All you are doing is showing us what is important to YOU. Your assumptions reveal those quite plainly.

This movement is not for those who are so immature they need to be shown proof before they follow a leader. It is for those who are mature enough to look in their own hearts and not follow anyone. But you have always been blind to that fact haven't you?
 
FreemanMenard said:
Um, I do not have any followers. And never did.
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I too believe you have no followers, Rob.
Perhaps in the past some people did look up to you as some kind of hero figure, but now that you have been exposed for what you are, no one believes anything you say anymore.
 
Mojo said:
You won't be living there?

It's going to be kind of tricky to get anyone living there if they don't know where it is.
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People who need to know where it is, know where it is. Just like your house. Tell me why do any of you need to know where it is, when none of you live there, nor wish to?
 
Stacey Grove said:
I too believe you have no followers, Rob.
Perhaps in the past some people did look up to you as some kind of hero figure, but now that you have been exposed for what you are, no one believes anything you say anymore.
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Wow must be tiring speaking for everybody.

Exposed as a simple and humble man with more questions than answers and a work in progress. Ouch.:rolleyes:

At least i do not fear the light, nor telling people who I am.:D

Did you wish to tell the hundreds of people who email me weekly what they are to think too?

Go ahead and try to tear me down, try to attack me where your ego is. It makes me laugh.
 
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