Road Rage in the Southland

[CaptainHowdy]

Don't you have to stop if you've been involved in an accident in the USA?

That's my understanding of the law.

 

[BStrong]

Sportbikes are the ones that cause the vast majority of shenanigans that I see myself. I've had on more than one occasion some moron pass me on the right.

While I was in the right lane.

At a red light.

I may just have to pull into a driveway next time.

It's actually happened to me, pulling into my driveway here in S.F.

Very cute young girl on scooter with fake helmet, no other protective gear.

She was very lucky that I trust no one while driving and always look more than once. Afterwards, I checked my security video (I've got a camera that faces downward towards my driveway and the street) to make sure I had my right turn signal on before she pulled her pass - I did.

 

[casebro]

I saw it on TV. If that was a dash camera, it has been edited intentionally- snipped off the car cutting off the bike? If cell phone, something happened to make the owner want to take pics, like the car trying to run onto the bike.

There are citizens out there with dash cams, I wonder if more video has/will surface/d?

 

[BStrong]

I saw it on TV. If that was a dash camera, it has been edited intentionally- snipped off the car cutting off the bike? If cell phone, something happened to make the owner want to take pics, like the car trying to run onto the bike.

There are citizens out there with dash cams, I wonder if more video has/will surface/d?

Definitely not an LE dash cam, but lots of folks have dash mounted cams now in personal vehicles and more commercial vehicles are incorporating video cams as additional employee safety gear - if the employee wasn't at fault in an accident nothing proves it better than video.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

It says cell phone video on the screen.

I agree, something made the guy get the camera out. But that doesn't excuse the kick.

Then you have a driver who over-corrected twice. To me that says his initial swerve toward the bike could have either been intentional or reflexive.

 

[Elagabalus]

Tail lights and saddle bag shape. Could be another big-twin type bike, including Japanese types, but it looks pretty H-D to me.

Possibly a newer Indian. But yeah, definitely a big twin.


Might be time for some rattle can bling!


"say, Bob, how come you repainted your new motorcycle with a rattle can?"

Yeah, I was watching MadMax again, god, I love that movie, and decided to paint my bike in Post-Apocalyptic matte black. Just decided to do it right on the spot! Didn't even think about it really...

 

[William Parcher]

That bike has three brake lights, which is not typical for Harley.

 

[BStrong]

That bike has three brake lights, which is not typical for Harley.

Looked to me like one on each bag, one on the rear fender.

 

[William Parcher]

Also the two side brake lights (which probably also act as turn signals) are mounted above the main center light. Almost certainly not a Harley.

 

[BStrong]

Also the two side brake lights (which probably also act as turn signals) are mounted above the main center light. Almost certainly not a Harley.

I'll defer to your estimation. On H-D external features I'm no expert - Knuckles, Pans and Shovelhead motors and transmissions I'm a little more familiar with.

The Evo's on, not so much.

 

[mgidm86]

The guy on the bike watches a car flip over right next to him and just keeps riding? Scum.

I ride, though it's been many years. It is frustrating how many times your life is nearly ended by some other driver virtually every time you get on a bike.

You're on your own on a bike, or at least you'd better have that attitude. Assume that nobody sees you, ever...that's how you should ride.

I've been tempted to kick a mirror off a car once or twice (not at 70 mph), but of course never have. This guy is an idiot and gives riders a bad name. A lot of bikers do, as much as I'd like to side with the rider.

To answer a few questions - he probably was cut off way before this video begins. Could have been a mile or more, or not.

Maybe the car switched lanes forcing the bike onto the shoulder. That happened to me in my truck recently. Guy right next to me changed lanes without looking, didn't see me, and just went - all the way into my lane forcing me to the shoulder. He never ever even looked, thank goodness I did.

 

[Elagabalus]

The guy on the bike watches a car flip over right next to him and just keeps riding? Scum.

I ride, though it's been many years. It is frustrating how many times your life is nearly ended by some other driver virtually every time you get on a bike.

You're on your own on a bike, or at least you'd better have that attitude. Assume that nobody sees you, ever...that's how you should ride.

I've been tempted to kick a mirror off a car once or twice (not at 70 mph), but of course never have. This guy is an idiot and gives riders a bad name. A lot of bikers do, as much as I'd like to side with the rider.

To answer a few questions - he probably was cut off way before this video begins. Could have been a mile or more, or not.

Maybe the car switched lanes forcing the bike onto the shoulder. That happened to me in my truck recently. Guy right next to me changed lanes without looking, didn't see me, and just went - all the way into my lane forcing me to the shoulder. He never ever even looked, thank goodness I did.

Apparently, the kid in the car actually nudged the biker before the video:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/06/22/motorcycle-kick-road-rage/

 

[BStrong]

The guy on the bike watches a car flip over right next to him and just keeps riding? Scum.

I ride, though it's been many years. It is frustrating how many times your life is nearly ended by some other driver virtually every time you get on a bike.

You're on your own on a bike, or at least you'd better have that attitude. Assume that nobody sees you, ever...that's how you should ride.

I've been tempted to kick a mirror off a car once or twice (not at 70 mph), but of course never have. This guy is an idiot and gives riders a bad name. A lot of bikers do, as much as I'd like to side with the rider.

To answer a few questions - he probably was cut off way before this video begins. Could have been a mile or more, or not.

Maybe the car switched lanes forcing the bike onto the shoulder. That happened to me in my truck recently. Guy right next to me changed lanes without looking, didn't see me, and just went - all the way into my lane forcing me to the shoulder. He never ever even looked, thank goodness I did.

If the PV pulled pulled some stupid human trick I can understand all about the pissed off part. I've been there too.

Where the rider completely loses the thread is where he puts himself on the left side of the vehicle with the center barrier on his left. If the driver had already risked the rider's life through idiocy or inattention, giving him a second better shot at it is idiocy as well.

 

[William Parcher]

I'll defer to your estimation. On H-D external features I'm no expert - Knuckles, Pans and Shovelhead motors and transmissions I'm a little more familiar with.

The Evo's on, not so much.

The taillight and turn signal arrangement is essentially the same on all big twin Harleys regardless of year. Turn signals (when they are there) are mounted horizontally at the same level as the main fender tail/brake light.

 

[John Jones]

Don't you have to stop if you've been involved in an accident in the USA?

Get off the road, and stop. Yes.

 

[luchog]

Apparently, the kid in the car actually nudged the biker before the video:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/06/22/motorcycle-kick-road-rage/

If the PV pulled pulled some stupid human trick I can understand all about the pissed off part. I've been there too.

Not a rider myself at the moment, but I've heard from friends who are that there are far too many PV drivers out there who seem to think it their life's purpose to make things as hard as possible for motorcycles of any sort. Up to and including running them off the road. I've seen plenty of near-misses involving motorcycles (and encountered more than a few myself in my PV) from jackass PV drivers who simply don't pay the slightest bit of attention to the traffic around them. The younger and/or more affluent, the worse they behave.

I can't really blame the rider for lashing out, but he did it in a profoundly stupid way.

 

[BStrong]

Not a rider myself at the moment, but I've heard from friends who are that there are far too many PV drivers out there who seem to think it their life's purpose to make things as hard as possible for motorcycles of any sort. Up to and including running them off the road. I've seen plenty of near-misses involving motorcycles (and encountered more than a few myself in my PV) from jackass PV drivers who simply don't pay the slightest bit of attention to the traffic around them. The younger and/or more affluent, the worse they behave.

I can't really blame the rider for lashing out, but he did it in a profoundly stupid way.

That's no understatement.

Running away from a potential threat makes sense when you can.

Giving a threat a second chance doesn't.

 

[Cleon]

My guys (sportriders) have been doing a pretty good job of it for many years now - no RICO/Continuing Criminal Enterprise charges but lots of bad behavior on the road. In some localities, a guy on a H-D might get the wave from a cop and the guy on a sportbike will be followed out of town, lest he pull a wheelie and put the future of the human race at risk.

Yeah, I know the guys you mean. 20-year-olds who get a high-powered bike and think that means they can go weaving in and out of traffic at 90 mph.

In my MC club we call them "squids" - because that's what their innards look like when they're splattered across the road.

 

[BStrong]

Yeah, I know the guys you mean. 20-year-olds who get a high-powered bike and think that means they can go weaving in and out of traffic at 90 mph.

In my MC club we call them "squids" - because that's what their innards look like when they're splattered across the road.

That's what we call 'em here, too.

I will say that in some interactions with LEO's who didn't know who they were pulling over (because they hadn't yet run my plate) I always loved the surprised look on their face to see a rider substantially older than themselves getting off whatever sportbikes I as riding at the time. It was also fun back in the day when Tower Records was still in business.

At he store I'd hit on the way home on a Sunday I'd park my bike directly in front of the entrance. On occasions there would be attractive young ladies in the front area who before I could get my helmet off would show a little interest in a tall guy getting off a sportbike.

Once the helmet would come off, excitement would run for the exit.

 

[William Parcher]

CHP is looking for the rider.

Highways sometimes have security cameras so he may have been photographed. Sometimes there are ways to know where he exited and where he went, again by looking at cameras.

Maybe.