Riots, looting, vandalism, etc.

[JoeMorgue]

People are obviously using a definition of "criminal" that is distinct and different from "person who commits crimes."

 

[Brainster]

Obviously I did. Andy Ngo is a threat to our community and provides kill lists for Atomwaffen.

What community is that?

 

[TurkeysGhost]

More from Washington DC last night.


Sen. Rand Paul, his wife and what appears to be two females with them were surrounded by a large mob freedom fighters who were screaming and cursing at them while pushing and shoving the police officers escorting his party.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299228578660327424?s=20


Brandon Straka, the openly gay founder of Walk Away, and members of his party are harassed, called the F-word (slur used against homosexuals)and one of them is physically attacked by three black women and a white guy freedom fighters as they walk to their hotel.
https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1299223473009631232?s=20


A group of elderly people are harassed by a large mob freedom fighters as they leave the White House complex.
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1299201927759134722?s=20


A random elderly white couple are harassed by screaming black masked morons freedom fighters as they walk back to their hotel.
https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1299225644631502848?s=20

The Rand Paul one is pretty funny because the bike cop tries to shove a protester, and nearly falls on his ass, bumping into Paul, when he gets shoved back.

 

[Bogative]

The Retard Brigade in Los Angeles flung a metal trash can lid and hit a LAPD officer in the back of the head/neck area, knocking him to the ground to which the crowd erupts in laughter and celebration.

I guess the officer should be thankful this group didn't start tarding out and throw feces at him like they do in Washington state.
https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1299232424698675200?s=20



Black Man Yelled ‘Black Lives Matter’ While Stabbing White Man; He’s Facing Hate Crime, Attempted Murder Charges

The Aurora Police Department arrested 30-year-old Steve Sinclair this week on hate crime and attempted murder charges after he allegedly yelled “black lives matter!” while stabbing a white man who was trying to run away from him.

“An arrest affidavit says Sinclair used a knife to stab 29-year-old Michael Conner who was transported to the hospital for his injuries and a collapsed lung,” 9News reported. “Conner, a white male, told police while at the hospital that Sinclair, a Black male, shouted ‘Black lives matter!’ prior to stabbing him.”

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Success: Since the National Guard moved into Kenosha, Wisconsin, two days ago, there has been NO FURTHER VIOLENCE, not even a small problem. When legally asked to help by local authorities, the Federal Government will act and quickly succeed. Are you listening Portland?

 

[thaiboxerken]

What community is that?

The human community.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Obviously I did. Andy Ngo is a threat to our community and provides kill lists for Atomwaffen.

That seems unlikely. It's also such an extreme claim that it merits a request for supporting evidence.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

That seems unlikely. It's also such an extreme claim that it merits a request for supporting evidence.

Decide for yourself

https://emilygorcenski.com/post/andy-ngo-and-the-atomwaffen-kill-list/

Journalists on Andy's kill lists have been targeted by Atomwaffen, which is now largely defunct.

Atomwaffen Division has today been mostly eradicated through infiltration, criminal charges, and general incompetence. But the threat they posed to journalists and activists just a few months ago was very real. In one case, the journalist who produced the ProPublica documentary was swatted by AWD members. Police showed up to his house, removed him and his wife and put them in separate patrol cars, while the journalist had to explain that he was the target of a neo-Nazi terror organization. In another case, in November 2018 (before the kill list was created), I was contacted by law enforcement agencies of both the US and Germany, who informed me that a pair of AWD members had traveled from the US to Europe and had intentions to do “grievous bodily harm” to me.

...

So what is the truth? Did Andy Ngô in fact provide kill lists for Atomwaffen? This depends on one’s interpretation. Through journalistic malpractice, Andy Ngô defamed several people and caused material harm through his lies—the harm being the AWD kill list created by one of his apparent fans—and not by directly handing AWD a list of people to kill. As far as whether Andy Ngô is a threat to our communities? Well, the reader can decide for themselves.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Decide for yourself

https://emilygorcenski.com/post/andy-ngo-and-the-atomwaffen-kill-list/

Journalists on Andy's kill lists have been targeted by Atomwaffen, which is now largely defunct.

That's an... interesting... attribution of accountability.

I'm going to go with "No, Andy Ngo did NOT provide kill lists to Atomwaffen".

This is guilty by three-steps removed association. Ngo didn't create any kill lists, nor did he provide information to Atomwaffen directly. By your own source, several of the journalists in question had been targeted by Atomwaffen for quite a while prior to Ngo commented on it, and before the actual producer of the analysis presented it in Quillette (which I know nothing of).

Andy Ngo didn't write the article, Eoin Lenihan did. Lenihan didn't provide any information about the journalists that wasn't already public. Someone else took that information and created a threatening video that included their names (something I very strongly disagree with).

If you want to argue that Lenihan provided ammunition to violent racist groups, I'm with you on that, 100%. But transforming that into "Andy gave a kill list to Atomwaffen" seems preposterous.

 

[Bogative]

Back to Minneapolis where we find an at-risk minority cruising around on an electric scooter when he happens upon an Asian American videographer as she is photographing police in what appears to be a downtown area.

The underprivileged minority unleashes a torrent of curse words and racial slurs directly at the Asian American woman. "******* Asian" and the C-word, not the four letter one, the one that rhymes with think.
https://twitter.com/MDVancleave/status/1299062525695324166?s=20

The racism is strong in this youngster.


Walgreens looted and set on fire.
https://twitter.com/MDVancleave/status/1298869032591020032?s=20


Local bar set on fire.
https://twitter.com/MDVancleave/status/1298843518207692801?s=20


Man trying to protect his business takes a beating.
https://twitter.com/MDVancleave/status/1298855676933017600?s=20


local convenience store looted.
https://twitter.com/MDVancleave/status/1298807378071166977?s=20

 

[Brainster]

If you want to argue that Lenihan provided ammunition to violent racist groups, I'm with you on that, 100%. But transforming that into "Andy gave a kill list to Atomwaffen" seems preposterous.

Note as well, the very precise phrasing, like a mantra:

Andy Ngo is a threat to our community and provides kill lists for Atomwaffen.

And we go to the linked website and what do we find?

There’s a meme that says that Andy Ngô is a threat to our communities and provides kill lists to Atomwaffen.

Virtually word for word (community/communities, for/to). Kinda creepy, if you ask me.

 

[Bogative]

Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyers have released a statement and a whole lot of assumptions and assertions made in this thread were completely wrong, of course.


Rittenhouse did not arm himself and transport a gun across state lines to go and kill BLM protesters.

Rittenhouse drove 20 miles from his home to work at a local swimming pool as a community lifeguard.

After work, he went to a local high school to help clean graffiti off of a wall.

After that, he went to help a local man protect what was left of his burned-out car dealership.

His attorneys are not saying exactly where he acquired the AR 15 other than that it was already in Wisconsin.

There are many more details in the article explaining what led up to the shooting.

Link


In all of the videos I've seen, Rittenhouse has a strap over his shoulder with a medical kit attached.

Here is a video of him offering medical assistance to a woman who had been struck in the foot with a projectile.
Link

According to his lawyers, he was recognized as a person who protected a local business, that made the mob freedom fighters angry enough to chase him away from the gas station and that's what led to the shooting.

 

[Puppycow]

 

[CaptainHowdy]

Curious when people are going to turn on Ngo. He's been doing a lot of outright content theft, including from other right wing reporter types. He rarely gets his own ass out in the streets these days, much easier to just poach other people's videos and steal all the attention.

The most pathetic thing about Ngo might be the fake British (sorta) accent that he pretends to have.

I think the way he squints his eyes to make himself look like he's not the White supremacist nazi that he really is is more pathetic than his fake British accent. But the fake accent is strange considering he chose a fake name from a former French colony. I guess a British accent is easier for an American White Boy to emulate than a French accent.

 

[Puppycow]

I think the way he squints his eyes to make himself look like he's not the White supremacist nazi that he really is is more pathetic than his fake British accent. But the fake accent is strange considering he chose a fake name from a former French colony. I guess a British accent is easier for an American White Boy to emulate than a French accent.

Fail.

 

[Thermal]

Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyers have released a statement and a whole lot of assumptions and assertions made in this thread were completely wrong, of course.


Rittenhouse did not arm himself and transport a gun across state lines to go and kill BLM protesters.

Rittenhouse drove 20 miles from his home to work at a local swimming pool as a community lifeguard.

After work, he went to a local high school to help clean graffiti off of a wall.
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After that, he went to help a local man protect what was left of his burned-out car dealership.

His attorneys are not saying exactly where he acquired the AR 15 other than that it was already in Wisconsin.

There are many more details in the article explaining what led up to the shooting.

Link


In all of the videos I've seen, Rittenhouse has a strap over his shoulder with a medical kit attached.

Here is a video of him offering medical assistance to a woman who had been struck in the foot with a projectile.
Link

According to his lawyers, he was recognized as a person who protected a local business, that made the mob freedom fighters angry enough to chase him away from the gas station and that's what led to the shooting.

Those lawyers suck. They said point blank Rittenhouse turned and fired into a crowd. This kid is going down hard. Hope he had fun playing cowboy, and that it was worth it. He marched a rifle into the streets and indiscriminately took human lives. Sometimes, it just doesn't matter if you were a lifeguard after school, if you were a murderer that night.

 

[Ziggurat]

Those lawyers suck. They said point blank Rittenhouse turned and fired into a crowd.

They said he shot his attackers. If true, then the fact that they were in a crowd may not be important.

This kid is going down hard. Hope he had fun playing cowboy, and that it was worth it. He marched a rifle into the streets and indiscriminately took human lives.

If the people he shot were attacking him, either he got incredibly lucky or he wasn’t actually shooting indiscriminately. Is it your position that the people he shot were not trying to attack him? Or do you think he fired indiscriminately but just got incredibly lucky in only hitting people attacking him?

 

[rdwight]

These kinds of incidents seem to lead to entrenched opinions. None of the details really matter. He was there with a gun for a stupid reason. Anything that happened after is a consequence of that. That's not my opinion here but I've had similar unmovable positions before and know a brick wall when i see it.

 

[Thermal]

They said he shot his attackers. If true, then the fact that they were in a crowd may not be important.



If the people he shot were attacking him, either he got incredibly lucky or he wasn’t actually shooting indiscriminately. Is it your position that the people he shot were not trying to attack him? Or do you think he fired indiscriminately but just got incredibly lucky in only hitting people attacking him?

When you consider 'The Mob' to be your 'attacker', you really can't miss, can you? Quite the Texas sharpshooter.

 

[Brainster]

NPR finds someone to defend the indefensible:

Looting strikes at the heart of property, of whiteness and of the police. It gets to the very root of the way those three things are interconnected. And also it provides people with an imaginative sense of freedom and pleasure and helps them imagine a world that could be. And I think that's a part of it that doesn't really get talked about—that riots and looting are experienced as sort of joyous and liberatory.

I'm sure it's a gas, as long as you're a looter and not a lootee. But not to worry, nobody is really harmed by looting:

Most stores are insured; it's just hurting insurance companies on some level. It's just money. It's just property. It's not actually hurting any people.

That argument is juvenile, and I know it's juvenile because it's nearly the exact argument I used to justify shoplifting when I was a kid. I wasn't stealing from people, I was stealing from a store. And stores build shoplifting costs into their prices, so if I don't shoplift occasionally I'd be giving them more of a profit than they deserved. Or something.

And by the way, the looters seem to have an innate sense of social justice:

But looters and rioters don't attack private homes. They don't attack community centers. In Minneapolis, there was a small independent bookstore that was untouched. All the blocks around it were basically looted or even leveled, burned down. And that store just remained untouched through weeks of rioting.

Or maybe the looters weren't interested in books? And that bookstore owner might find that being the only property around that wasn't leveled is detrimental to customer foot-traffic. But not to worry, he's probably got insurance for that.

And I couldn't resist this ludicrous attempt at debunking a "right-wing myth."

It's actually a Republican myth that has, over the last 20 years, really crawled into even leftist discourse: that the small business owner must be respected, that the small business owner creates jobs and is part of the community. But that's actually a right-wing myth.

The link under "right-wing myth" goes to this article, which starts out talking about an economics paper that claimed that 80% of new jobs were created by small businesses:

In attempting to replicate Birch’s work, the economist Catherine Armington found that from 1976 to 1982, small firms were responsible for 56 percent of new jobs, a far cry from over 80 percent and much closer to their actual share of total jobs. Other studies found less compelling or even contradictory results. A study in 2010 found that large firms more than a decade old with more than 500 workers employed 45 percent of private-sector workers and accounted for 40 percent of job creation.

Now get this, the paper acknowledges that over half of new jobs are created by small firms. This is debunking the "myth" that the small business owner creates jobs?

BTW, if you see Vicky Osterweil's car parked somewhere, feel free to loot it. I'm sure you'll find the experience joyous and liberatory (sic).