Riots, looting, vandalism, etc.

Wanted to correct my previous post about Kenosha. Jacob Blake is alive and in stable condition in the ICU after being shot 7 times in the back by the police. Earlier reports of his death were incorrect.

Wisconsin state DOJ is investigating the shooting.
 
I can imagine why the Kenosha police would be a little on edge in a situation like this. It was only two weeks ago one of their officers was shot in the abdomen because a piece of human debris decided that laws don't apply to him.

The POS tried to kill a cop instead of allowing himself to be arrested for breaking into other people's cars to steal their property.



Also, allowing someone to reach into their vehicle after a struggle with law enforcement could never go wrong for the police. It's pure paranoia on the part of the officers that someone may retrieve a gun and shoot them with it:
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
The 1st amendment still works after sundown.
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Just as long as you’re not into camping.

Governor Signs Bill Penalizing Some Protesters by Kelly Mena

Tennessee Governor Bill Lee signed legislation on Thursday that will
increase penalties for individuals caught camping on state property.
Bill HB 8005 increases the punishment for camping on state property
from a misdemeanor to a class E felony that is punishable by up to six
years in prison. Signing of the bill comes as protesters have been camping
outside the Tennessee Capitol in Nashville, demanding a meeting with the
Republican governor to discuss racial inequality and police brutality since
June, according to the Washington Post. Protesters are also asking for
the removal of a Nathan Bedford Forrest bust at the State Capitol.
Forrest was a slave trader and early Ku Klux Klan leader.
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Riots overnight in Kenosha Wisconsin after video spreads showing local police killing Jacob Blake. Jacob was shot 7 times in the back by a cop holding his shirt while trying to climb into his truck. He was being treated in the ICU and it remains to be seen if he will survive.

Riots sprang up quickly as the video spreads. One cop was knocked unconscious by a thrown brick, and reports of small fires.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/23/kenosha-police-shooting-video-wisconsin/

The people aren't going to lay down to the cops anymore. Give them hell Kenosha!

ETA: pig gets bricked video. You love to see it. https://twitter.com/BotchlaUS/status/1297727292324683776?s=19
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Depends on what gets ruined, in my opinion. Small Business? Cut that out, leave them alone. Walmart or Target. Meh. Cop car gets burned? Well, if the cops keep demanding a war keep demanding a war, bring them one.

Proud Boys? Just another street gang, complete with violent initiations. Wouldn't be shocked if they eventually went into running drugs, guns, and sex slaves. Cops should spend more time crushing these sorts of lunatics - especially since they also want to kill cops - instead of screaming that they don't get "respect" after wearing "I Can Breathe" t-shirts on the day Eric Garner is buried, running around screaming and waving guns at random people, and so forth.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
It did sound like those were the angles Delphic Oracle were focusing on, yes. Not showing protesters at their own protest is insulting, it tells them that they're not the most important part of the event, and even worse, it tells the world that the protesters aren't the most important part of the event. They ARE the event. Anything else is periphery.....but it's splashy and gory and makes good pictures.

It attracts the kind of people who'll reach for their camera to snap a few shots of a girl dragging herself out of earthquake rubble, still with legs buried, instead of helping her out.
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Mumbles said:
This is how I took the post as well. But s/he has clarified in that last post, so...eh, time to move on.
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I took it as D.O. complaining that those are the kinds of headlines they don't like, but which sell... and lamenting that there's no market for reporting that doesn't sensationalize and drive outrage.
 
Bogative said:
I can imagine why the Kenosha police would be a little on edge in a situation like this. It was only two weeks ago one of their officers was shot in the abdomen because a piece of human debris decided that laws don't apply to him.

The POS tried to kill a cop instead of allowing himself to be arrested for breaking into other people's cars to steal their property.
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I can imagine why Kenosha residents would be a little on edge after a situation like this. It was only recently that one of their co-residents was shot 7 times in the back because a piece of human debris decided that laws don't apply to him. The POS tried to kill a resident instead of doing his job.

So yeah, I guess if residents now start shooting cops that would be justified because they're a little on edge. Thanks for this argument, usually people disapprove of residents shooting cops after incidents like this.
 
Emily's Cat said:
That would be my guess. But there are probably others as well.

Given the amount of social engineering that we already know happened in the last election cycle, I find it a bit concerning that we're not stepping back and asking whether or not we're being manipulated this time as well.
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Premise 1: Cops murder some random black guy in the US
Premise 2: People protest.
Conclusion: It's a Chinese conspiracy.:rolleyes:
 
Emily's Cat said:
That would be my guess. But there are probably others as well.

Given the amount of social engineering that we already know happened in the last election cycle, I find it a bit concerning that we're not stepping back and asking whether or not we're being manipulated this time as well.
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My inner CT'ist lays it at Russias' door.
Their initial reported incursions into US social media manipulation focused on race divisions.
It has long been obvious that sowing that divisiveness was Americas "Achilles heel".

https://racism.org/articles/law-and-justice/6712-russian-election-interference
 
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Premise 1: Cops murder some random black guy in the US
Premise 2: People protest.
Conclusion: It's a Chinese conspiracy.:rolleyes:
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It's only going to get worse if Biden wins the election. Racist cops will continue to murder or brutalize people and there will be protests and riots in response, meanwhile brain-poisoned libs are going to say it's Russia or China or some other conspiracy. I fully expect #Resistance libs to start accusing street demonstrators as being puppets of Putin or MAGA instigators before all of this is over.

The problems of violent and racist cops is a 100% homegrown, American problem. Anyone looking abroad for the causes of the recent unrest is fooling themselves.
 
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Emily's Cat said:
I suspect it helps someone. The question I think we should be asking ourselves is: Who benefits from civil unrest in the US? Who stands to gain by fomenting civil war?
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Ziggurat said:
China.
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Emily's Cat said:
That would be my guess. But there are probably others as well.

Given the amount of social engineering that we already know happened in the last election cycle, I find it a bit concerning that we're not stepping back and asking whether or not we're being manipulated this time as well.
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Distracted1 said:
My inner CT'ist lays it at Russias' door.
Their initial reported incursions into US social media manipulation focused on race divisions.
It has long been obvious that sowing that divisiveness was Americas "Achilles heel".

https://racism.org/articles/law-and-justice/6712-russian-election-interference
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I’m confused about the underlying apparatus of this conspiracy theory.

Did China or Russia have Derek Chauvin murder George Floyd?
 
The world is a complicated, interconnected place and no action happens in a vacuum. I'm sure shady forces have their fingers (or at least looking for a place to put their fingers) in all manner of things on the off chance it could lead to the destabilization of the United States.

It's not a conspiracy to just assume our enemies are keeping an eye on all major social-political divides in America and deciding how to use it to their advantage.

But in the moment no force is making the white cop put 134 warning shots into the back of the unarmed black person who wasn't doing anything.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The world is a complicated, interconnected place and no action happens in a vacuum. I'm sure shady forces have their fingers (or at least looking for a place to put their fingers) in all manner of things on the off chance it could lead to the destabilization of the United States.

It's not a conspiracy to just assume our enemies are keeping an eye on all major social-political divides in America and deciding how to use it to their advantage.

But in the moment no force is making the white cop put 134 warning shots into the back of the unarmed black person who wasn't doing anything.
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Sure, the raging, unchecked dumpster fire of racism in this country is something our enemies (and allies, and probably even some of the smarter animal species) obviously notice.

This isn't really worth pointing out though, as the issue is entirely a domestic problem rooted in our own history and failed policies.
 
It seems to me that an administration interested in counteracting whatever foreign influences are alleged to be at play would enact policies to quell the social unrest instead of inflaming it.
 
johnny karate said:
I’m confused about the underlying apparatus of this conspiracy theory.

Did China or Russia have Derek Chauvin murder George Floyd?
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Hold up a second. The question that was asked was who benefits. It wasn't who's behind it. There's a difference. The fact that China benefits is really hard to dispute, and is independent of their actions or involvement. I don't think there's any serious doubt that China benefits. Almost anything that hurts us helps them.

It's a separate question, one which was not asked and I did not previously address, whether or not they are involved. But the fact that they have motive should certainly give one pause to consider the possibility. As to the apparatus, there are lots of channels available to do so (for example, facebook groups and ads, etc). They need not have murdered anyone in order to help amplify and radicalize the response to those events. And in fact, the CCP's public response to the death of George Floyd is a textbook example of communist propaganda efforts to paint the US as irredeemably racist (which is ironic given their own racism). Now, even if China is surreptitiously encouraging unrest, that wouldn't mean that there would be none absent China. But given that they have the motive, and the means to encourage unrest are within reach of any state actor, it would be foolish to simply dismiss the possibility.

I will also note that China is a primary source of fentanyl, which is causing serious drug abuse problems here in the US and was involved in the death of George Floyd. So no, actually, China doesn't have their hands clean in his death.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Sure, the raging, unchecked dumpster fire of racism in this country is something our enemies (and allies, and probably even some of the smarter animal species) obviously notice.

This isn't really worth pointing out though, as the issue is entirely a domestic problem rooted in our own history and failed policies.
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Yeah, it's just a complete coincidence that Black Lives Matter was founded by trained Marxists.
 
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