Merged Rep. Giffords Shot In Tucson

[Biscuit]

Yeah, lots of people with guns is terrifying. Lots of really qualified people with guns, not as much.

Guns are dangerous no matter what. Anyone who says different is an idiot. Having some control over who carries concealed is a bit of relief.

New update from police command via my friend

Suspect is a 22 year old white male. Gerald or Jared something

 

[TraneWreck]

And it's not helping the situation.

Nor is it hurting. We're poeple disconnected from the event on a message board talking about an on-going event.

 

[MattusMaximus]

A Federal Judge, John Roll is confirmed dead by Fox News.

Wow... this just sucks.

 

[Malerin]

Suspect's name: Jared Laughner (sp)

Probably not a Muslim.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Shooter: Jared Laughner
US citizen

The Google hunt is ongoing on the guy.

‎
noboa‎ There's no listed FB or MySpace activity by gunman Jared Laughner, but still digging

 

[BenBurch]

Gifford better survive. That's all I will say.

Another confirmation she is dead just heard.

 

[Drudgewire]

A Federal Judge, John Roll is confirmed dead by Fox News.

Are they having to backpeddle again? I'm seeing "wounded" on their channel right now.

 

[Piscivore]

Doesn't Arizona have an open carry policy as well? I seem to recall that a citizen could carry a pistol in a holster strapped to your leg if you so desired, but that could have been urban legend lore in the biker community...

No, that's true, with some restrictions.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Some reports that fire was returned, but get ready for the inevitable, "if only everyone in that crowd had a gun, this wouldn't have happened.'

Yep. If there were a couple of Second Amendment Superheroes in the crowd, then only 1-2 people would have been shot. By the gunman. Of course, 160 or so would have been shot and 50 or so killed from all the bullets flying around.

 

[suds101]

I wonder if he was an "activist judge", who frequently attempted to "legislate from the bench".

According to Fox News he was appointed by President Bush. Unlike you, I am not going to further speculate.

 

[MattusMaximus]

And which direction is that? I've seen this useless speculation go every which direction - people on the left are blaming Tea-Partiers, people on the right are blaming Muslims & immigrants. Hell, I've even seen others speculate that this is a conspiracy by "leftists" to push through tougher gun laws, while others are ranting that it is a "right wing conspiracy" to terrorize the federal government. Everyone is speculating in the absence of facts.

And what's the problem? It won't affect anything.

No offense, but one would have to be a complete moron to believe that in this political environment.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

No kidding. Folks, how about we all just take a deep breath and wait for some actual facts to come to light about the shooting & the shooter, etc? I have already heard liberals ranting about how "this must have been a Tea Party nut" and I've already heard conservatives scream about how "the shooter was an illegal immigrant". Conspiracy theories are being spun faster than you can say "9/11 coverup"

Especially in this politically charged environment, the last thing we need to go doing right now is jumping to conclusions, pointing fingers at "the other side", and basically engaging in rampant & irresponsible confirmation bias. From what I've seen on this thread so far, there are way too many so-called skeptics displaying blatant irrationality in this regard - you should be better than that.

Let the authorities do their jobs. Until then, everyone just chill the **** out.

ETA: This article, about 10 minutes old, seems to contain the most updated info as of this point.

If we waited for all the facts on this forum, we'd never have any threads.

 

[TraneWreck]

Hospital is holding a news conference.

 

[BenBurch]

Are they having to backpeddle again? I'm seeing "wounded" on their channel right now.

Serious "Fog Of War"

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

New report from police command via my friend saying the shooter was an afghan veteran.

That certainly confuses things. If true, does that place the blame on the left or the right?

 

[Biscuit]

Another confirmation she is dead just heard.

She is not deceased! Critical head injury!

 

[TraneWreck]

No offense, but one would have to be a complete moron to believe that in this political environment.

I guess I'm a moron then. I can't imagine the words I've typed in this thread will have any effect at all.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 <- the shooters youtube.

 

[Drudgewire]

If we waited for all the facts on this forum, we'd never have any threads.

Yeah, that's pretty much the entire non-porn internet in a nutshell.

 

[Travis]

I find it disheartening how the first thing people wanted to do was know about Republican or Democratic affiliation of victim and suspect.