mhaze
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so the deniosphere wakes up to asymmetrical response, energy transforms and flows and now thinks ENSO et al are the primary driver...is C02 a driver?
No, scientists whom you disparage study, and attempt to quantify these energy flux. From the 3rd reference:
In addition to the correlation with strange global effects that some scientists suspect were caused by climate shifts, the team says their data shows the oceans are not continuously warming—a conclusion not consistent with the idea that the oceans may be harboring "warming in the pipeline." Douglass further notes that the team found no correlation between the shifts and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration.
Through such efforts the end goal is some level of ability to predict climate. Which Tsonis in the first link did, apparently. Douglass in the third addresses the same topic:
Why is it that recent climate observations disagree with predictions?




