Racial segregation is legal in the U.S?

[L.Y.S.]

This thread reminds me of why I don't regret skipping my prom.

Agreed

 

[triforcharity]

I have no data, but such speculation is similar to my own.


My son recently moved to Manchester. I'll ask him if he ever gets out of the sack with his gorgeous wife.

I bet he doesn't, especially during the winter!! It's as cold as my MIL's soul during the winter there.....

 

[triforcharity]

Maybe they've learned about contraception thanks to sex-ed ?

There's a sex-ed program in the southern states also, though it could be more "conservative" than northern states, which would again be my speculation.

 

[CORed]

Yes, it does. I agree that the school can't do anything. I'm just shocked, and a little dismayed, that the town, state, and nation, haven't seen fit to introduce legislation to outlaw this primitive practice. I doubt this is a one-off.

In the US, it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race in employment, housing, or "public accommodations", where "public accommodations" encompasses restaurants, hotels, stores or other businesses that are generally open to the public. It's not illegal to hold a private party and not invite any non-white people, which is essentially what the "whites only" prom is. While I think the people holding and attending the event are jerks, I'm not to keen on the idea of trying to legislate against it.

 

[WildCat]

Maybe they've learned about contraception thanks to sex-ed ?

A woman doesn't have 5 kids by the age of 21 because she doesn't know how babies are made. They do it on purpose, there's a good chunk of the underclass who thinks it's great to have lots of kids very young. Like this guy who has 10 kids and he's just 21.



This guy knows how babies are made, and he's not interested in preventing it. No amount of sex ed fixes that.

 

[RemieV]

I often wonder about the contraception thing. As I said, I lived in Texas for the first 26 years of my life. I don't recall anyone not KNOWING what condoms were, no matter what we were taught in schools. I did, however, notice two other things - 1, that guys complain a lot about condoms. A whole lot in a pressurey way. Don't know whether or not that's universal. And 2, that having a bunch of condoms on you all the time isn't nice. What I'm saying is - I'm not sure that what's actually changing the stats is sex ed so much as a general attitude towards sex and condoms.

 

[torifrog]

1931, an extremely racist time in Australia, at the height of the White Australia Policy. What you saw in the film was part of what is now termed the Stolen Generations, under which various government policies Indigenous* children, especially those of mixed Anglo-Aboriginal heritage, were systematically removed to White run church missions and government orphanages. This occurred between roughly 1910 and 1970. Numbers of children taken in such acts are hard to get proper figures on, but it was somewhere between 20,000 and 100,000 children.

The film, incidentally, was sadly mostly factual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow_the_Rabbit-Proof_Fence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._O._Neville



*I use Indigenous rather than Aboriginal because in addition to Aboriginal Australians there is also a second group of Australians who predate English inhabitation of Australia, and they are the Torres Strait Islanders, who belong rather to the Melanesian ethnic group.

I just want to add to what Damien has said, that indigenous peoples here (Australia) can "have the black bred out of them"; they are different from our African-Australian citizens because our indigenous peoples' colour is NOT connected with a specific chromosome/DNA - so we don't have the "throwbacks" which occasionally occur in "pure" black peoples' descendants, even when they appear white.

My language is all wrong, I know .. I am influenced by my acceptance into Aboriginal communities here, where open language is okay "cos I'm one of them", so I apologise if I have stepped on any toes here, as that is certainly not my intent. My intent was to show that this particular fact was part of the rationale behind the shameful Stolen Generation/s - and is still shown in the daily fights and prejudices indigenous people fight here.

 

[torifrog]

"a guest list provided to the place the dance was being held. Of course only white kids were on the list. Unknown if it was called a school function; no reason why it should have been.

What does Aus do then?"

In regard to WHAT, specifically?

You've already been given answers about what we do in regard to school dances and how they differ in sponsorship and legality from US "private proms" - so what are you specifically asking?

 

[Travis]

I often wonder about the contraception thing. As I said, I lived in Texas for the first 26 years of my life. I don't recall anyone not KNOWING what condoms were, no matter what we were taught in schools. I did, however, notice two other things - 1, that guys complain a lot about condoms. A whole lot in a pressurey way. Don't know whether or not that's universal. And 2, that having a bunch of condoms on you all the time isn't nice. What I'm saying is - I'm not sure that what's actually changing the stats is sex ed so much as a general attitude towards sex and condoms.

Basically I think this is true. A culture that empowers women to insist on condoms is key in preventing unwanted pregnancies.

 

[3point14]

For some reason the US style 'Prom' has started to become popular over here. Shops have sprung up selling 'Prom Dresses' and all the Taxi companies all own a cheezy 'stretched' Limo and horse drawn carriages usualy used for weddings seem to get an outing at these events.

It's become a status thing overnight. Our local school had two girls turning up to the event in a helicopter for effs sake!

They aren't organised by the school, they are held at Guisborough Hall (now a hotel) and are organised by parents.

(that is the local one is at Guisborough Hall, not all the Proms in the country you understand )

I have noted that too. There is no better way to ensure that every child knows their place in society than a US style prom.

 

[newyorkguy]

There is no better way to ensure that every child knows their place in society than a US style prom.

Very sad statement to make. Also absolutely true.

 

[MaGZ]

And most proms are integrated. And Wilcox county's will be, too, now that students are taking the initiative, because segregation is just not acceptable anymore. However, when I looked into this in the past (a couple of decades ago) the segregated proms were purely private functions. They were invitation only, and the invitations were sent to white seniors. The schools had nothing to do with them. Even businesses, like ballrooms where these proms were held, had to be careful. They were not "whites only" events, because such discrimination would be illegal for a business. However, they could be "invitation only" events, and in that case it isn't the job of the business to ensure that their customers, the party organizers, invited black people. In some cases, schools did in fact hold an "official" prom. It was open to all, and only blacks went to it.

These are unusual cases, even in the south. In most cases, school proms and other dances were integrated when the schools were, and it was all normal, but in some places, some folks just didn't agree to that.

It's a little bit harder now for schools who wish to discriminate against gay students. It's not so easy to send invitations just to the straight kids.

I find this funny especially when I see you live in the Detroit suburbs.