Questions Truthers can't answer

[eeyore1954]

As this thread demonstrates for the most part there are no questions truthers cannot answer. Their answers are almost always incorrect but they always have one. I have seen them argue the most untenable positions (like Jamonious or the WTc was a mostly empty white elephant on 9/11) and still firmly believe they are correct no matter what facts they are presented with.

 

[cyclonic]

I read somewhere that there were no visible fires coming out of WTC 2 after about 9:40. Since I didn't have time to check out the claim, I thought I'd post it here to see if anyone could debunk it. Looks like that may have happened on that specific factoid. That's why I come here, you know, I have no interest in converting anyone here, your minds are already made up.

That said, it still clear the fires were diminishing in WTC 2 after 9:40.

I will comment officially on your photos after my photographic experts Jim Fetzer and Ace Baker certify that they aren't fakes.

"my photographic experts Jim Fetzer and Ace Baker" that is really pathetic.

ask them to debunk this video.

 

[~enigma~]

I would check the Terror Timeline.

Seems besides being delusional so you think your a historical figure, you don't even know the terror timeline. Here is what it says on the matter...

The Commission will say that Satam Al Suqami did not obtain any ID document in the US, which is why he had to take his passport on his final flight. The passport was found shortly after the plane he was traveling on hit the WTC

ETA - Doesn't that mean all the no planer idiots are calling Paul Thompson part of the coverup?

 

[~enigma~]

You just love the smell of anti-semitism in the morning.

Maybe now would be an opportunity to remind him and all our resident anti-semites..

 

[cyclonic]

Maybe now would be an opportunity to remind him and all our resident anti-semites..

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And don't think you will be safe in space either!



In space no one will hear you whine.

 

[The Big Dog]

I will comment officially on your photos after my photographic experts Jim Fetzer and Ace Baker certify that they aren't fakes.

i stopped reading the thread here, where Galileo essentially admitted he was a troll.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

The one thing the truth movement has never produced is evidence of remnants of explosives used. Why were no remnants found during clean up? No blast caps, no undetonated devices? Not one person in the truth movement has provided that. Their evidence is hinged on circumstantial evidence which can be explained away by many other events that could be expected of an event like 9/11. Would it not be the holy grail if they found physical remains of incendiary or explosive devices?

Surely granted all of the 'lengths' that the movement leaders have gone to in the last 7 years this should be reasonably easy to produce, I mean they claim that the evidence they have is 'empirical', wouldn't physical remains blow the case apart? Why haven't they given it then?

 

[Mobyseven]

The rest of the world already thinks its an inside job, according to the polls.

Speaking as a representative for the land of the concrete camel: Wrong.

 

[Alt+F4]

The one thing the truth movement has never produced is evidence of remnants of explosives used.

They can't even decide if it was explosives or an incendiary or both.

 

[1337m4n]

The Scholars for 9/11 Truth, the Scholars for 9/11 truth and Justice, the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and the Pilots for 9/11 Truth, all investigative bodies, have all determined that 9/11 was an inside job.

You yourself said this:

If you know your Heisenberg, you'll also know that two contradictory statements can both be true at the same time.

Now, see, all of the organizations you mentioned have contradictory ideas about what happened on 9/11. For instance, Pilots for 9/11 Truth believe that Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon, while Scholars believe that it hit. They cannot both be right, can they? So ALL of these organizations cannot know the truth.

Which organization do you think is correct regarding 9/11?

 

[1337m4n]

The explosives were that were inside the core columns (the core columns next to the elevator shafts) were in a position to be safe from fire, and underneath the fireproofing.

Other explosives were wrapped in jet fuel tight & fire retardent baggie wraps.

The seismic record disagrees with you. Protec was monitoring the area with seismographs the entire time. They picked up the aircraft impacts...and the collapse itself...but no explosives. Wonder why?

 

[jhunter1163]

And its not illegal if the president says you can do it.

I imagine some of the Watergate figures who went to prison would beg to differ on this point.

 

[twinstead]

Wrapped in jet fuel tight & fire retardant baggie wraps???

 

[jhunter1163]

Wouldn't "Fire Retardant Baggie Wraps" be a great name for a band?

 

[1337m4n]

Questions Truthers can't answer:

What evidence would it take to get you to admit that you are wrong about 9/11?

 

[Tomblvd]

They can't even decide if it was explosives or an incendiary or both.

Since he's talking Heisenberg (out of his a$$, I might add), we might as well introduce Schrödinger's cat to the mix. Except now we can rename it "Schrödinger's bomb". In the box (i.e. the towers), the bomb can exist as either a explosive or incendiary device, and only when a truther thinks of it (so to speak) does it become either or.

The great thing about that every time they discuss the bomb, the uncertainty reemerges. So they never contradict themselves!

 

[~enigma~]

Since he's talking Heisenberg (out of his a$$, I might add), we might as well introduce Schrödinger's cat to the mix. Except now we can rename it "Schrödinger's bomb". In the box (i.e. the towers), the bomb can exist as either a explosive or incendiary device, and only when a truther thinks of it (so to speak) does it become either or.

The great thing about that every time they discuss the bomb, the uncertainty reemerges. So they never contradict themselves!

 

[AZCat]

I imagine some of the Watergate figures who went to prison would beg to differ on this point.

IIRC this was a valid defense used by the burglars in the Watergate scandal. Someone else might have better information.

 

[RedIbis]

You yourself said this:



Now, see, all of the organizations you mentioned have contradictory ideas about what happened on 9/11. For instance, Pilots for 9/11 Truth believe that Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon, while Scholars believe that it hit. They cannot both be right, can they? So ALL of these organizations cannot know the truth.

Which organization do you think is correct regarding 9/11?

You're confusing the difference between tactics and strategy. Both groups can be correct that 9/11 was part of a strategy to initiate long term foreign policy objectives by a self inflicted wound. They might disagree on what tactics were used to achieve that goal.

 

[Thunder]

thats right. there are many questions truthers cant answer. thats why we need a new investigation!!!!

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