Questions about Hyperinsulinemia/Diabetes

[Kumar]

Remember what Hans told you about leaving out words that don't suit you? Read the article again.

Anyway, to get back on topic:

Stepney Green.

??. Sorry, Above my head to understand your post.

 

[Mojo]

??. Sorry, Above my head to understand your post.

1) The article talks about small vessel muscle tone and arterial muscle tone. You're misinterpreting what the article actually says by ignoring the words "small vessel" and "arterial."

2) What's so difficult to understand in "read the article again?" Just read the bit you quoted, and try to relate what it says to the question you asked.

3) If you can't understand why my next move after Trinity played Maida Vale (under Jakarta Rules and with Hans in the baggage locker) had to be Stepney Green there's really no hope for you.

Edited for grammar.

 

[MRC_Hans]

OK; I can't wait forever for the rest to draw:

Bond street (retaining key).

Hans

 

[Kumar]

1) The article talks about small vessel muscle tone and arterial muscle tone. You're misinterpreting what the article actually says by ignoring the words "small vessel" and "arterial."
2) What's so difficult to understand in "read the article again?" Just read the bit you quoted, and try to relate what it says to the question you asked.

Can't this effect as I thought--directly or indirectly?

3) If you can't understand why my next move after Trinity played Maida Vale (under Jakarta Rules and with Hans in the baggage locker) had to be Stepney Green there's really no hope for you.

Edited for grammar.

Whatever you think, it is still above my head.

 

[Rolfe]

Goldhawk Road.

Rolfe.

 

[Mojo]

Can't this effect as I thought--directly or indirectly?

What do you mean? The article you linked to, and that you were therefore presumably asking questions about, mentioned an effect on muscle tone in blood vessels. You then tried to extrapolate this to other types of muscle. If you want your suggestion taken seriously, go and find some evidence supporting it. Don't expect other people to do your homework for you.

 

[Kumar]

What do you mean? The article you linked to, and that you were therefore presumably asking questions about, mentioned an effect on muscle tone in blood vessels. You then tried to extrapolate this to other types of muscle. If you want your suggestion taken seriously, go and find some evidence supporting it. Don't expect other people to do your homework for you.

Why homework for you? You know, so can directly explain. Don't we have blood vessels everywhere? Can't this show effects in various parts of body? Blood vessels may also be made up of muscles.

 

[Kumar]

Goldhawk Road.

Rolfe.

If for me, ?? above my head.

 

[Mojo]

Don't we have blood vessels everywhere? Can't this show effects in various parts of body? Blood vessels may also be made up of muscles.

Yes, they have muscles in them. The article you quoted specifically mentioned the effect of insulin on the muscles in blood vessels, remember? I assume you read it.

 

[Kumar]

Yes, they have muscles in them. The article you quoted specifically mentioned the effect of insulin on the muscles in blood vessels, remember? I assume you read it.

It is there, but what about its effect on tone of other muscles?

Common Causes
..there are several possible sources of low back pain:

Small fractures to the spine from osteoporosis
Muscle spasm (very tense muscles that remain contracted)
.....
Low back pain from any cause usually involves spasms of the large, supportive muscles alongside the spine. The muscle spasm and stiffness accompanying back pain can feel particularly uncomfortable.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003108.htm

Can insulin be the cause of above Muscle spasm? or

Can Insulin's Actions on cellular and metabolic level (As given in following link) cause above muscle spasm or not due to its deficiency or excesses?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin

 

[Mojo]

It is there, but what about its effect on tone of other muscles? Can insulin be the cause of above Muscle spasm?

Not if it has the same effect on back muscles as it does on arterial muscles:

From the article you quoted
The actions of insulin on cells include:

...

arterial muscle tone – forces arterial wall muscle to relax, increasing blood flow, especially in micro arteries; lack of insulin reduces flow by allowing these muscles to contract

 

[Kumar]

Not if it has the same effect on back muscles as it does on arterial muscles:

What about by increased/changed blood flow due to insulin levels?

 

[Mojo]

What about by increased/changed blood flow due to insulin levels?

Would that cause back pain?

 

[Kumar]

Would that cause back pain?

Usually, spasms prey on the muscles in the lower back, rather than the upper regions of the torso.The origins of back spasms are diverse, but it is clear that they are often a response to an injury or inflammation of the spinal region.

Can't it be somewhat inflamatory effect--increase in blood flow? Can't imbalanced insulin levels in low back muscle cause hyper or hypo utilization of energy by muscle cells resulting into changes in this muscle's tones?

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

TIME OUT!!

I've just found a very old Student Railcard, which although I had not meant it at the time, requires that each of my off-peak moves counts double.

I'm sorry about this and it's going to entail a lot of recalculating for everyone, but I really can't ignore it.

I think that takes me to;

Snaresbrook

Just the law of unintended consequences, I suppose. Fortunately, I threw a 5 and a 3 so the effect was mitigated.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Can't it be somewhat inflamatory effect--increase in blood flow? Can't imbalanced insulin levels in low back muscle cause hyper or hypo utilization of energy by muscle cells resulting into changes in this muscle's tones?

Sorry, K, didn't see you standing there. Now, what's the point of all this? I think I've lost track of the rules of your strand of this thread.

 

[flume]

Can't imbalanced insulin levels in low back muscle cause hyper or hypo utilization of energy by muscle cells resulting into changes in this muscle's tones?

I don't think so. Muscle contraction is not controlled by energy levels. (If you're worried about your electrolytes, maybe you should check with your doctor and get a blood test.)

Lucky for me, I've come on board recently enough that I don't have to recalculate based on BSM's new information. But I'll have to wait to see if any other players need to make changes - in particular Mojo's move to Stepney Green seems iffy.

 

[Mojo]

But I'll have to wait to see if any other players need to make changes - in particular Mojo's move to Stepney Green seems iffy.

As long as Hans was still in the locker, the move should stand.

 

[Goshawk]

Am I the only one getting the impression that Kumar is playing by the International Rules instead of Jakarta?

Rebel colonial throws...a baby stroller! Yes! And...I double!

I believe that's known as a Double Pram across the pond. I couldn't have done that if we were playing International.

Oh, sorry--Heathrow Terminal 4. NO rental car. I refuse to yield, being a rebel colonial and all.

 

[Kumar]

Sorry, K, didn't see you standing there. Now, what's the point of all this? I think I've lost track of the rules of your strand of this thread.

I feel this thread has become too long to read, understand & continue. So, I am just leaving. I can/may now discuss in other threads.

Thanks for the contributions & play which you enjoyed in science thread.

This thread CLOSED from my side. Bye here.