Qanon Conspiracy theories

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Bubba said:
How to know which of 'other sources' are opinion vs fact ?
How to know which can be known to be who they say they are?

Either of those two questions can be tricky.
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Neither question is tricky in any way.

Credible stories are confirmed by a minimum of three independent sources. If the reporter is lucky there are also official documents too.

Opinion is easy to spot even when presented in the body of a news story (and yes, even a good reporter can slant a news story).

Fox News does this all the time using these key phrases:

Experts tell us/Experts say

People say

Research shows

Survey's say

No source or names are ever cited, and these phrases are used to paint the story with false credibility.

This is different than slating a story. The best example I can think of came from a local newspaper back in the 1970's after another fire on Cannery Row where they quoted the usual fire department and police sorces, but also quoted a pair of "onlookers" who were watching the fire from down the block. These onlookers were local "business men", and they said things like "hate to see the old place go up like this", followed by "good thing nobody was hurt though". The fire wasn't out when they made their statement to the reporter, how would they know they building was empty? If you can read you know what the slant to this story is, and the newspaper and reporter are covered because they didn't come right out and point a finger.

The fire was arson, and nobody was ever arrested for it BTW.

Q followers seek so called "proofs" of Q authenticity, often around the letter Q being the 17th in the alphabet. Like 17 seconds between posts/tweets made by Q and Trump on a singe topic, sometimes matching words or a matching typo 17 seconds apart (a general example).
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Which is crap. We see this with every conspiracy theory from UFO's to the Illuminati.

Trump can't count to 17.

They measure Q authenticity in terms of how they can link Q to Trump since they believe Q either is;

* a person or a team working with Trump,

* or Trump himself (maybe with someone taking dictation?)
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Actually possible. Q is a moron.


Lets ask the (now troubled) google for a list of Q proofs:
Search term:
list "proofs" of Q authenticity.

Well my goodness...apparently that number 17 thing is just one of many other types of so called 'proofs'.
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You don't know how Google works.

Here are #1 and #2 search results...looks like a lot. I haven't read them.
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Of course you haven't read them. Why would a CTist read something before posting it here?
 
BStrong said:
The D5 is a reference to the mechanical device needed to move the pile of ******** this character has created.

I doubt the Commandante knows how to play checkers, let alone chess.
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as long as it's not a fifth installment of a mighty ducks movie.
 
Bubba, time to bust out your skeptic prowess and take it for a spin:

If Q's predictions continue to be inaccurate, why would the identity of Q matter?
 
Bubba said:
There are other definitions as well.


Whats your take on Q ?

Hoax?
Real?
Cannot know ?

Are there other possible answers in addition to those three ?
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Of course there are sort of other answers, in that Q could be partly true and partly false, which is a little different ontologically from the third option, though not practically. Or it could be false not from intentional hoaxing but through error and stupidity, which is a little different in some way from the options given but practically not.

But my take on Q is what I just said above: if (as you contend, in case you've forgotten doing it or decided to disavow it) you can't know, then it doesn't matter anyway. A prophecy you can't trust until it's too late is inherently worthless.
 
Bubba said:
Time will tell how “Explosive” this actually is.

Clinton Whistleblowers: Thursday’s Public Hearing to Reveal “Explosive” Information..,
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We’ll achieve peak Bubba when we get scolded for assuming that “Thursday” referred to this Thursday, or indeed even to a day of the week - any week - at all.
 
Qanon is so silly, it employs the world's dumbest (and most awkward) catchphrase:

"Where we go one, we go all."

Not only is it nonsensically stupid, the idiot authors couldn't be bothered to come up with something that at least would make a catchy acronym. To top it off, the moronic followers don't even realize the phrase makes them look like the sheep they think they are not. When Q tugs the rings in their noses, they heave to.
 
I am a reformed CTist, but I still allow myself a guilty pleasure.

Crazy Days & Nights:

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/

It is a cryptic Hollywood gossip site run by a Hollywood entertainment lawyer and his friends. How it works is they post between 12 and 15 Blind Items every day with five or six Blind Items Revealed.

A blind item from today is:


Blind Item #10
I'm not sure why you expected someone who is an admitted child molester to change. This former reality star all of you know and not on MTV was spending time with a young family member and was caught doing what he did before. Nothing will happen to him though. Just like nothing happened before.
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The commenters on this site are sharp.

A blind item revealed from today:

Blind Items Revealed #2
December 6, 2018

This former A+ list mostly movie actor is in even worse financial shape than previously imagined. He took out loans using what he thought would be the payment for the next installment of a franchise. When that fell through, the bank forced him to sell property and personal items to pay off the loan.

Johnny Depp
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The rules of this website are clear; some of the stuff they post is readily available on other Hollywood gossip sites, some of the stories are exclusive, and some of the posts are fiction.

The site is addictive because they reveal enough to keep you guessing about the some of the other stories they post. I allow myself to waste time on this site because it is harmless. Still, you can find Qanon dorks in the comments section every once in a while.

Anyway, this is how to run a CT website.
 
Imhotep said:
Bubba, time to bust out your skeptic prowess and take it for a spin:

If Q's predictions continue to be inaccurate, why would the identity of Q matter?
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It never did.

Its bigger than that.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
This isn't really a discussion anymore
Bubba isn't really arguing anything. He just posts QAnon links and quotes them at length. I didn't think it was possible to have content of lower quality than JAQing, but Bubba isn't even commenting on half the crap he posts. Probe too much into any one detail and he'll just disavow it as the source's stance and not his own. It's just a clearinghouse of Q conspiracy dispatches.
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I was thinking that as well. I hope you like the changes I made.


What Al Haig said.


What Malbec said.
 
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Bubba, you were honest enough to declare your motivation straightforwardly. But nobody believes you when you pretend you’re not supporting the claims themselves, just discussing them. Losing your temper won’t help you; we’ve seen this song and dance before, and you try the same routine every time.

No, you’re not just asking questions. Pretending otherwise won’t work. Losing your temper won’t work. Hamfisted attempts at mock humility won’t work. Playing the victim won’t work. You’re the one trying to spread this “Q” drivel here; just own up to it and move on.
 
Bubba said:
Time will tell how “Explosive” this actually is.


Clinton Whistleblowers: Thursday’s Public Hearing to Reveal “Explosive” Information
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Pretty exciting! We’ve learned that the Clintons - (squints) - sorry, that Ivanka Trump acted as middleman for funneling money from the inauguration fund into Trump properties, including nearly three-quarters of a million dollars for four days’ rental of a Trump hotel ballroom.

Good to know the Q crew is on that Clinton corruption!
 
Axxman300 said:
And yet you demand we lower our intellectual standards to meet your nonexistent rules of CT-Land. You post Qanon links and claims, and then make posts supporting them, and then claim you never posted such claims even after we re-quote your posts (this has happened at least three times). Instead of altering your approach you continue on the same failed path. Your compulsive hatred of the Clintons is not based on actual policy, but long debunked CT's. There is a long list of policies that I believe hurt the country, and my personal dislike for them is based on those policies.
Yet here you are suggesting that there should have been a military coup in 1999, and that any day now US Marshalls are going to slap the cuffs on Bill and Hillary.

Where are the indictments?
Where are the mass arrests?
Where is the change in Washington D.C.?

If you don't believe the Qanon tripe then why continue to post?



If you don't believe it then why read any of it?

And yes, you really should have read at least one of those links before posting.
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Although I said I did not read them, (I actually did, earlier), I scanned the headlines of all 'proofs' on that first link. Like I said I was already familiar with all of them from prior reading. So I did not need to read them completely. Sorry, shoulda explained.
 
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sts60 said:
Bubba, you’re not fooling anyone. At all. You’d get more respect if you simply owned your investment in “Q” claims, rather than this utterly transparent JAQing morality play of yours. Even the thread participants who are unfamiliar with your many previous iterations of the same script see through you.

I have to admit, though, your scolding of other people for their political biases is pretty funny. It’s not really a new plot element, of course, but it’s a nice variation on one of your favorite cliches.
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No....I'm not even trying to fool anyone regarding my stance. Maybe I overcompensate my stance, knowing that around here being on the fence is frowned on. After all, we need the other to say they believe *whatever* so we can feel righteous as we go on with our beloved public stonings.

Already stated my stance. On November 5th. Post 259, and probably since then.


In my book, saying I hope Q is for real qualifies as 'owning my investment'.

I've said so in various ways at other times since #259.

Sometimes I get the feeling some here are wired to not know it is possible to hope it is for real while knowing it might be a hoax. Like how that one dork seems driven to pretend that someone weighing a claim or referring to a claim is instead making the claim themself, just so dork can carry on with his childish smears and abusive insults. Needs to denigrate others. Neurological payoff.



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Bubba said:
Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post Paranoia is not the same as fact. Q is a fraud who is taking advantage of the feeble-minded. Has it ever crossed your mind Q is someone's college master thesis on internet gullibility?
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Sure, could be. I hope it is for real. We sorely need the swamp drained. You disagree ? There are millions of Americans who really like the idea of patriot brass backing Trump with their military intelligence system because they would be bound by duty to arrest Hillary if she won. That actually makes sense to those not in denial. Patriot brass surely would be fed up with the Clintons. More of the generals troops would die in bogus wars if she had things her way. Great screenplay, or great college master thesis. Time will tell
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